The police's latest brainwave. Hats off to this one your muppets!
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I think its a bit of a retarded revamp of the old..."Living beyond your means."
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Anyway the Police fall at the first hurdle, because any criminal with an ounce of brain matter will own a sunbed shop or nail salon, the fact that nobody ever uses them is irrelevant, they still turn over 15grand a week.
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Sadly the public have lost faith in the Police (sorry Felix but its true). I'm not suggesting that this loss of faith is all the Polices fault. Many of the reasons are Government related, targets, paperwork, unrealistic speed limits etc etc.
The ones I spoke with last weekend were super guys and well aware of the bad public image that is engineered for them.
The ones I spoke with last weekend were super guys and well aware of the bad public image that is engineered for them.
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DEFEND YOUR PROPERTY ILE GIVE YOU A LAUGH on this one 4doors round the corner from me bloke comes home to find a ****** in his hallway . calls next door who are ex marines and captures the little peice of ****e . holds him down in hallway and phones plod // plod arrive 25minutes later at scene which is a 12-15 minute walk on foot from barnstaple police station .OUTSTANDING SERVICE JUST WHAT WE PAY COUNCIL TAX FOR this is true it was in our local paper oh and this was 5.30 at night not 3am. i expect our local plod were to busy on the a361 with the speed cameras catching people going home from work
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oh come on how stupid do you think the public are traffic know before they stop us . insurance database , dvla . this can all be done on the move whilst following the victim . if these checks were done i wouldnt have been stopped as i have insurance tax and mot oh and they would also of known that i am diabetic so therefore cant drink copious amounts of booze. they just stopped be because it was early hours and i drive a scoob
How does it know that the registration plate is not false
How does it know who the passengers are.
The computers won't say if you are diabetic. Besides it doesn't mean you won't have drank alcohol or taken drugs. I locked a lad up over the weekend who was diabetic and he was pi55ed as a newt
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Its busy all the time. And whats "sorry didnt realise our local station was part timers now" mean...?
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Felix, do your collegues and superiors know you post on this site?
Surely you know you shoundnt be mixing out of your circle.
Or have things changed now.
Surely you know you shoundnt be mixing out of your circle.
Or have things changed now.
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Sadly the public have lost faith in the Police (sorry Felix but its true). I'm not suggesting that this loss of faith is all the Polices fault. Many of the reasons are Government related, targets, paperwork, unrealistic speed limits etc etc.
The ones I spoke with last weekend were super guys and well aware of the bad public image that is engineered for them.
The ones I spoke with last weekend were super guys and well aware of the bad public image that is engineered for them.
The courts don't help either
It does need a total revamp of the punishment system and i am waiting with breath held for the next election.
All i can do is the best i can for people when i'm at work..
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Yet the town is 35,000 people with another of 12,000 5 miles away that they are supposed to cover and the population in the area is over 100,000 people. Nearest station at night with anything that looks remotely like a Bobby is Leicester and that 14 miles away.
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How does the computer know its you driving the car - could be anyone..!!!
How does it know that the registration plate is not false
How does it know who the passengers are.
The computers won't say if you are diabetic. Besides it doesn't mean you won't have drank alcohol or taken drugs. I locked a lad up over the weekend who was diabetic and he was pi55ed as a newt
How does it know that the registration plate is not false
How does it know who the passengers are.
The computers won't say if you are diabetic. Besides it doesn't mean you won't have drank alcohol or taken drugs. I locked a lad up over the weekend who was diabetic and he was pi55ed as a newt
2 you cant get a no plate made now without documents
3 no passengers
4 dvla know i am diabetic i have my licence renewed every 3years so its on the database
5 i wasnt weaving all over the road either
6 sorry wasnt having a go at you personally its just my perception after being stopped so many times for no real reason thats all . i was followed the other week for 9miles he kept his distance no doubt praying i would boot it . he eventually stopped me , his first words OH I SEE YOU HAVE YOUR CHILDREN IN THE CAR NOW I KNOW WHY YOU STUCK TO THE SPEED LIMIT whats that supposed to mean i ask . he replied oh nothing . another outstanding example of public relations
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See above, but this isnt down to the Bobby on the beat, its local and central government led. Put a few CCTV cameras up and we dont need to staff the station.
Just to show you what effect this reduction of policing has, my elderly aunt returned home to find her patio window lying in the garden, some ****** had nicked a spade out of next doors shed. Wedged it into the brick work and actually prised the whole window and frame from the wall, causing quite a bit of structural damage on the way. Several items were stolen, adding up to a tasty amount. This was in the middle of the day too. So when she call the local station they were too busy to come out, send any one out, gave her a crime number over the phone and suggested she drop a list of the stolen items in when she was in town next.
Not good service is it?
Just to show you what effect this reduction of policing has, my elderly aunt returned home to find her patio window lying in the garden, some ****** had nicked a spade out of next doors shed. Wedged it into the brick work and actually prised the whole window and frame from the wall, causing quite a bit of structural damage on the way. Several items were stolen, adding up to a tasty amount. This was in the middle of the day too. So when she call the local station they were too busy to come out, send any one out, gave her a crime number over the phone and suggested she drop a list of the stolen items in when she was in town next.
Not good service is it?
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See above, but this isnt down to the Bobby on the beat, its local and central government led. Put a few CCTV cameras up and we dont need to staff the station.
Just to show you what effect this reduction of policing has, my elderly aunt returned home to find her patio window lying in the garden, some ****** had nicked a spade out of next doors shed. Wedged it into the brick work and actually prised the whole window and frame from the wall, causing quite a bit of structural damage on the way. Several items were stolen, adding up to a tasty amount. This was in the middle of the day too. So when she call the local station they were too busy to come out, send any one out, gave her a crime number over the phone and suggested she drop a list of the stolen items in when she was in town next.
Not good service is it?
Just to show you what effect this reduction of policing has, my elderly aunt returned home to find her patio window lying in the garden, some ****** had nicked a spade out of next doors shed. Wedged it into the brick work and actually prised the whole window and frame from the wall, causing quite a bit of structural damage on the way. Several items were stolen, adding up to a tasty amount. This was in the middle of the day too. So when she call the local station they were too busy to come out, send any one out, gave her a crime number over the phone and suggested she drop a list of the stolen items in when she was in town next.
Not good service is it?
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1 car has alarm / immob and tracker , which would of been activated had it of been stolen and steering wheel is removed every night . so the car is ****** proof
2 you cant get a no plate made now without documents
3 no passengers
4 dvla know i am diabetic i have my licence renewed every 3years so its on the database
5 i wasnt weaving all over the road either
6 sorry wasnt having a go at you personally its just my perception after being stopped so many times for no real reason thats all . i was followed the other week for 9miles he kept his distance no doubt praying i would boot it . he eventually stopped me , his first words OH I SEE YOU HAVE YOUR CHILDREN IN THE CAR NOW I KNOW WHY YOU STUCK TO THE SPEED LIMIT whats that supposed to mean i ask . he replied oh nothing . another outstanding example of public relations![Applause](images/smilies/clap.gif)
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2 you cant get a no plate made now without documents
3 no passengers
4 dvla know i am diabetic i have my licence renewed every 3years so its on the database
5 i wasnt weaving all over the road either
6 sorry wasnt having a go at you personally its just my perception after being stopped so many times for no real reason thats all . i was followed the other week for 9miles he kept his distance no doubt praying i would boot it . he eventually stopped me , his first words OH I SEE YOU HAVE YOUR CHILDREN IN THE CAR NOW I KNOW WHY YOU STUCK TO THE SPEED LIMIT whats that supposed to mean i ask . he replied oh nothing . another outstanding example of public relations
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2) You can get them anywhere. internet - they often use black tape to change a charcater on the plate too
3) Granted, but they often lie on the back seats or hide in the boot if they are being ferried about.
4) Still doesn't mean you haven't drank alcohol
5) You don't need to be to be stopped..?
6) You talk to drivers and you can often smell the alcohol
We won't know who is behind the wheel unless we stop the car
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You've all missed the point on this one. ![Nono](images/smilies/nono.gif)
The police can keep a portion of the money under the Proceeds Of Crime Act, which is why you'll find that there is more and more emphasis on Money laundering type offenses in the coming months now that scameras are no longer profitable
It doesn't means it's a bad idea in general though, some pikey tw*t living on benefits and flashing more cash than he can rightfully afford about deserves to be caught and all his ill gotten gains swiftly removed
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The police can keep a portion of the money under the Proceeds Of Crime Act, which is why you'll find that there is more and more emphasis on Money laundering type offenses in the coming months now that scameras are no longer profitable
It doesn't means it's a bad idea in general though, some pikey tw*t living on benefits and flashing more cash than he can rightfully afford about deserves to be caught and all his ill gotten gains swiftly removed
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You've all missed the point on this one. ![Nono](images/smilies/nono.gif)
The police can keep a portion of the money under the Proceeds Of Crime Act, which is why you'll find that there is more and more emphasis on Money laundering type offenses in the coming months now that scameras are no longer profitable
It doesn't means it's a bad idea in general though, some pikey tw*t living on benefits and flashing more cash than he can rightfully afford about deserves to be caught and all his ill gotten gains swiftly removed![Thumb](images/smilies/thumb.gif)
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The police can keep a portion of the money under the Proceeds Of Crime Act, which is why you'll find that there is more and more emphasis on Money laundering type offenses in the coming months now that scameras are no longer profitable
It doesn't means it's a bad idea in general though, some pikey tw*t living on benefits and flashing more cash than he can rightfully afford about deserves to be caught and all his ill gotten gains swiftly removed
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Now you're getting along the right lines.
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Felix seriously, leave them too it, let them complain about the police not doing there job, let them shout about the police should be looking for people on the rob by having eyes in EVERY house in the UK. Infact why not join in...
Ok from now on in this post I will be like the majority.... I am PRO people on the rob, why should I report kids that are signing on and parking there range rover sports outside the job centre..... Yeah good for them...... they are only making a living.
ALL police are stupid... ALL police are lazy..... the ONLY crime that goes on is that the the BBC and the mail report, day to day the police have nothing to do... They just sit around laughing at people on SN.
The police must have asked there budget to be axed by millions across all forces... I am sure the keyboard heroes on here all deal with suicide, sudden deaths, fatal RTC's, rapes, domestic violence, ABH victims, GBH victims, death messages, sectioning people, being spat on, being hit, saving lives etc etc so they must know that if they can do it with an average on 14 officers covering a 50 mile radius in non city locations then the police can do it too.
Ok from now on in this post I will be like the majority.... I am PRO people on the rob, why should I report kids that are signing on and parking there range rover sports outside the job centre..... Yeah good for them...... they are only making a living.
ALL police are stupid... ALL police are lazy..... the ONLY crime that goes on is that the the BBC and the mail report, day to day the police have nothing to do... They just sit around laughing at people on SN.
The police must have asked there budget to be axed by millions across all forces... I am sure the keyboard heroes on here all deal with suicide, sudden deaths, fatal RTC's, rapes, domestic violence, ABH victims, GBH victims, death messages, sectioning people, being spat on, being hit, saving lives etc etc so they must know that if they can do it with an average on 14 officers covering a 50 mile radius in non city locations then the police can do it too.
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not long ago i was using a vectra for work ,one evening a local ****** decided it was ok to hoof a big dent in the wing, witnessed by my neighbour as this little ****e had been to her house causing grief. inform the police . the came fairly quickly i thought great .thats when it all went ****shaped.
police took statements from witnesses the next day was informed he was across the otherside of town apparently(alibi from family well known to police) .mention what had happen to a neighbour who works in the local shop no more than 400yrds away from the incident ,was informed that he had been in the shop maybe 5-10mins after the damage had happened cctv of him in the shop. informed the police of this . waited a few days rang police as to any outcome . was told the officer dealing was on another shift waited for her to call never happened even after umpteen calls no returned calls. seems to me that because it was nothing major it didn't matter.
p.s the ****** in question has been arrested for leaving the scene of accident .whilst driving with no insurance ,license or anything else . just hope the lady on the scotter he nearly killed comes through it ok. hopefully he will get few years in nick .
dont think there is a lot of faith in the law anymore .
police took statements from witnesses the next day was informed he was across the otherside of town apparently(alibi from family well known to police) .mention what had happen to a neighbour who works in the local shop no more than 400yrds away from the incident ,was informed that he had been in the shop maybe 5-10mins after the damage had happened cctv of him in the shop. informed the police of this . waited a few days rang police as to any outcome . was told the officer dealing was on another shift waited for her to call never happened even after umpteen calls no returned calls. seems to me that because it was nothing major it didn't matter.
p.s the ****** in question has been arrested for leaving the scene of accident .whilst driving with no insurance ,license or anything else . just hope the lady on the scotter he nearly killed comes through it ok. hopefully he will get few years in nick .
dont think there is a lot of faith in the law anymore .
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For this one the CCTV is not really relevant. It only puts him near the scene and not at it - besides if you have witnesses to the damage then that should be enough to arrest and charge.
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Timmy wrote:
I am sure the keyboard heroes on here all deal with suicide, sudden deaths, fatal RTC's, rapes, domestic violence, ABH victims, GBH victims, death messages, sectioning people, being spat on, being hit, saving lives etc etc...
I dont hear any firemen moaning about putting fires out.
I dont hear any funeral directors moaning about burying dead bodies.
I dont hear any tyre fitters moaning about fitting tyres.
Did you think when you chose your career that it would be all about BurgerKing/giving directions/rolling a trouser leg up and telling people the time?
PS: Not all Police are lazy, workshy, blinkered idiots, some are actually doing the job of Policing as intended.
I am sure the keyboard heroes on here all deal with suicide, sudden deaths, fatal RTC's, rapes, domestic violence, ABH victims, GBH victims, death messages, sectioning people, being spat on, being hit, saving lives etc etc...
I dont hear any firemen moaning about putting fires out.
I dont hear any funeral directors moaning about burying dead bodies.
I dont hear any tyre fitters moaning about fitting tyres.
Did you think when you chose your career that it would be all about BurgerKing/giving directions/rolling a trouser leg up and telling people the time?
PS: Not all Police are lazy, workshy, blinkered idiots, some are actually doing the job of Policing as intended.
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But it doesn't prove he's committed the crime.
Besides - i'm saying that it will not be needed if you have more than one witnesses who puts him at the scene causing the damage.
So whats the missed point then....?
Besides - i'm saying that it will not be needed if you have more than one witnesses who puts him at the scene causing the damage.
So whats the missed point then....?
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That's my point exactly.
Even though the ****** was clearly lying about his alibi nothing further is done.
What should happen is that action should be taken with those that have given this false ali bi as it can be definitively proven it was false by said CCTV footage and of course the intial crime more heavily investigated.
Crime is escalating in the country because the police can only be arsed to pursue the cast iron cases or anything that involves profit. By that I don't mean serious crimes but petty crimes such as the one above. The lack of willing to tackle these everyday crimes and the dreadful attitudes of the majority of todays police men and women is why the police are not liked by the public in general.
I've said before on other topics that if the balance was the other way round i.e most of the police force were polite, courteous and respectful rather than rude brash arrogant.
Then public opinion will improve.
My last encounter was a prime example. late at night in the **** end of nowhere I went out for a bit of spirited drive. I ended up getting stopped in a country line miles from anywhere. The officers first words to me were "who the f*ck do you think you are you f*cking ar*e hole Lewis Hamilton?" Why are you driving like a c*nt?
Which was complete rubbish I was doing about 70 on a national speed limit.
Fair enough I was speeding and I had broken the law, I hardly warranted being spoken to like that.
I made him know that I had made a note of his collar number. He then said it's a good job he has to be back at the station blah blah blah, otherwise he'd have thrown the book at me. He just gave me a bollocking (which I deserved) so I decided not to make an issue of how he spoke to me.
There are far too many w*nkers like that in the Police these days.
It's ***** like him that need to go otherwise the police will always have a dreadful reputation.
Even though the ****** was clearly lying about his alibi nothing further is done.
What should happen is that action should be taken with those that have given this false ali bi as it can be definitively proven it was false by said CCTV footage and of course the intial crime more heavily investigated.
Crime is escalating in the country because the police can only be arsed to pursue the cast iron cases or anything that involves profit. By that I don't mean serious crimes but petty crimes such as the one above. The lack of willing to tackle these everyday crimes and the dreadful attitudes of the majority of todays police men and women is why the police are not liked by the public in general.
I've said before on other topics that if the balance was the other way round i.e most of the police force were polite, courteous and respectful rather than rude brash arrogant.
Then public opinion will improve.
My last encounter was a prime example. late at night in the **** end of nowhere I went out for a bit of spirited drive. I ended up getting stopped in a country line miles from anywhere. The officers first words to me were "who the f*ck do you think you are you f*cking ar*e hole Lewis Hamilton?" Why are you driving like a c*nt?
Which was complete rubbish I was doing about 70 on a national speed limit.
Fair enough I was speeding and I had broken the law, I hardly warranted being spoken to like that.
I made him know that I had made a note of his collar number. He then said it's a good job he has to be back at the station blah blah blah, otherwise he'd have thrown the book at me. He just gave me a bollocking (which I deserved) so I decided not to make an issue of how he spoke to me.
There are far too many w*nkers like that in the Police these days.
It's ***** like him that need to go otherwise the police will always have a dreadful reputation.
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OK. It can be proven he was lying about his alabi - but it doesn't prove he was responsible for the damage. Besides I thought it was only his family who said he was the other end of town. He might say something totaly different.
How do you know he has not been arrested in any case for it - if there is more than one witness who can name him or at least ID him - he's goosed.
Your example of when you were stopped is clearly wrong and i would never speak to anyone like this - nor would anyone i know. It appears you were stopped by and **** who should be kicked out of the job.
I tackle all the cases i have to the Nth degree and take them as far as i can (thats what i get paid for) whether i can get a postive outcome for the victim though is sometimes not possible
How do you know he has not been arrested in any case for it - if there is more than one witness who can name him or at least ID him - he's goosed.
Your example of when you were stopped is clearly wrong and i would never speak to anyone like this - nor would anyone i know. It appears you were stopped by and **** who should be kicked out of the job.
I tackle all the cases i have to the Nth degree and take them as far as i can (thats what i get paid for) whether i can get a postive outcome for the victim though is sometimes not possible