97 Scooby mapping why so much money
#31
Where did I say I could supply MY97/98 Impreza ECU's? I didn't - so your request for stock is a bit odd
#33
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Where did I say I could supply MY97/98 Impreza ECU's? I didn't - so your request for stock is a bit odd [/QUOTE]
you made it sound so easy that anyone working in electronics should be able to do it.
although parts are cheap to source you have to keep in mind labour to fit them all together, premisis, business rates, staff and most important testing and cost of certification for ce marking etc.
the same can be said for many things in the market place take a look at mobile phones and computers.
my comment was not to be offensive just to show things ar'nt just about parts, it's all the commercial's that go with them.
you made it sound so easy that anyone working in electronics should be able to do it.
although parts are cheap to source you have to keep in mind labour to fit them all together, premisis, business rates, staff and most important testing and cost of certification for ce marking etc.
the same can be said for many things in the market place take a look at mobile phones and computers.
my comment was not to be offensive just to show things ar'nt just about parts, it's all the commercial's that go with them.
#34
Your point would hold water ...... if all ECU's were the same price to buy ....... they are not, despite being pretty much the same costs to make.
My point being that we are charged a price the market will bear, a 'percieved value' ..... call a ECU a 'RallyX Super Charged Mapped Power ECU' and you can charge £££££££'s more - see what I'm getting at?
My point being that we are charged a price the market will bear, a 'percieved value' ..... call a ECU a 'RallyX Super Charged Mapped Power ECU' and you can charge £££££££'s more - see what I'm getting at?
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FWIW a new blank original ECU (unprogrammed) for a Vauxhall Astra Diesel is about £435+vat fitment and programming (about £65+vat )
So, for the consumer thats about £575 all in to sort out a standard run of the mill Astra diesel
So, for the consumer thats about £575 all in to sort out a standard run of the mill Astra diesel
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I think I see what Pete's getting at.
However, the manufacturing cost of the ecu does not bear any reflection on its retail value mainly because of the time and cost taken to write the original program.
I use to work in the computer manufacturing industry. We use to buy in eeproms at £4 each bulk buy. After being on the burner for a couple of minutes the programmed chip was then sold £120.
I don't know how the car ecu mappers work, but I would imagine they'd start off with a base map from the original ecu, and then use mapping software (which they probably paid a lot of money for, plus the license to use it) to tweak the program.
However, the manufacturing cost of the ecu does not bear any reflection on its retail value mainly because of the time and cost taken to write the original program.
I use to work in the computer manufacturing industry. We use to buy in eeproms at £4 each bulk buy. After being on the burner for a couple of minutes the programmed chip was then sold £120.
I don't know how the car ecu mappers work, but I would imagine they'd start off with a base map from the original ecu, and then use mapping software (which they probably paid a lot of money for, plus the license to use it) to tweak the program.
#38
#39
You know the little kid at your school who couldn't do his adding up? ... that's DazW ......
Lets say I was 72 in 2000 ... that would make me 81 next Monday ... we don't just stop living at 79, you know? So, what's your point? and do you not think you are taking life a tad serious?
#40
But, in 6 years time that same ECU - maybe off a scrapped Astra will be far less than one taken from a 6 year old Impreza .... it's that 'perceived value' I am trying to explain and what it costs.
#41
You know the little kid at your school who couldn't do his adding up? ... that's DazW ......
Lets say I was 72 in 2000 ... that would make me 81 next Monday ... we don't just stop living at 79, you know? So, what's your point? and do you not think you are taking life a tad serious?
Lets say I was 72 in 2000 ... that would make me 81 next Monday ... we don't just stop living at 79, you know? So, what's your point? and do you not think you are taking life a tad serious?
But if we were to do some Math & you were indeed 81 next Monday ...this would give us your birth date as 19/06/1928
Luckily for us/me SN still has a search facility
https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...by-driver.html
but post #25 (dated 08/10/01) has you stating your age as 72 ...when (if we're using your own stated d.o.b above) you should have been 73?
As to my point? ...just letting the newbies know what you're about Pete, that's all
#42
Quite amazingly, you have also let everyone else know what you are about .... did you really spend all that time researching, calculating and posting?
I haven't read the threads from 2001 .... can't be 4rsed in all honesty.
I haven't read the threads from 2001 .... can't be 4rsed in all honesty.
#44
& even I, with my low level of math can work out a d.o.b
lol even my grandad who had senile dementia could reel off his own age until the day he popped his cloggs ffs!
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