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28 July 2009, 03:48 PM
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Because, simply put, Alan, i can't personally see enough of a difference between watches to justify an expenditure of thousands. If it was the odd few hundred quid then yeah, ok, different watch to suit various outfits, but when every single one comprises a dial, two hands and twelve numbers, however ingeniously arranged, i just don't get it. If an expensive watch told the time "better" in some respect then i'd also find it easier to understand, but they don't!
I sometimes think watch collection comes at the point of blokes having run out of other things to buy.
I sometimes think watch collection comes at the point of blokes having run out of other things to buy.
Its the same as any appreciation of and collection of high end items, from cars to art. Different strokes for different folks.
If you can afford it, why not?
Personally, I don't collect anything, but if I could afford it, I would have a watch collection.
28 July 2009, 03:55 PM
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What i'm trying to say, is that a watch is a watch is a watch. They tell the time. There is ony one correct time! Bentleys, Bugattis etc perform in a way that a cheap car cannot, whereas a Franck Muller tells exactly the same time as a £5 Casio, there is no difference, despite whatever engineering feats have been used to accomplish it. A watch collection therefore seems to me to be a collection for a collection's sake. Great if you're a watchmaker as obviously lots of men buy into it, quite literally, but me, i just can't rationalise it in my head!
28 July 2009, 04:16 PM
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If any cost any watch was my goal then I would probable go for a Rogers London Art Series No3 with the tourbillon double barrel movement and enjoy the opportunity to have a completely bespoke watch. You can meet the designer, goldsmith, engraver and watchmaker to discuss your individaul preferences.
A bit like going to Matt and Olly Clark (RCM) with a fist full of dosh.
The watch could also be a bit cheaper.
A bit like going to Matt and Olly Clark (RCM) with a fist full of dosh.
The watch could also be a bit cheaper.
28 July 2009, 04:19 PM
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What i'm trying to say, is that a watch is a watch is a watch. They tell the time. There is ony one correct time! Bentleys, Bugattis etc perform in a way that a cheap car cannot, whereas a Franck Muller tells exactly the same time as a £5 Casio, there is no difference, despite whatever engineering feats have been used to accomplish it. A watch collection therefore seems to me to be a collection for a collection's sake. Great if you're a watchmaker as obviously lots of men buy into it, quite literally, but me, i just can't rationalise it in my head!
What does an old master do that an Ikea picture doesn't?
What does an Audi A4 do that a Ford Mondeo doesn't?
Items don't have to perform better to be more desirable (in fact, in the case above, the Mondeo is actually the better car)
In any event, aren't most collections just collections for a collection's sake?
Personally I can't rationlise people's fixation with 11 inch heels, but each to their own
28 July 2009, 04:24 PM
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So don't try
What does an old master do that an Ikea picture doesn't?
What does an Audi A4 do that a Ford Mondeo doesn't?
Items don't have to perform better to be more desirable (in fact, in the case above, the Mondeo is actually the better car)
In any event, aren't most collections just collections for a collection's sake?
Personally I can't rationlise people's fixation with 11 inch heels, but each to their own
What does an old master do that an Ikea picture doesn't?
What does an Audi A4 do that a Ford Mondeo doesn't?
Items don't have to perform better to be more desirable (in fact, in the case above, the Mondeo is actually the better car)
In any event, aren't most collections just collections for a collection's sake?
Personally I can't rationlise people's fixation with 11 inch heels, but each to their own
28 July 2009, 04:45 PM
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What i'm trying to say, is that a watch is a watch is a watch. They tell the time. There is ony one correct time! Bentleys, Bugattis etc perform in a way that a cheap car cannot, whereas a Franck Muller tells exactly the same time as a £5 Casio, there is no difference, despite whatever engineering feats have been used to accomplish it. A watch collection therefore seems to me to be a collection for a collection's sake. Great if you're a watchmaker as obviously lots of men buy into it, quite literally, but me, i just can't rationalise it in my head!
I drive a Subaru Impreza WRX because Colin McRea made we aware how cracking a car they are so I bought into the whole package. I could have bought a Fiat 4x4 Panda which would have done just the same job of getting me about.
When I'm driving the scoob it makes me fell good about my place in society
The Rolex just tells me that my watch is head and shoulders above the Casio because it's made by hand.
To say that a Rolex is a posh watch is not really true as they are very cheap when compared to some of the worlds bespoke watches.
I would compear it to a Subaru in that you can keep pace with a Supercar but not the cost.
It's all relevant to the dosh in your pocket. How many young people look at the Subaru as a must have car.
So which is it to be, keep the Subaru when a Panda will do, keep the Rolex when a Casio will do.
PS only True Collectors will pay top dollar for a first class example which has to be perfect in every way.
Where are still some fine example's to be found, for not silly money.
28 July 2009, 04:51 PM
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Thing is Mr Hoo, the Panda isn't the same as the Scoob, that's my point. Yes a watch costing thousands is precision made and so on and so on, but the end result, its function, is identical to a cheap throwaway watch. Owning a good watch (two in my case) gives me a lot of satisfatction, don't get me wrong, but from owning them, i came to the conclusion that owning more wouldn't increase my happiness, because the end result was always going to be the same - the time! Maybe i'm just impervious to the merits of having lots of watches all achieving the same end goal, but a watch collection is just something to which i'll never succumb.
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Some expensive cars will go faster, handle better, protect your family better, have more gadgets, be more comfortable etc etc
The list goes on and on. The expensive car and watch analogy does not work no matter how hard you try.
I acknowledge anyone's right to spend their money on whatever they like, and you may consider what I spend my money on a waste, but let's call a spade a spade
28 July 2009, 06:55 PM
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Where they differ enourmpusly is how they deliver it. What you cannot do is merge performance, MPG or things like to a watch, but the function of the watch is the same for both the Casio and the Rolex. But how they deliver the time telling function differs enourmously. The build quality, engineering and hand built precision is what makes the difference. Same as the Panda and Veyron.
28 July 2009, 07:07 PM
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One watch that did make me stand back in some admiration was this...
The Lange & Sohne Langematik perpetual...
Fully mechanical, self winding, piece that will deliver the right day, date and time until the year 2100. Telling you it in both 12 & 24 Hr with moon phase and zero set facility.
No monthly date resetting between now and then and it even takes into account leap years...
A thing of real beauty and stunning engineering.... yours for £75k in Platinum.
The Lange & Sohne Langematik perpetual...
Fully mechanical, self winding, piece that will deliver the right day, date and time until the year 2100. Telling you it in both 12 & 24 Hr with moon phase and zero set facility.
No monthly date resetting between now and then and it even takes into account leap years...
A thing of real beauty and stunning engineering.... yours for £75k in Platinum.
28 July 2009, 07:15 PM
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Sorry but that's gibberish. A watch tells the time, and a decent casio will tell the time as well as expensive one.
Some expensive cars will go faster, handle better, protect your family better, have more gadgets, be more comfortable etc etc
The list goes on and on. The expensive car and watch analogy does not work no matter how hard you try.
Some expensive cars will go faster, handle better, protect your family better, have more gadgets, be more comfortable etc etc
The list goes on and on. The expensive car and watch analogy does not work no matter how hard you try.
I acknowledge anyone's right to spend their money on whatever they like, and you may consider what I spend my money on a waste, but let's call a spade a spade
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28 July 2009, 07:48 PM
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Of course the analogy works. The cars function is to get you from A to B. Regardless of the car you buy, Veyron or Panda, that premise stands.
Where they differ enourmpusly is how they deliver it. What you cannot do is merge performance, MPG or things like to a watch, but the function of the watch is the same for both the Casio and the Rolex. But how they deliver the time telling function differs enourmously. The build quality, engineering and hand built precision is what makes the difference. Same as the Panda and Veyron.
Where they differ enourmpusly is how they deliver it. What you cannot do is merge performance, MPG or things like to a watch, but the function of the watch is the same for both the Casio and the Rolex. But how they deliver the time telling function differs enourmously. The build quality, engineering and hand built precision is what makes the difference. Same as the Panda and Veyron.
The Casio will tell you the CORRECT time
.ps I own both so I'm qualified
28 July 2009, 07:55 PM
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I'm surprised no-one's suggested a group buy on rolexes yet!
I'm in the market for a steel Daytona if anyone knows where to get one - a mate who promised he knew someone yada yada 18 months ago still hasn't delivered.....
Gordo
I'm in the market for a steel Daytona if anyone knows where to get one - a mate who promised he knew someone yada yada 18 months ago still hasn't delivered.....
Gordo
28 July 2009, 08:03 PM
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Oh come on, you are intelligent guys, you can't for one minute believe that.
A watch has ONE function, to tell the time/date.
A car has many functions. That's why we have estates, convertibles, hyper cars, etc etc. Because of these different abilities we even have billion $ competitive sports involving them ie F1, rally etc.
Its not the same for a watch and you know that. If you fancy an expensive watch, why shouldn't you? But the mega watch can't beat a good casio at anything in the way a hyper car will out accelerate, or an estate out carry, or a luxury saloon out comfort the competition.
Get a grip guys, you are beginning to sound psychotic
A watch has ONE function, to tell the time/date.
A car has many functions. That's why we have estates, convertibles, hyper cars, etc etc. Because of these different abilities we even have billion $ competitive sports involving them ie F1, rally etc.
Its not the same for a watch and you know that. If you fancy an expensive watch, why shouldn't you? But the mega watch can't beat a good casio at anything in the way a hyper car will out accelerate, or an estate out carry, or a luxury saloon out comfort the competition.
Get a grip guys, you are beginning to sound psychotic
28 July 2009, 08:10 PM
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28 July 2009, 08:13 PM
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One watch that did make me stand back in some admiration was this...
The Lange & Sohne Langematik perpetual...
Fully mechanical, self winding, piece that will deliver the right day, date and time until the year 2100. Telling you it in both 12 & 24 Hr with moon phase and zero set facility.
No monthly date resetting between now and then and it even takes into account leap years...
A thing of real beauty and stunning engineering.... yours for £75k in Platinum.
The Lange & Sohne Langematik perpetual...
Fully mechanical, self winding, piece that will deliver the right day, date and time until the year 2100. Telling you it in both 12 & 24 Hr with moon phase and zero set facility.
No monthly date resetting between now and then and it even takes into account leap years...
A thing of real beauty and stunning engineering.... yours for £75k in Platinum.
Sorry all Sold a bit like the Veyron
28 July 2009, 08:25 PM
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Of course the analogy works. The cars function is to get you from A to B. Regardless of the car you buy, Veyron or Panda, that premise stands.
Where they differ enourmpusly is how they deliver it. What you cannot do is merge performance, MPG or things like to a watch, but the function of the watch is the same for both the Casio and the Rolex. But how they deliver the time telling function differs enourmously. The build quality, engineering and hand built precision is what makes the difference. Same as the Panda and Veyron.
Where they differ enourmpusly is how they deliver it. What you cannot do is merge performance, MPG or things like to a watch, but the function of the watch is the same for both the Casio and the Rolex. But how they deliver the time telling function differs enourmously. The build quality, engineering and hand built precision is what makes the difference. Same as the Panda and Veyron.
Oh god i think i may have said the wrong thing
28 July 2009, 08:30 PM
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The cars get you from A to B. No argument. But the way they do it is a world apart. With a watch, you can build the most complicated movement in the world, but at the end of the day, the end result is the same - the correct time. Now if you consider spending thousands upon thousands on multiple watches just to prove that they too can tell the correct time, then that's all well and good, it's a free world, but personally speaking the fact that the end product, ie telling the correct time, is identical, i think the amount of money that collectors spend on different watches is bordering on the insane! In fact i've never owned a Casio that i can remember, but my Seiko would stand up to any watch in the world on an accuracy comparison.
28 July 2009, 08:53 PM
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The cars get you from A to B. No argument. But the way they do it is a world apart. With a watch, you can build the most complicated movement in the world, but at the end of the day, the end result is the same - the correct time. Now if you consider spending thousands upon thousands on multiple watches just to prove that they too can tell the correct time, then that's all well and good, it's a free world, but personally speaking the fact that the end product, ie telling the correct time, is identical, i think the amount of money that collectors spend on different watches is bordering on the insane! In fact i've never owned a Casio that i can remember, but my Seiko would stand up to any watch in the world on an accuracy comparison.
But it isn't about accuracy. If you want accuracy, then you don't buy a mechanical watch... buy a Quartz digital. But if you want hand built superb engineering, don't buy the quartz digital.
28 July 2009, 09:03 PM
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The cars get you from A to B. No argument. But the way they do it is a world apart. With a watch, you can build the most complicated movement in the world, but at the end of the day, the end result is the same
28 July 2009, 09:27 PM
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But if you just wont to know the time the atomic clock is almost spot on. Unlike my Rolex which is perfect
