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Old 30 June 2009, 09:22 AM
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Mike I'm sorry I don't agree, The lad told his dad what happened and if this woman was blocking the pavement then in my book tough, the lad is too young to ride on the road, and was grown up enough to tell his dad he did it, I mean how many of us would have done that? Their are too many Mums out there that block the pavements in my opinion with their cars I see it all the time I only live around the corner from a primary school and come kicking out time you cannot bloody move for cars on pavements, my arguement is did the lad do it on purpose? NO, If she was blocking the pavement then sorry read the highway code and I'll think you will find she was the one breaking the law.
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Old 30 June 2009, 09:57 AM
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OP already said the car was parked on the road, and the door was open onto the pavement - his lad tried to squeeze past, but there wasn't enough room.

Or would you suggest the woman ( who I assume was loading or unloading kids ) should open her door into the middle of the road to let the kids in and out ?

Obviously with hindsight, he could have stopped riding and waited until there was room to pass, or got off the bike and pushed it - but being a young kid you cant expect him to think of this in advance.

I also hate the sort of school run mums who either park their range rovers half on the pavement, or 3 feet away from the kerb, but it doesn't mean it is always their fault.

Of course the other argument is that if he isn't old enough to ride on the road, which is where bikes should legally be - not on the pavement which is ONLY for pedestrians - and isn't being supervised by an adult, then he shouldn't be riding to school in the first place.

I can see there are two sides to the story, but I think in this case NOT offering to pay would be pretty tight when coughing up would be the right thing to do.

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Old 30 June 2009, 10:09 AM
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what is wrong with people?

Yes, she had door open.....women do stupid stuff....

He's tried going past and done whatever (in my book kids thesedays are short of common sense)

Its his fault...he should have waited or asked her to close the door...not tried going past...I get kids doing this going past my work van, you'd be suprised what gap the little simpletons try to get through.

Hats off to him for admitting it, but You should be dishing out a bollockign and then trying to come to some sort of arrangement over the door.

People who are saying "she shouldn't have had her door open" - how does anyone know she was strapping her kid in, or putting something in the car? Kids thesedays are thick as they come in all honesty and can't wait 5 seconds - you don't expect some kid on a bike trying to ease through a 5mm gap do you?
Old 30 June 2009, 12:37 PM
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You should pay as its your kid!

This has happened to me and 2 of my mates, and were sick of paying to have our pride and joys fixed cos some snot nosed 10 year old cant ride a bike properly, my mate with a clio 182 had to claim on his insurance for a rear quarter that cost nearly 2 grand to fix!


Why should people lose no claims or pay for damage cos of SOMEONE ELSES kid?


Do the decent thing and get your wallet out and pay for the damage your kid caused, then teach him to ride a bike properly (i.e stop and dismount for small gaps, not charge through).


Your lucky he hit a womens car, as most blokes i know would have frog marched him home to daddy then frog marched daddy to the cash point!


Another example of why cyclists of any age should have some sort of registration, so things like this can be followed up easily, cos the person who looses out 99 percent of the time is the car owner, not the cyclist!
Old 30 June 2009, 01:48 PM
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Loving the moralizing of these keyboard warriors.

Quiet simply claim off the public liability section on your home contents insurance.

Pass the women your home insurance policy details and let the insurance company's sort it out.
Old 30 June 2009, 02:04 PM
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OP: Son I hope that you have learned a valuable lesson from this.
Son: Yes dad next time I'll keep riding no matter what and if the rozzers box me in I'll come out shooting.
Old 30 June 2009, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wilkoca
Loving the moralizing of these keyboard warriors.

Quiet simply claim off the public liability section on your home contents insurance.

Pass the women your home insurance policy details and let the insurance company's sort it out.
Thanks for that I never really thought of that !
I will see what happens when I pick my boys up from school later, I hope she dosnt go over the top, I have a short fuse and don't want to get in an argument over this.
I know its his fought but there is a little bit of desecration because of her door blocking the pavement. Even so it looks like I might have to go down his piggy bank.
Old 30 June 2009, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by thesyn
OP: Son I hope that you have learned a valuable lesson from this.
Son: Yes dad next time I'll keep riding no matter what and if the rozzers box me in I'll come out shooting.
Old 30 June 2009, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoob99
Mike I'm sorry I don't agree, The lad told his dad what happened and if this woman was blocking the pavement then in my book tough, the lad is too young to ride on the road, and was grown up enough to tell his dad he did it, I mean how many of us would have done that? Their are too many Mums out there that block the pavements in my opinion with their cars I see it all the time I only live around the corner from a primary school and come kicking out time you cannot bloody move for cars on pavements, my arguement is did the lad do it on purpose? NO, If she was blocking the pavement then sorry read the highway code and I'll think you will find she was the one breaking the law.
Cheers
Colin
Is this true can anybody find the quote about blocking the pavement
Old 30 June 2009, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by greatgonzo
Is this true can anybody find the quote about blocking the pavement
Stop trying to dodge responsibility, it was your son's fault so pay for the damage. Simple as that!

How would you like it if someones son did that to your car and the parent was looking for excuses not to pay.
Old 30 June 2009, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by greatgonzo
Thanks for that I never really thought of that !
I will see what happens when I pick my boys up from school later, I hope she dosnt go over the top, I have a short fuse and don't want to get in an argument over this.
I know its his fought but there is a little bit of desecration because of her door blocking the pavement. Even so it looks like I might have to go down his piggy bank.

Personally i would'nt enter a discussion with her just pass her the details the insurers will argue your side for you.
If you put the ball back in her court and she has to get estimates ect 9 out of 10 time they dont bother and no claim is made.

If she does claim your premium may rise a little - but nothing compare to the cost of a respray.

I speak from experience mate
Old 30 June 2009, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by wilkoca
Personally i would'nt enter a discussion with her just pass her the details the insurers will argue your side for you.
If you put the ball back in her court and she has to get estimates ect 9 out of 10 time they dont bother and no claim is made.

If she does claim your premium may rise a little - but nothing compare to the cost of a respray.

I speak from experience mate
Good advice mate that's what im going to do
Old 30 June 2009, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mamoon2
Stop trying to dodge responsibility, it was your son's fault so pay for the damage. Simple as that!

How would you like it if someones son did that to your car and the parent was looking for excuses not to pay.
Look I am not trying to dodge anything, I was looking for the facts.
I have already mentioned that it looks like I will be paying for it one way or another, i.e insurance.
Old 30 June 2009, 03:21 PM
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As far as I know, it is against the law to ride on the pavement. It is dangerous for pedestrians of course, particularly elderly and/or disabled ones.

If the road is too dangerous for your son the ride on then he should push his bike until he gets to a safer place. I can understand why you are concerned about him riding on a busy road, but I still dont think that excuses him to ride on the pavement.

I would say that if you have parked by the roadside, it is difficult to open the door without it being across part of the pavement. Surely she can't be expected to park so far from the kerb that it doesn't.

I think that it can't be denied that your boy was at fault, rather than trying to squeeze through he could have just stopped couldn't he?

I think its only fair that you either offer compensation to the woman, or at the very least get your son to apologise to her.

Les
Old 30 June 2009, 03:25 PM
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Some fooking stupid views on here. At least the little blighter was out on his bike rather than playing computer games or getting mum to pick him up in the chelsea tractor.
Annoying for the OP, annoying for the woman who's door it was. At ten Kids are learning. I'm sure next time He will take more care, don't be too hard on the lad! Hope it gets sorted ammicably.
Old 30 June 2009, 03:27 PM
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He has already apologised to her when the accident happened, he was quite upset at the time and had banged his knee.
Old 30 June 2009, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mamoon2
Stop trying to dodge responsibility, it was your son's fault so pay for the damage. Simple as that!

How would you like it if someones son did that to your car and the parent was looking for excuses not to pay.
Too much heat in this discussion for what was a minor clip/knock.

Find out if your home insurance will cover the situation fully or try to come to an arrangement with the other party.

If you can come to an amicable agreement then it ends for the best. If not, 10 years old isn't old enough to be legally responsible and you can argue that you were not responsible as he is the school's responsibility until he gets home.

J.
Old 30 June 2009, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by greatgonzo
He has already apologised to her when the accident happened, he was quite upset at the time and had banged his knee.
Thats the right start then-good lad.

Les
Old 30 June 2009, 04:18 PM
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Bless him, it's an accident, they happen. He will think differently next time, but let's hope it doesn't put him off riding his bike.

I agree with some on here about riding on the pavement, it is the safest place to be, and as long as you teach children to be responsible when it comes to pedestrians, we should be OK, no need for lynching!

I never let my daughter (also 10) ride on the road, not since she fell off her bike in the middle of the road and nearly got squashed!
Old 30 June 2009, 05:25 PM
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A banged knee??i'd sue for personal injury to your lad


IT WAS A JOKE BEFORE ANYWAY LEAPS ON ME!!
Old 30 June 2009, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by charlieogden
The thing with not being 'allowed' to cycle on the pavement, is that and human on a bike hitting another human(walking) at worst there maybe a broken leg.
There are examples of fatalities because of bikes on pavements...

...common sense should be appled.

In this case the incident was caused by one thing only, a 10 year old being impatient. He could have waited for the car to close it's door.
Old 30 June 2009, 05:43 PM
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Some of the opinions on this thread...f*cking hell, no wonder the country is going backwards with all these do gooders about.

Accidents happen. It surely can't be that much damage? Just make sure you give him a good telling off so he knows he needs to pay more attention from now on. And obviously you should really pay for the damage...
Old 30 June 2009, 06:15 PM
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You can tell who has and hasnt got kids on this thread.
The mother should just forget about it, accidents happen, no need to give the kid a bollocking hes hurt his knee and im sure he didnt do it intentionally.
No matter how much i like my car if a kid went in to me id be more concerned about their injury than the damage to my car.
It may be illegal to ride on the pavement but id rather my child be on the pavement and in court than on the road and in hospital.
More accidents are caused by mad mothers on school runs than kids cycling to and from school.
Old 30 June 2009, 06:26 PM
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UPDATE
My wife has spoken to the owner of the car and everything seems to be ok apparently she has some bruising when the door hit her and she was in a bit of shock when it happened which seems funny because she says that there is only a small scratch which might come out with T cut !!!
Old 30 June 2009, 06:41 PM
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Don't they all !

Nice result !

dunx


P.S. LOL "he is the school's responsibility until he gets home. At 16 years of age....." LOLOLOL
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Originally Posted by greatgonzo
UPDATE
My wife has spoken to the owner of the car and everything seems to be ok apparently she has some bruising when the door hit her and she was in a bit of shock when it happened which seems funny because she says that there is only a small scratch which might come out with T cut !!!
So the truth will out.
The door hit her, so by the old process of elimination, she opened the door blocking his path and the door closed on her......

Typical,
Tell her to p*ss off and she is lucky you don't smack her in the mouth for hurting your boy....
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