Have you ever bought anything from the "affordable" end of a premium brands range...
02 July 2009, 08:16 AM
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I was dragged round the electrical store in search of a new washing machine as the old Slovenian manufactured Gorenje is about to throw a bearing (sounds like a high speed train ) and I can't source replacement parts:
Amongst a huge line up, we were faced with several brands that appealed to us:
Bosch
Siemens
Balay (who? Spanish brand)
about €30-50 between each model of the same spec.
Guess what? All three machines were actually the very same machine, barring the badge and visual controls: same drum, same door, same drawer, same pump acess cover. And no doubt the same motor and electronics underneath. Yet one carries a €50 excess due to its badge (Bosch, incase you didn't guess ).
Amongst a huge line up, we were faced with several brands that appealed to us:
Bosch
Siemens
Balay (who? Spanish brand)
about €30-50 between each model of the same spec.
Guess what? All three machines were actually the very same machine, barring the badge and visual controls: same drum, same door, same drawer, same pump acess cover. And no doubt the same motor and electronics underneath. Yet one carries a €50 excess due to its badge (Bosch, incase you didn't guess ).
02 July 2009, 08:41 AM
#62
Top of the range Bosch would be BMW M3
Bottom of the range Bosch is a 318
Just it happens that the 318 also shares the same engine, suspension and chassis with a much cheaper Ford Focus, meaning one is just paying for the premium brand badge.
(Theoretical example, before anyone starts. Maybe using VAG's platform sharing would have been a better example
).
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02 July 2009, 10:20 AM
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not quite, imo, Miele is akin to what Merc were in the 80's and 90's built by engineers not by accountants
the basic Miele model is like buying the old Merc 190 (beloved of Taxi driver's throughout Africa)
because the 190 was designed and built by the same people who built the S Class mercs of the day --- it got the same paint process the same antirust and the same engineering integrity
and thats why its still used as a workhourse throughout the developing world (190 that is not a miele washing machine)
the basic Miele model is like buying the old Merc 190 (beloved of Taxi driver's throughout Africa)
because the 190 was designed and built by the same people who built the S Class mercs of the day --- it got the same paint process the same antirust and the same engineering integrity
and thats why its still used as a workhourse throughout the developing world (190 that is not a miele washing machine)
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02 July 2009, 10:59 AM
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I bought a Honda Civic ESi as my 2nd car, it was the model under the "top spec" UK VTi model. I much prefered it to be honest, it had 30bhp less but the SOHC D-Series VTEC engine weighed substantially less than the DOHC B-Series VTEC engine and VTEC engaged at 4k rather than the VTi's 5.5k, it used to poop on my friends VTi 
. If I could afford two cars, i'd definitely have another, in 139k only the original radiator broke.
. If I could afford two cars, i'd definitely have another, in 139k only the original radiator broke.
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02 July 2009, 12:42 PM
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I currently drive a MG ZT 120, bought it 2 1/2 years ago so MG Rover was gone before I even bought it, it's the smallest engine but I like driving it, it's never let me down (touch wood) and at the time I needed an economical car as I was buying my first house.
Pretty much bottom of the range as ZT's go but I still love the look of it.
Pretty much bottom of the range as ZT's go but I still love the look of it.
02 July 2009, 12:46 PM
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not quite, imo, Miele is akin to what Merc were in the 80's and 90's built by engineers not by accountants
the basic Miele model is like buying the old Merc 190 (beloved of Taxi driver's throughout Africa)
because the 190 was designed and built by the same people who built the S Class mercs of the day --- it got the same paint process the same antirust and the same engineering integrity
and thats why its still used as a workhourse throughout the developing world (190 that is not a miele washing machine)
the basic Miele model is like buying the old Merc 190 (beloved of Taxi driver's throughout Africa)
because the 190 was designed and built by the same people who built the S Class mercs of the day --- it got the same paint process the same antirust and the same engineering integrity
and thats why its still used as a workhourse throughout the developing world (190 that is not a miele washing machine)
02 July 2009, 01:21 PM
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SEBO vacuum cleaners regularly come top
when tested against other well known brands.
› Here are a few of the media acolades:GMTV – 10 out of 10
› Daily Mail – 5 out of 5
› Perfect Home Magazine – Best Buy
› Your Home Magazine – Editors Choice
› Good Housekeeping Magazine - Best Buy
› Ideal Home Magazine – Editors Choice
› Ideal Home Show – C2 – Best Overall Cylinder
› Good Housekeeping Institute – K1, Consumer Quality Assessment Test accredited
› Home Magazine – K1 – Editors Choice
› Woman magazine – X4 Extra – 'Our Favourite'
› Your Dog – X4 Extra – Best
› Real Homes – K1 – Editors Choice
› Home magazine – K1 – Editors Choice
› Ideal Home – K1 Komfort – Editors ChoiceGood Housekeeping – K1 Komfort – Best Cylinder Cleaner
when tested against other well known brands.
› Here are a few of the media acolades:GMTV – 10 out of 10
› Daily Mail – 5 out of 5
› Perfect Home Magazine – Best Buy
› Your Home Magazine – Editors Choice
› Good Housekeeping Magazine - Best Buy
› Ideal Home Magazine – Editors Choice
› Ideal Home Show – C2 – Best Overall Cylinder
› Good Housekeeping Institute – K1, Consumer Quality Assessment Test accredited
› Home Magazine – K1 – Editors Choice
› Woman magazine – X4 Extra – 'Our Favourite'
› Your Dog – X4 Extra – Best
› Real Homes – K1 – Editors Choice
› Home magazine – K1 – Editors Choice
› Ideal Home – K1 Komfort – Editors ChoiceGood Housekeeping – K1 Komfort – Best Cylinder Cleaner
02 July 2009, 01:25 PM
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02 July 2009, 02:07 PM
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SEBO vacuum cleaners regularly come top
when tested against other well known brands.
› Here are a few of the media acolades:GMTV – 10 out of 10
› Daily Mail – 5 out of 5
› Perfect Home Magazine – Best Buy
› Your Home Magazine – Editors Choice
› Good Housekeeping Magazine - Best Buy
› Ideal Home Magazine – Editors Choice
› Ideal Home Show – C2 – Best Overall Cylinder
› Good Housekeeping Institute – K1, Consumer Quality Assessment Test accredited
› Home Magazine – K1 – Editors Choice
› Woman magazine – X4 Extra – 'Our Favourite'
› Your Dog – X4 Extra – Best
› Real Homes – K1 – Editors Choice
› Home magazine – K1 – Editors Choice
› Ideal Home – K1 Komfort – Editors ChoiceGood Housekeeping – K1 Komfort – Best Cylinder Cleaner
when tested against other well known brands.
› Here are a few of the media acolades:GMTV – 10 out of 10
› Daily Mail – 5 out of 5
› Perfect Home Magazine – Best Buy
› Your Home Magazine – Editors Choice
› Good Housekeeping Magazine - Best Buy
› Ideal Home Magazine – Editors Choice
› Ideal Home Show – C2 – Best Overall Cylinder
› Good Housekeeping Institute – K1, Consumer Quality Assessment Test accredited
› Home Magazine – K1 – Editors Choice
› Woman magazine – X4 Extra – 'Our Favourite'
› Your Dog – X4 Extra – Best
› Real Homes – K1 – Editors Choice
› Home magazine – K1 – Editors Choice
› Ideal Home – K1 Komfort – Editors ChoiceGood Housekeeping – K1 Komfort – Best Cylinder Cleaner
03 July 2009, 01:24 PM
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I'm off to Primark @ Meadowhall in the morning to pick up some £2 t-shirts for the rest of the summer (after giving my old £2 ones to charity) - do me nicely
Maybe get a couple pairs of £4 shorts if I'm feeling flush
Maybe get a couple pairs of £4 shorts if I'm feeling flush
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