Baby help .. please
29 May 2009, 11:02 AM
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Best 50 quid we ever spent
Keira was 2 months prem but was really really good, she never even took to a dummy and was sleeping soundly after a few months at home.
No help but at least it makes me feel better!
Don;t forget to enjoy these times even with no sleep, before you know it they will be gone and you will be kicking yourself.
29 May 2009, 11:28 AM
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Best 50 quid we ever spent
Keira was 2 months prem but was really really good, she never even took to a dummy and was sleeping soundly after a few months at home.
No help but at least it makes me feel better!
Don;t forget to enjoy these times even with no sleep, before you know it they will be gone and you will be kicking yourself.
29 May 2009, 11:51 AM
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Pimmo from what you are saying you are doing everything right. At worst the wee one might have a mild tummy upset. Our lad has had a couple and produced a bit more sick than normal a couple of times.
He has boobie all day and then from about 4 months we introduced one bottle feed at night. That way he hasn't been confused at all between the two and we know he's gettign enough as he has the whole feed and you can see the amount he's getting. Usually drops off straight after feeding. We replace the bottle with his dummy.
Anyway, sounds like you are doing a cracking job so far. Remember plenty of burps and if needed some tasty Infracol and you'll be fine!
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He has boobie all day and then from about 4 months we introduced one bottle feed at night. That way he hasn't been confused at all between the two and we know he's gettign enough as he has the whole feed and you can see the amount he's getting. Usually drops off straight after feeding. We replace the bottle with his dummy.
Anyway, sounds like you are doing a cracking job so far. Remember plenty of burps and if needed some tasty Infracol and you'll be fine!
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29 May 2009, 08:26 PM
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My son was on Infacol for months in his little life, it id make a big difference, but he was fine without it until he started having bottles of formula when I stopped breastfeeding.
Maybe it was just down to the formula. The difference between the breast milk and formula milk, even is it does seem a small ammount can make a huge impact, and give them nasty tummy ache.
I agree with +Doc+ though. I think I said in one of my original posts that we had a swing for our daughter and it was a lifesaver. Especially at meal times. There was usually NOTHING wrong with her, she just expected to be picked up. The swing solved many a problem.
Maybe it was just down to the formula. The difference between the breast milk and formula milk, even is it does seem a small ammount can make a huge impact, and give them nasty tummy ache.
I agree with +Doc+ though. I think I said in one of my original posts that we had a swing for our daughter and it was a lifesaver. Especially at meal times. There was usually NOTHING wrong with her, she just expected to be picked up. The swing solved many a problem.
10 June 2009, 10:41 AM
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My son was on Infacol for months in his little life, it id make a big difference, but he was fine without it until he started having bottles of formula when I stopped breastfeeding.
Maybe it was just down to the formula. The difference between the breast milk and formula milk, even is it does seem a small ammount can make a huge impact, and give them nasty tummy ache.
I agree with +Doc+ though. I think I said in one of my original posts that we had a swing for our daughter and it was a lifesaver. Especially at meal times. There was usually NOTHING wrong with her, she just expected to be picked up. The swing solved many a problem.
Maybe it was just down to the formula. The difference between the breast milk and formula milk, even is it does seem a small ammount can make a huge impact, and give them nasty tummy ache.
I agree with +Doc+ though. I think I said in one of my original posts that we had a swing for our daughter and it was a lifesaver. Especially at meal times. There was usually NOTHING wrong with her, she just expected to be picked up. The swing solved many a problem.
Infacol has stopped the crying .. but now he wants to feed every hour .. he feeds for 15 minutes burps and then goes down, but is up again in a hour.. this is 24 hours a day and she is still breast feeding.
She expressed again and I gave him 100mls after he had a feed and he wasnt sick (used to be sick with a bottle) so maybe thats the way to go but come on child....you're killing us ..
24 October 2009, 10:53 AM
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I've just read this thread again cause our little one arrived 2 weeks ago and we're really struggling at night. From what I've read and what the MW has said, Oliver is suffering (quite badly!) with colic.
During the day he is generally fine. Only cries when he's hungry, feeds (breast) for anything between 10 mins to 30 mins then more or less goes straight back off to sleep.
In the evenings and at night however, he is competely different. Screams the house down wanting to feed, feeds for 10-15mins, possits a bit, we put him back in the Moses basket, 5 mins later, screaming like a banshee!
He actually sleeps ok, 3-4 hours but it's the length of time it takes to get him off to sleep between feeds at night which is killing us.
We double dose him on infacol now in the evening and night but I don't know if it's making any difference.
Looking at the feeding chart, he seems to like a feed around midnight, then he won't settle till 1:30-2am, then he'll sleep till 4:30-5, another hour and a half messing round then he'll sleep till 9am!!
So he's getting enough sleep but the stress on us when he's screaming is driving us to dispair!
He's putting on weight fine and filling his nappy regularly so we're pretty sure he's getting enough milk.
Mum doesn't want to give up on breast feeding and doesn't want him to have a dummy.
I know most parents go through the same thing but I do sometimes wonder why we just didn't get a dog instead!
Pimmo, if you read this, please let me know everything eases off after a little while.
As I type this, our 2 1/2 week old banshee is fast asleep ony lap after his 9:30am feed. No burping, no crying after the 10minute feed just straight off to sleep! Why can't it be like this at 4am!?!?!?
Matt
During the day he is generally fine. Only cries when he's hungry, feeds (breast) for anything between 10 mins to 30 mins then more or less goes straight back off to sleep.
In the evenings and at night however, he is competely different. Screams the house down wanting to feed, feeds for 10-15mins, possits a bit, we put him back in the Moses basket, 5 mins later, screaming like a banshee!
He actually sleeps ok, 3-4 hours but it's the length of time it takes to get him off to sleep between feeds at night which is killing us.
We double dose him on infacol now in the evening and night but I don't know if it's making any difference.
Looking at the feeding chart, he seems to like a feed around midnight, then he won't settle till 1:30-2am, then he'll sleep till 4:30-5, another hour and a half messing round then he'll sleep till 9am!!
So he's getting enough sleep but the stress on us when he's screaming is driving us to dispair!
He's putting on weight fine and filling his nappy regularly so we're pretty sure he's getting enough milk.
Mum doesn't want to give up on breast feeding and doesn't want him to have a dummy.
I know most parents go through the same thing but I do sometimes wonder why we just didn't get a dog instead!
Pimmo, if you read this, please let me know everything eases off after a little while.
As I type this, our 2 1/2 week old banshee is fast asleep ony lap after his 9:30am feed. No burping, no crying after the 10minute feed just straight off to sleep! Why can't it be like this at 4am!?!?!?
Matt
24 October 2009, 11:11 AM
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It happens ( dad of two 6 and 4 years old now). My first had similar problems ( I won't tell you for how long as you wouldn't like it, but it all passes in time)and all you can do is take turns grabbing sleep when you can. Mum can breast feed but can also express milk with a breast pump so that it can be kept in the fridge for you to give for one of the feeds. That way she can sleep through at least one of the feeds and you can sleep without guilt through another one. It also allows you to find out how much milk is being produced and whether it is front or back milk i.e. is the baby just hungry? Don't feel guilty about separate sleeping arrangements or sleeping in the middle of the day or whatevert or kipping down on a spare bed or couch - its all about survival at this stage.
If it is colic, the bad news is that it will last for 12 weeks, the good news is it is weirdly pretty much exactly 12 weeks and it will just stop. Learn to wind them properly.
My daughter had reflux so took an hour to feed ( with infant gaviscon mixed into breast milk in a bottle- happily would take breast or bottle so your other half shouldn't be worried about non breast feeding) and two hours to wind /get back to sleep after which she'd sleep for an hour or two and then off you go again. Once we learnt to really wind her properly, it became all about getting her back to sleep and often a quick cruise for 10 miles or so along a nearby dual carriageway in the scooby would knock her out.
It will pass just grit your teeth
If it is colic, the bad news is that it will last for 12 weeks, the good news is it is weirdly pretty much exactly 12 weeks and it will just stop. Learn to wind them properly.
My daughter had reflux so took an hour to feed ( with infant gaviscon mixed into breast milk in a bottle- happily would take breast or bottle so your other half shouldn't be worried about non breast feeding) and two hours to wind /get back to sleep after which she'd sleep for an hour or two and then off you go again. Once we learnt to really wind her properly, it became all about getting her back to sleep and often a quick cruise for 10 miles or so along a nearby dual carriageway in the scooby would knock her out.
It will pass just grit your teeth
24 October 2009, 11:36 AM
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I've just read this thread again cause our little one arrived 2 weeks ago and we're really struggling at night. From what I've read and what the MW has said, Oliver is suffering (quite badly!) with colic.
During the day he is generally fine. Only cries when he's hungry, feeds (breast) for anything between 10 mins to 30 mins then more or less goes straight back off to sleep.
In the evenings and at night however, he is competely different. Screams the house down wanting to feed, feeds for 10-15mins, possits a bit, we put him back in the Moses basket, 5 mins later, screaming like a banshee!
He actually sleeps ok, 3-4 hours but it's the length of time it takes to get him off to sleep between feeds at night which is killing us.
We double dose him on infacol now in the evening and night but I don't know if it's making any difference.
Looking at the feeding chart, he seems to like a feed around midnight, then he won't settle till 1:30-2am, then he'll sleep till 4:30-5, another hour and a half messing round then he'll sleep till 9am!!
So he's getting enough sleep but the stress on us when he's screaming is driving us to dispair!
He's putting on weight fine and filling his nappy regularly so we're pretty sure he's getting enough milk.
Mum doesn't want to give up on breast feeding and doesn't want him to have a dummy.
I know most parents go through the same thing but I do sometimes wonder why we just didn't get a dog instead!
Pimmo, if you read this, please let me know everything eases off after a little while.
As I type this, our 2 1/2 week old banshee is fast asleep ony lap after his 9:30am feed. No burping, no crying after the 10minute feed just straight off to sleep! Why can't it be like this at 4am!?!?!?
Matt
During the day he is generally fine. Only cries when he's hungry, feeds (breast) for anything between 10 mins to 30 mins then more or less goes straight back off to sleep.
In the evenings and at night however, he is competely different. Screams the house down wanting to feed, feeds for 10-15mins, possits a bit, we put him back in the Moses basket, 5 mins later, screaming like a banshee!
He actually sleeps ok, 3-4 hours but it's the length of time it takes to get him off to sleep between feeds at night which is killing us.
We double dose him on infacol now in the evening and night but I don't know if it's making any difference.
Looking at the feeding chart, he seems to like a feed around midnight, then he won't settle till 1:30-2am, then he'll sleep till 4:30-5, another hour and a half messing round then he'll sleep till 9am!!
So he's getting enough sleep but the stress on us when he's screaming is driving us to dispair!
He's putting on weight fine and filling his nappy regularly so we're pretty sure he's getting enough milk.
Mum doesn't want to give up on breast feeding and doesn't want him to have a dummy.
I know most parents go through the same thing but I do sometimes wonder why we just didn't get a dog instead!
Pimmo, if you read this, please let me know everything eases off after a little while.
As I type this, our 2 1/2 week old banshee is fast asleep ony lap after his 9:30am feed. No burping, no crying after the 10minute feed just straight off to sleep! Why can't it be like this at 4am!?!?!?
Matt
It does get better and very quickly ... you start to relax more and connect with the baby ..
Breast feeding is a nightmare at first .. once he catches on its a piece of **** and no effort ..
Bottles are an option but he can get nipple confusion .. I was lucky, when I went back to work my g/f agree I should sleep in another room .. whats the point in waking me for her to feed him ? I did all the work around the house and kept her fed .. she just fed him and slept.
If you bottle feed do it in shifts .. take turns ..
I know how you feel mate .. its really hard but I promise you in a month you'll look back and smile ...
24 October 2009, 11:41 AM
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ignore all the time frames people give you .. oh he'll feed for this long, oh he'll only slept all night after this many months .. its all crap ..
Every baby is different, they will sometimes sleep for an hour, sometimes 12 ..
One of the things that got to me was people saying on these sleepless nights last at least 3 months .. its rubbish .. they can do.. but if you learn quickly, burp the baby right and keep calm everything works out ..
PM me if you want none professional advice
Every baby is different, they will sometimes sleep for an hour, sometimes 12 ..
One of the things that got to me was people saying on these sleepless nights last at least 3 months .. its rubbish .. they can do.. but if you learn quickly, burp the baby right and keep calm everything works out ..
PM me if you want none professional advice
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24 October 2009, 12:08 PM
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Cheers guys. Pimmo I might take you up on that offer 
we're off round grandma's tomorrow for lunch, she's already been out and got two dummies (tommy tippee - good as nature?!) so I'm gonna sneak them back. I'm almost certain it'll stop the comfort 'feeds' and might get him off to sleep quicker. This is our first (and only!!!!) so it's all a learning curve. Burping him for instance, how hard to pat, how long without a burp do you do it till you give up? 5, 10, 20mins?!
I work from home so my hours are
pretty flexible, I really don't know how new dads cope with such little sleep and still get up and into work at 9!!
we're off round grandma's tomorrow for lunch, she's already been out and got two dummies (tommy tippee - good as nature?!) so I'm gonna sneak them back. I'm almost certain it'll stop the comfort 'feeds' and might get him off to sleep quicker. This is our first (and only!!!!) so it's all a learning curve. Burping him for instance, how hard to pat, how long without a burp do you do it till you give up? 5, 10, 20mins?!
I work from home so my hours are
pretty flexible, I really don't know how new dads cope with such little sleep and still get up and into work at 9!!
24 October 2009, 12:45 PM
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Neanderthal - sometimes burping can take an hour in bad cases. Don't give up until you get a rasper You'll soon learn the knack and so will baby after which you will both become a dab hands in the end at getting it up quickly.
Pimmo, you're aboslutely right evey baby's different, but breast feeding doesn't always work out. In fact, it quite often doesn't despite the mum's best intentions and efforts, so I wouldn't be so certain as it can be depressing for parents who it doesn't work for and who keep persevering to the mum and baby's distress - we have a couple of friends who's baby was eventually hospitalised because he just wasn't getting enough from mum and who flourished almost instantly on a bit of formula alongside what mum could..
Having said all that, the most important message is, if the professionals i.e. not SN types, have checked the baby out and they're Ok, then crying at this stage is either a need for food, sleep, a full nappy or wind/colic (they are two very different things- a bit of wind can be sorted - but nothing can be done for colic until the baby grows out of it - anyone who tells you different didn't have a baby with colic. Anyone who did have a baby with colic - you have my sympathy, but it will come to an end and will eventually become a distant memory, honestly)
You'll all be amazed at how little sleep you functioned on when you look back, although I wouldn't have wanted to be a lorry driver or summat at the time.
Now my two kids go to bed at 7pm and sleep through full on parties, fireworks, etc until 630 in the morning ( my boy) and 8 or so for my girl without a peep. It won't be long before they'll be coming in at 630 am so a whole other world of lost sleep for Mum and Dad to come.So basically it's about 25 years of lost sleep per child until you can boot them out
You'll soon learn the knack and so will baby after which you will both become a dab hands in the end at getting it up quickly.Pimmo, you're aboslutely right evey baby's different, but breast feeding doesn't always work out. In fact, it quite often doesn't despite the mum's best intentions and efforts, so I wouldn't be so certain as it can be depressing for parents who it doesn't work for and who keep persevering to the mum and baby's distress - we have a couple of friends who's baby was eventually hospitalised because he just wasn't getting enough from mum and who flourished almost instantly on a bit of formula alongside what mum could..
Having said all that, the most important message is, if the professionals i.e. not SN types, have checked the baby out and they're Ok, then crying at this stage is either a need for food, sleep, a full nappy or wind/colic (they are two very different things- a bit of wind can be sorted - but nothing can be done for colic until the baby grows out of it - anyone who tells you different didn't have a baby with colic. Anyone who did have a baby with colic - you have my sympathy, but it will come to an end and will eventually become a distant memory, honestly
)You'll all be amazed at how little sleep you functioned on when you look back, although I wouldn't have wanted to be a lorry driver or summat at the time.
Now my two kids go to bed at 7pm and sleep through full on parties, fireworks, etc until 630 in the morning ( my boy) and 8 or so for my girl without a peep. It won't be long before they'll be coming in at 630 am so a whole other world of lost sleep for Mum and Dad to come.So basically it's about 25 years of lost sleep per child until you can boot them out
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We found that Colief to be the very best colic relief.
Other than that - every baby is different. Neither of ours would take a bottle while breast feeding. You can feed then off a spoon if they do not.
Other than that - every baby is different. Neither of ours would take a bottle while breast feeding. You can feed then off a spoon if they do not.
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Gah we thought we were in for a good night.
He was asleep by midnight without too much grumbling.
But we've been up now since 3am (I've not changed the clocks yet!) everytime we try and put him in the Moses basket he lays there for a minute then starts kicking his legs around, waving his arms about and screaming.
Wife is getting upset, my nerves are shot to pieces. Just feel so helpless!
I've said to her to go into the spare room and get some sleep but she won't leave him in case he wants a feed (even though he's fed twice since 3am)
so I've come into the spare room cause I don't see why both of us need to be kept awake all night, but now I feel guilty cause I bet she's in there crying.
He was asleep by midnight without too much grumbling.
But we've been up now since 3am (I've not changed the clocks yet!) everytime we try and put him in the Moses basket he lays there for a minute then starts kicking his legs around, waving his arms about and screaming.
Wife is getting upset, my nerves are shot to pieces. Just feel so helpless!
I've said to her to go into the spare room and get some sleep but she won't leave him in case he wants a feed (even though he's fed twice since 3am)
so I've come into the spare room cause I don't see why both of us need to be kept awake all night, but now I feel guilty cause I bet she's in there crying.
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Ahhh!
Ours very nearly sleeps thru (from 7pm to 6am) but still likes to throw in the occasional '2:30am I'm awake and that's it' tantrum.
It does get better but there's no way on Gods earth I would ever go through it again!
Ours very nearly sleeps thru (from 7pm to 6am) but still likes to throw in the occasional '2:30am I'm awake and that's it' tantrum.
It does get better but there's no way on Gods earth I would ever go through it again!
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Wait until you have your next one 
We've just had our 3rd last Friday (my 4th) and looking at some of the posts here make me chuckle. I didn't do any where near enough with our first 2 so trying to make up for it this time round and so staying up until 2am doing the feeds and then getting up at 4am for the rest of the day is fun.
Bottle feeding is definitely the way to go after the hassle the first 2 caused with breast feeding. He is now taking 3oz every feed when initially he wouldn't feed at all and so can measure how much he has a day. Having sorted out the feeds gradually this week I managed sleep from 2 to 6.30 last night and the wife is getting loads of rest. Wouldn't be possible with breast feeding.
Having one to deal with is a doddle, the fun is when your others decide to get up when you are just trying to get to sleep having got the baby to sleep.
We've just had our 3rd last Friday (my 4th) and looking at some of the posts here make me chuckle. I didn't do any where near enough with our first 2 so trying to make up for it this time round and so staying up until 2am doing the feeds and then getting up at 4am for the rest of the day is fun.
Bottle feeding is definitely the way to go after the hassle the first 2 caused with breast feeding. He is now taking 3oz every feed when initially he wouldn't feed at all and so can measure how much he has a day. Having sorted out the feeds gradually this week I managed sleep from 2 to 6.30 last night and the wife is getting loads of rest. Wouldn't be possible with breast feeding.
Having one to deal with is a doddle, the fun is when your others decide to get up when you are just trying to get to sleep having got the baby to sleep.
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Hes been crying all day .. I suggested we give him a top up (to add to breast) but that was not a good idea .. so we called the Labour ward about 2 hours ago and they suggested a top up .. (now its a good idea)
So off to Tesco to get bottle, heater and cleaning thing ..
All done .. 30mls taken by crying machine.. winded.. lay down and crying again ..
Nappy clean .. I'm very tired and am getting frustrated .. I've left him with her and come on here... any advice? please
So off to Tesco to get bottle, heater and cleaning thing ..
All done .. 30mls taken by crying machine.. winded.. lay down and crying again ..
Nappy clean .. I'm very tired and am getting frustrated .. I've left him with her and come on here... any advice? please
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