SunnySideUp

Read my lips, I don't care one jot whether you believe it or not ......

SunnySideUp

That's EXACTLY what I'm saying ...................

Torquemada

So, the point of this thread was?

If we knew the facts then your thread would make some sense but it's just a load of waffle without being able to qualify what you're saying. There is no way of us giving objective opinions without some facts and therefore it seems there is no point in you posting the thread in the first place really

Given me a laugh anyway

Dedrater

I do not understand why you are puzzled, there is a real reason why I need to find out a Union has declined 6% per ra and the absolute fact this does not exist, fabrication ect ect

You mentioned the word Suspicious, I hope this was irony, we hope to see you at an event this year, (in Person)

Please Come Pete

SunnySideUp

1. Who is 'we'

and

2. What do you propose to achieve?

Torquemada

Just guessing but 'we' is probably the forum readers/posters

and the achievment is being able to understand what the unions motives were behind their actions, rather than just reading your opion. Three sides to a story and all that.
What's wrong with us being able to find out which union may not have their 'finger on the pulse'?

SunnySideUp

You may find this hard to believe, but most people on here do not have your obvious burning desire to meet me ...... in fact, they don't really care!

The motives behind the Unions actions are, as I have stated and will repeat for your benefit:- the pay offer is ranged from 0% for poor performers to 6% for the top performers. The Unions want an across the board rise - that's why they are against it.

Happy now?

Dedrater

To meet you, my job at the minute is so boring, my main objective is to meet you., PM me for mob number and address, you can come to my house?

SunnySideUp

You're not gay, are you?

Dedrater

I am less than happy, this is fabrication, this is made up in your head.

Pete, jesus wept, WHAT UNION

Torquemada

That's typical of some union members reactions to union decisions, over-simplified and manipulated to meet their own demands of whatever argument they may be trying to uphold at the time, although you have said you have been fortunate in this instance, so your point is not really obvious, unless it is to say "ooh, look at mee, I did my job and therefore I am getting a payrise when many others may not be, ner ner".
Knowing who the union/employer was would definitely shed light on many of the reasons for the outcome and give some weight to your statements.

It's gonna be a case of you saying "why so interested, believe me with no question" and us retorting " why the problem with telling us who the union is?" in circles, isn't it?

Bubba po

Yes, which union is it?

SunnySideUp

Bored now ..... you both spin around if you want to

Dedrater

Sexuality? Points still stands.

SunnySideUp

Goodnight Ladies

Bubba po

You need to put your money where your not-insubstantial gob is.

Torquemada

Is that your way of saying "I give up and have no further way of arguing my points due to lack of evidence"?
Oh, probably not, we're just not worthy of your time

Well, at least you are consistent

Dedrater

We should do what ns04 said though, a Troll will always beat us, it is so ****ing frustrating, least we know where we stand, Torque, Bubba et al.... thumbs!!

Torquemada

Indeedy! it's more like he escaped, than us being beaten, though

Funny old world

Bubba po

Not always true; one of Pete's most durable fictions was his 40 mpg impreza, which he claimed was so economical because he only drove short journeys. As we all know, short journeys are death to Subaru fuel economy because of the incredibly rich warm-up cycle. He tried to wriggle out of it by claiming he believed that the Scooby's tank was only 50l capacity.

EPIC fail, and card marked forever.

marcie

We have been told that we wont be getting any payrises for next 12mths at our place. Not in the position of having to take cuts yet though thankfully.

Torquemada

Yeah, lots of pay freezes being negotiated right now, average percentage of pay rise bargains has defintely dropped due to the obvious. Not the greatest of times.

On SSU's thing, I'm wondering if he's saying that this is more to do with a performance based system that's being introduced over time, rather than just a case of the unions turning down a performance based pay increase (that would take some time to sort out anyway)?
Sounds like the representation/member no. wasn't great enough to be able to secure an all round flat rate pay rise in the first place or there may have been a ballot in which the members decided that they would prefer to go with the performance based system rather than flat rate.
More to it in any case. Still shows his posts as waffle imho

Seems that alot of unions are trying to halt any reductions in pay that the moment but there is such a variation in the industries covered by unions that there is no way you can really group their intentions/goals together absolutely.

Ian

iTrader: (10)

payrise, what is one of them?? havent had one for welll over a year now

AllanB

For anybody to get a pay rise funded by public money is disgusting whilst the private sector takes pay cuts and redundancies.

I'd rather have less money than no money at all


AllanB

Leslie

I'll give you a clue, its to do with lots of sunshine!

Les

Flaps

iTrader: (1)

I felt the same when he made a claim about his tyres. Claimed to get them at a ridiculously low price but couldn't provide any evidence for the benefit of others who could then save some cash.

chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

What, so we couldn't 'dip our bread' whilst buying engine oil from Lidl

SunnySideUp

You're all not still talking about me, are you? Shucks ....

I must admit to feeling a bit embarrassed - you lot remember everything about me and what I have said - I, on the other hand, cannot recall a single thing of note from you .... my fault, I guess I'm just too busy getting on with things. I do apologise most sincerely.

Flaps

iTrader: (1)

Pull the other one! If you add up all the accounts you've got I bet you've spent more time on here than anyone!

Torquemada

Comedy