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19 July 2009, 12:27 PM
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Image depends on who is viewing as it will vary form person to person. Me I like a good quality watch but not one that is overtly showy that to me is a waste and actually implies a negative image. A big like driving a huge blinged up SUV for a simple shopping trip.
At the end of the day do what makes you happy as long as it harm nobody else don;t worry too much what others think but do be carefuly about people wanting to nick the watch. My dad gave up on Rolex watches after having several stolen.
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At the end of the day do what makes you happy as long as it harm nobody else don;t worry too much what others think but do be carefuly about people wanting to nick the watch. My dad gave up on Rolex watches after having several stolen.
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19 July 2009, 04:44 PM
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It's a joy having the burden of image lifted. Most grow out of it by the time they are about 30. Not half of SN though...
A typical chav (with a few quid) shopping list:
Rolex/Tag/whatever plus other jewellery
BMW/Audi/Rally rep car
TV over 37"
New (or newish) build house in an anytown housing estate (of course all vehementy deny they live on an estate - after all their house has a DOUBLE garage, next doors only has a single...) near a city - to try and make it seem posh.
Naff but expensive resort type holidays in places like Florida.
Like football
Can't tell the difference between a New World and a classic wine without reading the label
Have or want to have a nasty breed of dog
Read the Express or Daily Mail but often get a broadsheet to pretend they are posh.
No degree or higher education "cos it dun't matter" Extreme anti higher education views.
ANY clothing with a car/rally brand on it.
I'm sure some more will come up...
It's a joy having the burden of image lifted. Most grow out of it by the time they are about 30. Not half of SN though...
A typical chav (with a few quid) shopping list:
Rolex/Tag/whatever plus other jewellery
BMW/Audi/Rally rep car
TV over 37"
New (or newish) build house in an anytown housing estate (of course all vehementy deny they live on an estate - after all their house has a DOUBLE garage, next doors only has a single...) near a city - to try and make it seem posh.
Naff but expensive resort type holidays in places like Florida.
Like football
Can't tell the difference between a New World and a classic wine without reading the label
Have or want to have a nasty breed of dog
Read the Express or Daily Mail but often get a broadsheet to pretend they are posh.
No degree or higher education "cos it dun't matter" Extreme anti higher education views.
ANY clothing with a car/rally brand on it.
I'm sure some more will come up...
19 July 2009, 06:24 PM
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So when you use an argument it's putting things into perspective but when i show how that argument does not hold up and how your own ideas are flawed it's infantile 
I could buy Vivienne Westwood stuff all day long, happy in the knowledge that it's thje height of fashion, quality and style
I could buy Vivienne Westwood stuff all day long, happy in the knowledge that it's thje height of fashion, quality and style
That's why I labeled your argument as an infantile one.
I'll also say again, any man above the age of about 25 who is concerned about designer labels is insecure, self absorbed and narcissistic.
19 July 2009, 06:33 PM
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But as i showed, it's not always better to do that is it? Buying a house in this case would have lost someone £80k odd. That isn't better is it?
A £250K house has no better image than a £200K one - they'd both be small/average at best in any decent area.
Why, what's so special about turning 25?
Just because you've perhaps let yourself go and no longer care about looking good doesn't mean others feel that way. I'm secure that i can wear nice clothes and pull them off and look good. Someone who was insecure would not be able to do so would they?
I get money back on nice clothes too when i'm bored of them. Usually at least 50% of RRP if i sell them a year or two later. Try that with M+S or Next stuff (and that's being generous using decent seller examples, not to mention crap from supermarkets or other crap high st shops), you'd be lucky to sell them for 10% of what you paid. I can buy Westwood stuff for 60% of RRP and then sell them after i've had them a year for 50% of RRP or even for what i paid. Cost to me next to nothing. Anyone with any financial nouse would do the same. Wear nice, well made, exquisitly designed rare clothes for next to nothing or wear cheaply made high st crap that everyone else has that are worthless the moment you buy them, not such a tough choice really.
A £250K house has no better image than a £200K one - they'd both be small/average at best in any decent area.
Why, what's so special about turning 25?
Just because you've perhaps let yourself go and no longer care about looking good doesn't mean others feel that way. I'm secure that i can wear nice clothes and pull them off and look good. Someone who was insecure would not be able to do so would they?
I get money back on nice clothes too when i'm bored of them. Usually at least 50% of RRP if i sell them a year or two later. Try that with M+S or Next stuff (and that's being generous using decent seller examples, not to mention crap from supermarkets or other crap high st shops), you'd be lucky to sell them for 10% of what you paid. I can buy Westwood stuff for 60% of RRP and then sell them after i've had them a year for 50% of RRP or even for what i paid. Cost to me next to nothing. Anyone with any financial nouse would do the same. Wear nice, well made, exquisitly designed rare clothes for next to nothing or wear cheaply made high st crap that everyone else has that are worthless the moment you buy them, not such a tough choice really.
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19 July 2009, 06:41 PM
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But as i showed, it's not always better to do that is it? Buying a house in this case would have lost someone £80k odd. That isn't better is it?
A £250K house has no better image than a £200K one - they'd both be small/average at best in any decent area.
Why, what's so special about turning 25?
Just because you've perhaps let yourself go and no longer care about looking good doesn't mean others feel that way. I'm secure that i can wear nice clothes and pull them off and look good. Someone who was insecure would not be able to do so would they?
I get money back on nice clothes too when i'm bored of them. Usually at least 50% of RRP if i sell them a year or two later. Try that with M+S or Next stuff (and that's being generous using decent seller examples, not to mention crap from supermarkets or other crap high st shops), you'd be lucky to sell them for 10% of what you paid. I can buy Westwood stuff for 60% of RRP and then sell them after i've had them a year for 50% of RRP or even for what i paid. Cost to me next to nothing. Anyone with any financial nouse would do the same. Wear nice, well made, exquisitly designed rare clothes for next to nothing or wear cheaply made high st crap that everyone else has that are worthless the moment you buy them, not such a tough choice really.
A £250K house has no better image than a £200K one - they'd both be small/average at best in any decent area.
Why, what's so special about turning 25?
Just because you've perhaps let yourself go and no longer care about looking good doesn't mean others feel that way. I'm secure that i can wear nice clothes and pull them off and look good. Someone who was insecure would not be able to do so would they?
I get money back on nice clothes too when i'm bored of them. Usually at least 50% of RRP if i sell them a year or two later. Try that with M+S or Next stuff (and that's being generous using decent seller examples, not to mention crap from supermarkets or other crap high st shops), you'd be lucky to sell them for 10% of what you paid. I can buy Westwood stuff for 60% of RRP and then sell them after i've had them a year for 50% of RRP or even for what i paid. Cost to me next to nothing. Anyone with any financial nouse would do the same. Wear nice, well made, exquisitly designed rare clothes for next to nothing or wear cheaply made high st crap that everyone else has that are worthless the moment you buy them, not such a tough choice really.
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But as i showed, it's not always better to do that is it? Buying a house in this case would have lost someone £80k odd. That isn't better is it?
A £250K house has no better image than a £200K one - they'd both be small/average at best in any decent area.
Why, what's so special about turning 25?
Just because you've perhaps let yourself go and no longer care about looking good doesn't mean others feel that way. I'm secure that i can wear nice clothes and pull them off and look good. Someone who was insecure would not be able to do so would they?
I get money back on nice clothes too when i'm bored of them. Usually at least 50% of RRP if i sell them a year or two later. Try that with M+S or Next stuff (and that's being generous using decent seller examples, not to mention crap from supermarkets or other crap high st shops), you'd be lucky to sell them for 10% of what you paid. I can buy Westwood stuff for 60% of RRP and then sell them after i've had them a year for 50% of RRP or even for what i paid. Cost to me next to nothing. Anyone with any financial nouse would do the same. Wear nice, well made, exquisitly designed rare clothes for next to nothing or wear cheaply made high st crap that everyone else has that are worthless the moment you buy them, not such a tough choice really.
A £250K house has no better image than a £200K one - they'd both be small/average at best in any decent area.
Why, what's so special about turning 25?
Just because you've perhaps let yourself go and no longer care about looking good doesn't mean others feel that way. I'm secure that i can wear nice clothes and pull them off and look good. Someone who was insecure would not be able to do so would they?
I get money back on nice clothes too when i'm bored of them. Usually at least 50% of RRP if i sell them a year or two later. Try that with M+S or Next stuff (and that's being generous using decent seller examples, not to mention crap from supermarkets or other crap high st shops), you'd be lucky to sell them for 10% of what you paid. I can buy Westwood stuff for 60% of RRP and then sell them after i've had them a year for 50% of RRP or even for what i paid. Cost to me next to nothing. Anyone with any financial nouse would do the same. Wear nice, well made, exquisitly designed rare clothes for next to nothing or wear cheaply made high st crap that everyone else has that are worthless the moment you buy them, not such a tough choice really.
I would well rather have new ones with no designer lables than second hand ones with.
19 July 2009, 06:54 PM
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Before ebay was the rage my ex-wife used to go round all the designer dress agencies (basically a posh charity shop) and would buy things that the rich ladies of Harrogate would buy and wear once then sell to the dress agencies.
Jimmy Choo, Manolo Blahnik shoes, dresses from lots of top designers for 10% of the original cost and some not even been worn.
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I know what you're saying but you wouldnt believe the things you can get.
Before ebay was the rage my ex-wife used to go round all the designer dress agencies (basically a posh charity shop) and would buy things that the rich ladies of Harrogate would buy and wear once then sell to the dress agencies.
Jimmy Choo, Manolo Blahnik shoes, dresses from lots of top designers for 10% of the original cost and some not even been worn.
Before ebay was the rage my ex-wife used to go round all the designer dress agencies (basically a posh charity shop) and would buy things that the rich ladies of Harrogate would buy and wear once then sell to the dress agencies.
Jimmy Choo, Manolo Blahnik shoes, dresses from lots of top designers for 10% of the original cost and some not even been worn.
19 July 2009, 07:16 PM
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Example - vivienne westwood coat, Clothes, Shoes Accessories items at low prices on eBay.co.uk - Those prices are all more than they would have been new....
You obv have to keep them tidy like which is where i do fail 50% of the time
19 July 2009, 07:23 PM
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I only buy clothes from British designers...
Vivienne Westwood
Alexander Mcqueen
Jeff Banks
Paul Smith
Oswald Boateng
Thomas Pink
Gieves and Hawkes
All Saints
Charles Tyrwhitt
Diesel
to name a few...
19 July 2009, 07:38 PM
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19 July 2009, 08:03 PM
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Was it my frank phrase that made you assume I was some sort of scratter??
Maybe I should have said......please refrain from being a snooty ****!!
19 July 2009, 08:04 PM
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I have to say i'm in Deep's camp, all about priorities, I make pretty good money, and what i make goes on my properties, not needing my wife to work, our 5 kids, 2/3 foreign holidays a year, food (have you any idea what fresh parmesan costs) and not having any short term debt.
I have a pretty nice watch, and drive 100k's worth of cars (when new) -- its just that they are all over ten years old -- let some financial numbti take the hit
and luckily grew out of designer clothes when I was 19, but my wife did get married in Vivienne Westwood (and white whellies)
I have a pretty nice watch, and drive 100k's worth of cars (when new) -- its just that they are all over ten years old -- let some financial numbti take the hit
and luckily grew out of designer clothes when I was 19, but my wife did get married in Vivienne Westwood (and white whellies)
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19 July 2009, 10:23 PM
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Matt,
you are hysterical.
In other posts you waffle on about the expensive cars your parents had when you were growing up. How much money all their friends had, and yet now you suggest they were skint.
Your published accounts for last year certainly don't support your ability to own a 3000sq foot house in a desirable area of Cornwall. The previous business didn't do to well either.
So, its either the wife, her family or your parents who have the funds behind them. Perhaps that explains your massive hangups about material possessions.
For the record, and for the benefit of the original poster, I've got a Sea Dweller which shares wrist time with a G shock. I bought it because I wanted one. Its my third Rolex, following a SS Vintage Daytona and a SS Sub Date.
I appreciate the engineering, the quality and the history behind it. It gets worn with jeans (Levis) and T shirts (various non designer) and it also gets worn with a suit (which I wear to my professional, city based, job for, lets just say, a few days a week). It suits both equally and only people with real issues like Matt ever notice it. It also gets worn when walking (and playing with) two Rottweilers, and has the odd scratch on the case and strap as a result.
I don't covet it, I appreciate it.
My wife has one too - a simple S/S lady oyster. Bought because she could, and because she loved it. It never leaves her wrist.
I have both a degree, and further professional qualifications. I have private medical cover, yet live in a new build house (albeit mortgage free and in the country)
Everything I own with my wife we have bought with what we have earned.
Deep will be undisturbed by our car - a Shogun (handy for the snow in winter, the tracks in summer and towing the horse about)
Now I'm not quite sure where that places me in Matt's scale of materialist chavedom, although I suspect it plays havoc with his "model". But then, I don't really care because all of what I buy, I buy for me. Not for image, status, or anything else, no matter how hard that may be for Matt to accept.
He got a brief mention earlier, but using his style, I see a (doctor?) with a nice car who apparently needs to share all his (costly) house remodelling and various high end purchases and I think "attention seeker" with as big a chip on his shoulder as Matt, albeit at the opposite end of the scale.
Ironic, isn't it. The image portrayed by the two most "anti" expensive watch posters in this thread is probably the least savory of all
you are hysterical.
In other posts you waffle on about the expensive cars your parents had when you were growing up. How much money all their friends had, and yet now you suggest they were skint.
Your published accounts for last year certainly don't support your ability to own a 3000sq foot house in a desirable area of Cornwall. The previous business didn't do to well either.
So, its either the wife, her family or your parents who have the funds behind them. Perhaps that explains your massive hangups about material possessions.
For the record, and for the benefit of the original poster, I've got a Sea Dweller which shares wrist time with a G shock. I bought it because I wanted one. Its my third Rolex, following a SS Vintage Daytona and a SS Sub Date.
I appreciate the engineering, the quality and the history behind it. It gets worn with jeans (Levis) and T shirts (various non designer) and it also gets worn with a suit (which I wear to my professional, city based, job for, lets just say, a few days a week). It suits both equally and only people with real issues like Matt ever notice it. It also gets worn when walking (and playing with) two Rottweilers, and has the odd scratch on the case and strap as a result.
I don't covet it, I appreciate it.
My wife has one too - a simple S/S lady oyster. Bought because she could, and because she loved it. It never leaves her wrist.
I have both a degree, and further professional qualifications. I have private medical cover, yet live in a new build house (albeit mortgage free and in the country)
Everything I own with my wife we have bought with what we have earned.
Deep will be undisturbed by our car - a Shogun (handy for the snow in winter, the tracks in summer and towing the horse about)
Now I'm not quite sure where that places me in Matt's scale of materialist chavedom, although I suspect it plays havoc with his "model". But then, I don't really care because all of what I buy, I buy for me. Not for image, status, or anything else, no matter how hard that may be for Matt to accept.
He got a brief mention earlier, but using his style, I see a (doctor?) with a nice car who apparently needs to share all his (costly) house remodelling and various high end purchases and I think "attention seeker" with as big a chip on his shoulder as Matt, albeit at the opposite end of the scale.
Ironic, isn't it. The image portrayed by the two most "anti" expensive watch posters in this thread is probably the least savory of all
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20 July 2009, 12:05 AM
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What a bunch of **** arguing like this, trying to claim immunity from the afectations of material wealth yet at the same time trying to itemise your life as a series of possesions, you do not need to justify your choices to anyone other than yourself, the only thing worse than someone with more money than taste is someone who spends too much effort to point out their errors in taste.
Some people like watches, I use my phone to tell the time until I get the second hand seamaster that for some inexplicable
Reason I want, if someone wants a Rolex then so what, might impress those that notice, might annoy others, who cares if it tells the
Time, I am way more offended by Chinas human rights record or many other things nthan nsomeone who spent a load of cash on a watch.
I think sometime people doing ok can't cope with others doing well, it's a big world and there is someone you perceive as having less about them doing better than yourself, remember Jade Goody ?
Some people like watches, I use my phone to tell the time until I get the second hand seamaster that for some inexplicable
Reason I want, if someone wants a Rolex then so what, might impress those that notice, might annoy others, who cares if it tells the
Time, I am way more offended by Chinas human rights record or many other things nthan nsomeone who spent a load of cash on a watch.
I think sometime people doing ok can't cope with others doing well, it's a big world and there is someone you perceive as having less about them doing better than yourself, remember Jade Goody ?
20 July 2009, 12:18 AM
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It's all bollocks in the end. All my life I've refused to wear anything with a visible label on it, except for Dr. Marten's boots. Even to the point of cutting the logo on a sweatshirt out with a pair of scissors when I was a young chap. I probably was born with more talents than any one person has a right to have but for one reason or another have declined to, or failed to capitalise upon them. I suppose I see financial "success" as a badge of how much of an arsehole you are or how much you have **** on people and taken their money. Outrageous watches and the wearing of them is just another statement of wankerdom.
No offence.
No offence.
20 July 2009, 12:31 AM
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To the op... Do you want the watch/afford it?
If so, just buy it, and enjoy it.
Do you really care what other people think of you based on a watch? And I'm guessing we're talking here about people you don't know.
I'm sure anyone you know, would just accept you bought something because you liked it. As for people you don't know, does it really matter if someone you'll most likely have nothing to do with, sees your watch and thinks 'flash *******', showoff etc.?
I personally don't like to judge someone on what they wear, drive etc (I'm not talking first impressions, but actually forming lasting opinions). It's much more important how they behave towards others.
If you were buying it as a status symbol, and that was reflected in how you behave in life, I think it's a bit sad, but if you are buying it because you like it, then ge on with it, and sod what anyone else might think. imo.
If so, just buy it, and enjoy it.
Do you really care what other people think of you based on a watch? And I'm guessing we're talking here about people you don't know.
I'm sure anyone you know, would just accept you bought something because you liked it. As for people you don't know, does it really matter if someone you'll most likely have nothing to do with, sees your watch and thinks 'flash *******', showoff etc.?
I personally don't like to judge someone on what they wear, drive etc (I'm not talking first impressions, but actually forming lasting opinions). It's much more important how they behave towards others.
If you were buying it as a status symbol, and that was reflected in how you behave in life, I think it's a bit sad, but if you are buying it because you like it, then ge on with it, and sod what anyone else might think. imo.
20 July 2009, 06:19 AM
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While a Rolex can be a fairly tragic item on the wrong wrist if it's a stainless model worn as an everyday beater then I don't think anyone can rightly categorise it as 'naff'. They are tool watches. If you prefer to use tat from Halfords instead of Snap On then that's up to you.
Personally I feel quite happy wearing my Seadwellers or historic Subs whatever the occasion. If anyone was crass enough to ask I'd tell them they were fakes, meanwhile I'm sporting 15 grand on my wrist while the loser goes off to cry to momma.
Personally I feel quite happy wearing my Seadwellers or historic Subs whatever the occasion. If anyone was crass enough to ask I'd tell them they were fakes, meanwhile I'm sporting 15 grand on my wrist while the loser goes off to cry to momma.
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It's a joy having the burden of image lifted. Most grow out of it by the time they are about 30. Not half of SN though...
A typical chav (with a few quid) shopping list:
Rolex/Tag/whatever plus other jewellery
BMW/Audi/Rally rep car
TV over 37"
New (or newish) build house in an anytown housing estate (of course all vehementy deny they live on an estate - after all their house has a DOUBLE garage, next doors only has a single...) near a city - to try and make it seem posh.
Naff but expensive resort type holidays in places like Florida.
Like football
Can't tell the difference between a New World and a classic wine without reading the label
Have or want to have a nasty breed of dog
Read the Express or Daily Mail but often get a broadsheet to pretend they are posh.
No degree or higher education "cos it dun't matter" Extreme anti higher education views.
ANY clothing with a car/rally brand on it.
I'm sure some more will come up...
It's a joy having the burden of image lifted. Most grow out of it by the time they are about 30. Not half of SN though...
A typical chav (with a few quid) shopping list:
Rolex/Tag/whatever plus other jewellery
BMW/Audi/Rally rep car
TV over 37"
New (or newish) build house in an anytown housing estate (of course all vehementy deny they live on an estate - after all their house has a DOUBLE garage, next doors only has a single...) near a city - to try and make it seem posh.
Naff but expensive resort type holidays in places like Florida.
Like football
Can't tell the difference between a New World and a classic wine without reading the label
Have or want to have a nasty breed of dog
Read the Express or Daily Mail but often get a broadsheet to pretend they are posh.
No degree or higher education "cos it dun't matter" Extreme anti higher education views.
ANY clothing with a car/rally brand on it.
I'm sure some more will come up...
You really should consider getting some help.
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Matt,
you are hysterical.
In other posts you waffle on about the expensive cars your parents had when you were growing up. How much money all their friends had, and yet now you suggest they were skint.
Your published accounts for last year certainly don't support your ability to own a 3000sq foot house in a desirable area of Cornwall. The previous business didn't do to well either.
So, its either the wife, her family or your parents who have the funds behind them. Perhaps that explains your massive hangups about material possessions.
For the record, and for the benefit of the original poster, I've got a Sea Dweller which shares wrist time with a G shock. I bought it because I wanted one. Its my third Rolex, following a SS Vintage Daytona and a SS Sub Date.
I appreciate the engineering, the quality and the history behind it. It gets worn with jeans (Levis) and T shirts (various non designer) and it also gets worn with a suit (which I wear to my professional, city based, job for, lets just say, a few days a week). It suits both equally and only people with real issues like Matt ever notice it. It also gets worn when walking (and playing with) two Rottweilers, and has the odd scratch on the case and strap as a result.
I don't covet it, I appreciate it.
My wife has one too - a simple S/S lady oyster. Bought because she could, and because she loved it. It never leaves her wrist.
I have both a degree, and further professional qualifications. I have private medical cover, yet live in a new build house (albeit mortgage free and in the country)
Everything I own with my wife we have bought with what we have earned.
Deep will be undisturbed by our car - a Shogun (handy for the snow in winter, the tracks in summer and towing the horse about)
Now I'm not quite sure where that places me in Matt's scale of materialist chavedom, although I suspect it plays havoc with his "model". But then, I don't really care because all of what I buy, I buy for me. Not for image, status, or anything else, no matter how hard that may be for Matt to accept.
He got a brief mention earlier, but using his style, I see a (doctor?) with a nice car who apparently needs to share all his (costly) house remodelling and various high end purchases and I think "attention seeker" with as big a chip on his shoulder as Matt, albeit at the opposite end of the scale.
Ironic, isn't it. The image portrayed by the two most "anti" expensive watch posters in this thread is probably the least savory of all
you are hysterical.
In other posts you waffle on about the expensive cars your parents had when you were growing up. How much money all their friends had, and yet now you suggest they were skint.
Your published accounts for last year certainly don't support your ability to own a 3000sq foot house in a desirable area of Cornwall. The previous business didn't do to well either.
So, its either the wife, her family or your parents who have the funds behind them. Perhaps that explains your massive hangups about material possessions.
For the record, and for the benefit of the original poster, I've got a Sea Dweller which shares wrist time with a G shock. I bought it because I wanted one. Its my third Rolex, following a SS Vintage Daytona and a SS Sub Date.
I appreciate the engineering, the quality and the history behind it. It gets worn with jeans (Levis) and T shirts (various non designer) and it also gets worn with a suit (which I wear to my professional, city based, job for, lets just say, a few days a week). It suits both equally and only people with real issues like Matt ever notice it. It also gets worn when walking (and playing with) two Rottweilers, and has the odd scratch on the case and strap as a result.
I don't covet it, I appreciate it.
My wife has one too - a simple S/S lady oyster. Bought because she could, and because she loved it. It never leaves her wrist.
I have both a degree, and further professional qualifications. I have private medical cover, yet live in a new build house (albeit mortgage free and in the country)
Everything I own with my wife we have bought with what we have earned.
Deep will be undisturbed by our car - a Shogun (handy for the snow in winter, the tracks in summer and towing the horse about)
Now I'm not quite sure where that places me in Matt's scale of materialist chavedom, although I suspect it plays havoc with his "model". But then, I don't really care because all of what I buy, I buy for me. Not for image, status, or anything else, no matter how hard that may be for Matt to accept.
He got a brief mention earlier, but using his style, I see a (doctor?) with a nice car who apparently needs to share all his (costly) house remodelling and various high end purchases and I think "attention seeker" with as big a chip on his shoulder as Matt, albeit at the opposite end of the scale.
Ironic, isn't it. The image portrayed by the two most "anti" expensive watch posters in this thread is probably the least savory of all
I am not anti material posessions, including nice watches. I own an ok watch myself, which I loved when I first bought it. It was the most I could afford when I bought it about 7 years ago.
I'm not labelling anybody a chav for owning a rolex, or for owning anything else.
I'll say again for about the third time.....
The op asked what image the rolex portrays, my opinion is, on its own NONE.
20 July 2009, 09:18 AM
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Matt,
you are hysterical.
In other posts you waffle on about the expensive cars your parents had when you were growing up. How much money all their friends had, and yet now you suggest they were skint. They lost money in the recession of the late 80s - as did many.
Your published accounts for last year certainly don't support your ability to own a 3000sq foot house in a desirable area of Cornwall. The previous business didn't do to well either. The family business did very well. The one we set up afterwards wasn't great so we changed - as do many others. You checked our accounts? Is that for real? I think it's time to inform the moderators and the Police. The house is large, it has 5 acres of land. I have posted photos - do you think I went to someone elses house and pretended it's ours? It's also RENTED.
So, its either the wife, her family or your parents who have the funds behind them. Perhaps that explains your massive hangups about material possessions. We made some money selling a company but that just wiped out debts and got us a car - we worked our ***** off to make that money. We set up our current business from nothing.
For the record, and for the benefit of the original poster, I've got a Sea Dweller which shares wrist time with a G shock. I bought it because I wanted one. Its my third Rolex, following a SS Vintage Daytona and a SS Sub Date.
I appreciate the engineering, the quality and the history behind it. It gets worn with jeans (Levis) and T shirts (various non designer) and it also gets worn with a suit (which I wear to my professional, city based, job for, lets just say, a few days a week). It suits both equally and only people with real issues like Matt ever notice it. It also gets worn when walking (and playing with) two Rottweilers, and has the odd scratch on the case and strap as a result.
I don't covet it, I appreciate it.
My wife has one too - a simple S/S lady oyster. Bought because she could, and because she loved it. It never leaves her wrist.
I have both a degree, and further professional qualifications. I have private medical cover, yet live in a new build house (albeit mortgage free and in the country)
Everything I own with my wife we have bought with what we have earned.
Deep will be undisturbed by our car - a Shogun (handy for the snow in winter, the tracks in summer and towing the horse about)
Now I'm not quite sure where that places me in Matt's scale of materialist chavedom, although I suspect it plays havoc with his "model". But then, I don't really care because all of what I buy, I buy for me. Not for image, status, or anything else, no matter how hard that may be for Matt to accept.
He got a brief mention earlier, but using his style, I see a (doctor?) with a nice car who apparently needs to share all his (costly) house remodelling and various high end purchases and I think "attention seeker" with as big a chip on his shoulder as Matt, albeit at the opposite end of the scale.
Ironic, isn't it. The image portrayed by the two most "anti" expensive watch posters in this thread is probably the least savory of all
you are hysterical.
In other posts you waffle on about the expensive cars your parents had when you were growing up. How much money all their friends had, and yet now you suggest they were skint. They lost money in the recession of the late 80s - as did many.
Your published accounts for last year certainly don't support your ability to own a 3000sq foot house in a desirable area of Cornwall. The previous business didn't do to well either. The family business did very well. The one we set up afterwards wasn't great so we changed - as do many others. You checked our accounts? Is that for real? I think it's time to inform the moderators and the Police. The house is large, it has 5 acres of land. I have posted photos - do you think I went to someone elses house and pretended it's ours? It's also RENTED.
So, its either the wife, her family or your parents who have the funds behind them. Perhaps that explains your massive hangups about material possessions. We made some money selling a company but that just wiped out debts and got us a car - we worked our ***** off to make that money. We set up our current business from nothing.
For the record, and for the benefit of the original poster, I've got a Sea Dweller which shares wrist time with a G shock. I bought it because I wanted one. Its my third Rolex, following a SS Vintage Daytona and a SS Sub Date.
I appreciate the engineering, the quality and the history behind it. It gets worn with jeans (Levis) and T shirts (various non designer) and it also gets worn with a suit (which I wear to my professional, city based, job for, lets just say, a few days a week). It suits both equally and only people with real issues like Matt ever notice it. It also gets worn when walking (and playing with) two Rottweilers, and has the odd scratch on the case and strap as a result.
I don't covet it, I appreciate it.
My wife has one too - a simple S/S lady oyster. Bought because she could, and because she loved it. It never leaves her wrist.
I have both a degree, and further professional qualifications. I have private medical cover, yet live in a new build house (albeit mortgage free and in the country)
Everything I own with my wife we have bought with what we have earned.
Deep will be undisturbed by our car - a Shogun (handy for the snow in winter, the tracks in summer and towing the horse about)
Now I'm not quite sure where that places me in Matt's scale of materialist chavedom, although I suspect it plays havoc with his "model". But then, I don't really care because all of what I buy, I buy for me. Not for image, status, or anything else, no matter how hard that may be for Matt to accept.
He got a brief mention earlier, but using his style, I see a (doctor?) with a nice car who apparently needs to share all his (costly) house remodelling and various high end purchases and I think "attention seeker" with as big a chip on his shoulder as Matt, albeit at the opposite end of the scale.
Ironic, isn't it. The image portrayed by the two most "anti" expensive watch posters in this thread is probably the least savory of all
You have serious issues DD - as others have mentioned, DP and I are happy, doing fine and keen to share experiences and advice. It's a shame as I thought you were okay.
Or are we making too much noise? I seem to remember you enjoy a bit of bleating and even threats of violence?
20 July 2009, 09:35 AM
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But as i showed, it's not always better to do that is it? Buying a house in this case would have lost someone £80k odd. That isn't better is it?
A £250K house has no better image than a £200K one - they'd both be small/average at best in any decent area.
Why, what's so special about turning 25?
Just because you've perhaps let yourself go and no longer care about looking good doesn't mean others feel that way. I'm secure that i can wear nice clothes and pull them off and look good. Someone who was insecure would not be able to do so would they?
I get money back on nice clothes too when i'm bored of them. Usually at least 50% of RRP if i sell them a year or two later. Try that with M+S or Next stuff (and that's being generous using decent seller examples, not to mention crap from supermarkets or other crap high st shops), you'd be lucky to sell them for 10% of what you paid. I can buy Westwood stuff for 60% of RRP and then sell them after i've had them a year for 50% of RRP or even for what i paid. Cost to me next to nothing. Anyone with any financial nouse would do the same. Wear nice, well made, exquisitly designed rare clothes for next to nothing or wear cheaply made high st crap that everyone else has that are worthless the moment you buy them, not such a tough choice really.
A £250K house has no better image than a £200K one - they'd both be small/average at best in any decent area.
Why, what's so special about turning 25?
Just because you've perhaps let yourself go and no longer care about looking good doesn't mean others feel that way. I'm secure that i can wear nice clothes and pull them off and look good. Someone who was insecure would not be able to do so would they?
I get money back on nice clothes too when i'm bored of them. Usually at least 50% of RRP if i sell them a year or two later. Try that with M+S or Next stuff (and that's being generous using decent seller examples, not to mention crap from supermarkets or other crap high st shops), you'd be lucky to sell them for 10% of what you paid. I can buy Westwood stuff for 60% of RRP and then sell them after i've had them a year for 50% of RRP or even for what i paid. Cost to me next to nothing. Anyone with any financial nouse would do the same. Wear nice, well made, exquisitly designed rare clothes for next to nothing or wear cheaply made high st crap that everyone else has that are worthless the moment you buy them, not such a tough choice really.
What if he had bought that house with an extra £25k (ie £5k cash leveraged) 10 years ago and then sold just before the crash? Could have easily made a cool £100k cash.
Of course that's very conveniant for my arguememt, as is your scenario over the last 2 years. Hence why I said my point was a general one that everybody else seems to get apart from you.
Why do you assume I've let myself go? Because I'm not self absorbed and don't spend my life in front of the mirror? I'm in the gym about 3 times a week.
And as for you 'knowing you look good'. I've seen your photos don't forget! LOL
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But as i showed, it's not always better to do that is it? Buying a house in this case would have lost someone £80k odd. That isn't better is it?
A £250K house has no better image than a £200K one - they'd both be small/average at best in any decent area.
Why, what's so special about turning 25?
Just because you've perhaps let yourself go and no longer care about looking good doesn't mean others feel that way. I'm secure that i can wear nice clothes and pull them off and look good. Someone who was insecure would not be able to do so would they?
I get money back on nice clothes too when i'm bored of them. Usually at least 50% of RRP if i sell them a year or two later. Try that with M+S or Next stuff (and that's being generous using decent seller examples, not to mention crap from supermarkets or other crap high st shops), you'd be lucky to sell them for 10% of what you paid. I can buy Westwood stuff for 60% of RRP and then sell them after i've had them a year for 50% of RRP or even for what i paid. Cost to me next to nothing. Anyone with any financial nouse would do the same. Wear nice, well made, exquisitly designed rare clothes for next to nothing or wear cheaply made high st crap that everyone else has that are worthless the moment you buy them, not such a tough choice really.
A £250K house has no better image than a £200K one - they'd both be small/average at best in any decent area.
Why, what's so special about turning 25?
Just because you've perhaps let yourself go and no longer care about looking good doesn't mean others feel that way. I'm secure that i can wear nice clothes and pull them off and look good. Someone who was insecure would not be able to do so would they?
I get money back on nice clothes too when i'm bored of them. Usually at least 50% of RRP if i sell them a year or two later. Try that with M+S or Next stuff (and that's being generous using decent seller examples, not to mention crap from supermarkets or other crap high st shops), you'd be lucky to sell them for 10% of what you paid. I can buy Westwood stuff for 60% of RRP and then sell them after i've had them a year for 50% of RRP or even for what i paid. Cost to me next to nothing. Anyone with any financial nouse would do the same. Wear nice, well made, exquisitly designed rare clothes for next to nothing or wear cheaply made high st crap that everyone else has that are worthless the moment you buy them, not such a tough choice really.
What if he had bought that house with an extra £25k (ie £5k cash leveraged) 10 years ago and then sold just before the crash? Could have easily made a cool £100k cash.
Of course that's very convenient for my argument, as is your scenario over the last 2 years. Hence why I said my point was a general one that everybody else seems to get apart from you.
Why do you assume I've let myself go? Because I'm not self absorbed and don't spend my life in front of the mirror? I'm in the gym about 3 times a week.
And as for you 'knowing you look good'. I've seen your photos don't forget! LOL