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Old 05 August 2009, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ozzy_B
oh also cyclists who ride next to each other, having a nice chat, blocking the whole lane, in a 30 limit, when theres too much traffic oncoming to overtake, causing a tail back...happened the other day, the frustration still hurts
Yes I agree with that one, annoys the hell out of me. Also cyclists who insist on using the road when there is a perfectly good cycle lane to use.
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Two big trucks over taking at 2mph faster than the other one on a dual carriageway, I call it elephant racing!
Old 05 August 2009, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dease
Two big trucks over taking at 2mph faster than the other one on a dual carriageway, I call it elephant racing!
Especially when they enter a long left curve or head uphill, and the overtaking truck starts to lose ground again. Oh how I laugh when he eventually gives up after 10 minutes and pulls sheepishly back in where he started from to let the 10,000 cars behind him get past.
Old 05 August 2009, 04:34 PM
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My list is;
Middle lane drivers on motorways at 6am when no ones up.
Middle lane drivers full stop.
People with fogs on in clear weather.
People with fogs off in fog.
People with fogs off in torrential rain on motorways.
***** with bore exhausts on rover 214se's and the likes.

the list could be exhaustive but their my main ones..
Old 05 August 2009, 04:37 PM
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Drivers who speed up as you overtake on a motorway.

People who do not indicate to change lanes when approaching an HGV etc. I generally move over prior to them even indicating but sometimes I will see them looking in their mirrors for ages but not indicating and then just fly out. You can see the "obstacle" indicate and you "should" get out easily.

On the flip side, lol, people who don't move over into an empty and safe lane when people are trying to join or overtake - properly.

People who don't join a motorway etc at a decent speed and I'm not talking 100mph here but it's not safe to join a motorway at 40 with traffic going much faster.

That'll do for now as it's annoying me now and I'm watching The Inbetweeners.
Old 05 August 2009, 07:27 PM
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Oh, nearly forgot in my rage . . . caravaners. I went from Bristol to Liverpool the other day for a stag weekend and a 3 hour journey turned into a 6 hour one because of stupid caravaners crashing. There were no fewer than 4 over turned grot boxes either in the hedges or the central reservation. Why can't they just stay at their limit and not crash? I've always fancied a caravan curfew - travel only permitted between the hours of midnight and 4 am. Why do they never pull over when they're clearly holding up several miles of traffic?
Old 05 August 2009, 07:43 PM
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People who cant follow road signs/markings on roundabouts!
People who cant go round a roundabout but cut across the lanes to go straight over instead! (Cost the last **** who did it to me his NCD and his insurance co £2k to fix me and my van)
Lurkers ( people who sit in the blind spot when attempting overtaking on motorway/dual carrigeways)
No lights on in rain/fog/poor light. This should be a banning offence!
Old 05 August 2009, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Daft Lad
Horseboxes and tractors should be banned from the roads between normal commuting hours IMO
Easy on the tractors dude. We dont drive that slow through choice.
Its normally the w****r who just wont overtake the causes all the tailbacks.

Fully agree on the horses though as they can go faster but wont just so the dont scare the stupid hay burner in transit.

Caravans have got to be the worst for causing tailbacks they drive at a slow speed but one that you cant just nip past at.
Old 05 August 2009, 08:43 PM
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Indicating once (or not at all) and pulling out on you when there is sod all behind you
People on phones (I work in the mobile sector and its just not on)
People who over take you at 80mph when your doing 70mph then slow down to 65mph making you over take them

Few gripes

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Old 05 August 2009, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by shoobydoo
My list is;
People with fogs off in torrential rain on motorways.
Your not suppose to have your fogs on in torrential rain the light is refracted making it glare more which obscures brake lights etc, your just suppose to slow down for the road conditions

Tony
Old 05 August 2009, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dease
Two big trucks over taking at 2mph faster than the other one on a dual carriageway, I call it elephant racing!
I call it keeping up momentum,44 tonne is hard to keep moving,so if another wagon is going a wee bit slower than me going into a hill,then im gonna pull out to keep my wagon moving,and if that means cars need to slow down for 10 seconds,so be it,my boss pays enough road tax.Its even worse when its the Micra with the fog light on you try to overtake,then you start slowing down gradually and the micra suddenly find the accelerator,your left sat in the middle lane like a right boob..
Old 05 August 2009, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cbscooby
i agree with most but wats up with number 10 wearing a hat, i've wore a hat for the last 12 years wats that about?
yeah sorry I'm not a hat racist honest.....what I meant is that I don't like anything that takes away from your senses whilst driving making you more of a dangerous driver. So many people that I have seen are wearing baseball caps with the peaks either down over there eye line or bent round so far that it restricts there peripheral vision.
Nevermind atleast your not wearing a burkha.
Old 05 August 2009, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by stevie333
I call it keeping up momentum,44 tonne is hard to keep moving,so if another wagon is going a wee bit slower than me going into a hill,then im gonna pull out to keep my wagon moving,and if that means cars need to slow down for 10 seconds,so be it,my boss pays enough road tax.Its even worse when its the Micra with the fog light on you try to overtake,then you start slowing down gradually and the micra suddenly find the accelerator,your left sat in the middle lane like a right boob..

Exactly right mate
We are trained to try and keep the momentum going so as to save on fuel etc.When your putting in excess of £300 of fuel per day into a vehicle you need to try and make it last.So if that means car drivers have to wait a few seconds,well sorry,but tough ****
Old 05 August 2009, 11:39 PM
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People who are turning left, brake (normal), and then brake some more (hmmm not that tight a bend) and manage to come to what feels like a complete stop during the manoeuvre.

You can be maintaining the correct stopping distances and they still seem to make you stop in the road as they attempt a simple left turn.
Old 05 August 2009, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Foofighter
Exactly right mate
We are trained to try and keep the momentum going so as to save on fuel etc.When your putting in excess of £300 of fuel per day into a vehicle you need to try and make it last.So if that means car drivers have to wait a few seconds,well sorry,but tough ****
Ive been stuck behind 2 trucks on a duel carriage way for 10 miles whilst they over took, there could have been an emergency vehicle stuck at the back, the tail back would be about 1 mile in this time, still think its worth a few car drivers having to wait when it could be someones life on the line?

Highway code says to the effect of "overtake when it is safe to do so and in the sortest possible time".
Is it worth 30p's worth of fuel or 1 persons life? you never know!

Tony
Old 06 August 2009, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Foofighter
Exactly right mate
We are trained to try and keep the momentum going so as to save on fuel etc.When your putting in excess of £300 of fuel per day into a vehicle you need to try and make it last.So if that means car drivers have to wait a few seconds,well sorry,but tough ****
When I did my HGV we were told to ease off slightly if another lorry was struggling to pass. It makes no difference to fuel consumption.

Anyway driving gripes while in a HGV is whole different subject as the feeling of 'will my lorry stop now that berk has just swung infront of me and thinks 32 tonnes stops on a six pence' is something only a HGV driver will even know.

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Old 06 August 2009, 03:17 AM
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going to throw my 2p in:

in the dark on an empty B road, i turn on my full beams and turn them off when i see a car coming the other way... why don't others???
Old 06 August 2009, 07:43 AM
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One that really annoys me is folk that on a motorway can't seem to sit at a constant speed. Usually Mr **** in his VAG eurobox who'll zoom past at 90+ and then slow to 60ish, then speed upto around 70+ and so on. All whilst using he/she's brakes in the fast lane FFS. Fookin' winds me up.

Oh another one... Mr "I'm 9000 yesrs old" who sits in his Korean/Japanese sh*tbox in the slow lane doing 45mph, causing all manner of HGV drivers to overtake him. Not so bad in 3 lanes of traffic, but I experienced it yesterday on the M18 for mile after mile. Lorries have no other option, but why do these stupid old bast*rds do 45mph on the friggin' motorway.

I'm gonna stop as my blood pressure is rising
Old 06 August 2009, 08:28 AM
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Got quite a few:

Old people that drive at 45mph everywhere no matter the speed limit. Plus when you come up behind them doing 60 they jam there brakes on and move into the side, then flash you when you overtake on an empty stretch of road as if you've done something wrong.

The roundabout lane one really annoys me. Had a few near misses with cars in the left lane going into the right lane when going straight over. Had to brake sharply or they would hit me, then they wave when you beep the horn? Whats that all about?

Not keeping to the left lane on dual carriage ways. See this all the time and its really annoying. Get a line of traffic all in the right hand lane when there is nothing in the left, causing me to undertake them, which I hate doing as I know they are the sort of drivers to change lanes without looking.

Another dual carriageway one, you see a car in the distance tailing a lorry, you move into the right hand lane in plenty of time, but when your about to go past them the car decides it finally wants to overtake and just pulls out on you.

People using the right hand lane at traffic lights that pull away slower than the left hand lane, especially when its a bus or a lorry in the left lane.

When your driving along and the road infront and behind is clear, a car comes to a junction up ahead and sits there for about 10 seconds, pulls out on you at last minute as if they're in a rush making you brake or you'll hit them, then sit at 50mph.

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Old 06 August 2009, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by stevie333
I call it keeping up momentum,44 tonne is hard to keep moving,so if another wagon is going a wee bit slower than me going into a hill,then im gonna pull out to keep my wagon moving,and if that means cars need to slow down for 10 seconds,so be it,my boss pays enough road tax.
I don't think anyone's got a problem with a 10 seconds overtaking manouevre. It's the 10 minutes ones that really annoy. The cars behind the overtaking truck can make that manoeuvre in 2 or 3 seconds, so why should dozens of car drivers have to wait 10 minutes to get past, just to save the owner of that lorry a few pennies and a minute or two on their journey time. I reckon that the combined road tax payments of all those dozens of cars far outweighs what a company pays for a lorry!

This leads to massive tailbacks and then you get impatient people trying to undertake the queue to use up the wasted hundreds of yards of empty slow lane behind the slower truck.

In Germany they have long had a system of No Overtaking (either permanent or part-time) for truck drivers on certain busy sections of dual carriageway Autobahn. It works very well: OK so maybe a few trucks are held up for a couple of minutes because they have to travel at the pace of the slowest one (say 50mph instead of 56mph), but it means that hundreds of cars and light vans can happily scoot past these trucks at 70+ mph, thereby eradicating this problem.

We really need that system on our congested dual carriageways such as the A14 Huntingdon - Cambridge section.
Old 06 August 2009, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by scooby L
People who drive at one speed whatever the speed limit.

They either hound you through a 30mph limit... then once you get onto national speed limit carry on at 40 and you think..what was the point?...

or even worse if they actually overtake you in the 30 zone.. then proceed at 50 once back onto national speed limit..
On the motorway when one HGV thats limited to 56MPH decides to overtake another HGV thats also limited to 56MPH, and the result is a rolling road block with two lanes out of action.
And i am HGV myself, but could never get into that yorkie bar in one hand and c@ck in the other, i own the road mindset.
Old 06 August 2009, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by cbscooby
i agree with most but wats up with number 10 wearing a hat, i've wore a hat for the last 12 years wats that about?
People that wear hats while driving are the ones to stay clear of, think about it:

1. The chav boy racer in the baseball hat
2. The old duffer in the trilby driving his Micra
3. The fashion victim in his woolly smurf hat who looks like he's on his way to a bank job.
4. The religious zelot wearing full head/facial cover with two holes for their eyes (no peripheral vision).

Which one are you, or have i missed one?
Old 06 August 2009, 08:52 AM
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Its not a case of wanting to own the road. The simple truth (for me anyway) is that i feel car drivers can very quickly make up lost time from being stuck behind me. I personally won't make the 10 min overtake manoeuvres but if it takes me 1 min to pass the other truck then tuff.

Don't forget hgv's can only be driven for a certain amount of time before they by law have to park up and have a rest.

We all have deadlines,car drivers included.
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If anybody uses the M4 in South Wales particularly Port Talbot, you may notice that because the locals use the M4 for short trips they are always in the offside lane doing 40mph. They must have solid necks of brass because they will not move over for anyone until they have reached their exit.
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Originally Posted by superstar1
If anybody uses the M4 in South Wales particularly Port Talbot, you may notice that because the locals use the M4 for short trips they are always in the offside lane doing 40mph. They must have solid necks of brass because they will not move over for anyone until they have reached their exit.

drive it twice a week and I fully agree!
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Originally Posted by Turbo2
I don't think anyone's got a problem with a 10 seconds overtaking manouevre. It's the 10 minutes ones that really annoy. The cars behind the overtaking truck can make that manoeuvre in 2 or 3 seconds, so why should dozens of car drivers have to wait 10 minutes to get past, just to save the owner of that lorry a few pennies and a minute or two on their journey time. I reckon that the combined road tax payments of all those dozens of cars far outweighs what a company pays for a lorry!

This leads to massive tailbacks and then you get impatient people trying to undertake the queue to use up the wasted hundreds of yards of empty slow lane behind the slower truck.

In Germany they have long had a system of No Overtaking (either permanent or part-time) for truck drivers on certain busy sections of dual carriageway Autobahn. It works very well: OK so maybe a few trucks are held up for a couple of minutes because they have to travel at the pace of the slowest one (say 50mph instead of 56mph), but it means that hundreds of cars and light vans can happily scoot past these trucks at 70+ mph, thereby eradicating this problem.

We really need that system on our congested dual carriageways such as the A14 Huntingdon - Cambridge section.
Very well said, my man.

I drive (a car) 60k+ a year and this is a huge bug bear of mine. There are also hundreds of HGV drivers in the company, so I know exactly the pressures they have, but there is often no excuse and some of them are just idiots!

The no overtaking sections do work quite well, except that many HGVs ignore the rules. Anyone use the A14 to the East of M1/M6 junction?
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Originally Posted by Mark'sWRX
The no overtaking sections do work quite well, except that many HGVs ignore the rules. Anyone use the A14 to the East of M1/M6 junction?
That bit's just a "trial" as far as I know for that hill near the Kelmarsh exit. No-one really takes any notice of it and it's not a particularly busy section anyway. I am sure we all have sections of dual carriageways in our areas that could do with at least a part-time HGV overtaking ban.
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Originally Posted by Mark'sWRX
Very well said, my man.

I drive (a car) 60k+ a year and this is a huge bug bear of mine. There are also hundreds of HGV drivers in the company, so I know exactly the pressures they have, but there is often no excuse and some of them are just idiots!

The no overtaking sections do work quite well, except that many HGVs ignore the rules. Anyone use the A14 to the East of M1/M6 junction?
Yeah,seen that bit of road,usually treat it with the contempt it deserves,by ignoring it.Yet another ill thought out idea by someone in an office that probably gets the train to work cos he cant drive.Other examples are"lets make all wagons go at the same speed NEARLY,wait till it happens with cars then you,ll see what the problem is.And lets put another wheel on the wagon,we,ll just bolt it on in the middle,no diff,no steering,try that one on a car as well.I drive in excess of 120k a year,mostly fully loaded,and among all the other problems on the road,the biggest one is that everyone thinks that they are the most important person on the road,and i can tell you they are wrong,COS ITS ME.
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You haven't seen angry drivers until you have been sat in a Bedford with boxbody and a 16/24 generator being towed with a big ol combined weight, than travel to Paderborn on one of said no overtaking lanes doing at best 30KMH.

Then and only then will you see true looks of angry truckers lol.
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Ive really noticed over the last few years how the general public seemed to have lost the ability to overtake slow vehicles. Ive been driving a Ford Ranger pickup for a while now and i quite regularly manage to overtake safely, 3-4 cars in a row on straight A roads, whilst they sit there in zombie mode!
If i can safely overtake in that then iam sure the ***** in there tdis could wiz by!!


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