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I'm just wondering how can they actually define what is private or public listening.
Here's an example. Suppose it was a hot sunny day and you were down the beach. The beach is crowded and someone is playing a radio or a CD player. They are only playing it for their own enjoyment but others around them can also listen.
Here's an example. Suppose it was a hot sunny day and you were down the beach. The beach is crowded and someone is playing a radio or a CD player. They are only playing it for their own enjoyment but others around them can also listen.
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Wouldn't need one on non-private land, Scunnered, although it would fall under public nuisance laws if there was a complaint if it was too loud. These guys have an answer for every eventuality, they have to.
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I'm not being arrogant at all. I'm saying that having doubts about who gets the cash is no reason to tell them to "**** off", to determine that they're all "*****" and whatever else you said. If you don't like the system, don't play public music, it really is that staggeringly simple. It's the basis on which all laws are made - they aren't only there for those who agree with them.
There are loads of other issues such as demanding 6 years worth of back payments from companies who had no idea that they should have paid in years gone by and their recent use of much more aggresive tactics has angered many people not just me.
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Its an interesting one this.
My own opinion is any business with <10 employees AND no public access should be exempt.
There is just no benefit to be had from either camp IMHO as the money they spend getting small businesses licensed up does not balance the income they then get. IMHO.
I always tend to visulise the PRS as operating just under the radar - almost a clandestine operation. Not many people know about them, but they will just appear out of the wood work.
Its this low profile that keeps them "off the radar" so to speak.
I think if they went after every single business in the UK they would very quickly cease to exist.
IMHO.
My own opinion is any business with <10 employees AND no public access should be exempt.
There is just no benefit to be had from either camp IMHO as the money they spend getting small businesses licensed up does not balance the income they then get. IMHO.
I always tend to visulise the PRS as operating just under the radar - almost a clandestine operation. Not many people know about them, but they will just appear out of the wood work.
Its this low profile that keeps them "off the radar" so to speak.
I think if they went after every single business in the UK they would very quickly cease to exist.
IMHO.
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Shut up you ****. Why are you always like this when somebody disagrees with you? Somebody else can answer whatever came after that first sentence, as i shan't be reading it. Just **** off if you're going to start talking to me like that. Seriously.
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Don't often see as much ignorance in one post. Nice.
How about you at least read their website before making yourself look stupid?
How about you at least read their website before making yourself look stupid?
I thought I would make myself clear. You have made a few ridiculous, innacurate statements towards me so far 1. above 2. that I don't understand their mandate 3. that I think they are ***** becuase I don't know where that cash goes rather than the real reason I don't like them. 3. You suggested that you need a PRS licence to play public music which is clearly not true.
After the collection of **** you have posted you then try to call me a **** and tell me to **** off, what are you twelve, or is it that you reserve the right to act like a child on SN, the seriously bit at the end is classic. Get a grip and grow up you silly little boy.
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The PRS & PPL are a collection agency for the ARTIST. The workplace is merely catching up with all other areas that have to pay.
If you go into any public area, bar, club etc, you will see a PRS sticker - they pay. The definition of public area is a collection of people.
IMHO, there is no difference between a bar etc and a factory.
The fees are on a sliding scale, so your small-business won't be paying the same as a corporate shop floor.
But for what it's worth, the PRS are anything BUT "jumped up little hitlers" - quite the opposite, very supportive actually, and will do their best to allocate a fee on the size/circumstances.
And yes, I'm a musician who gets royalties from this type of revenue.
Without them, there would be a LOT less music for you to hear.
If you go into any public area, bar, club etc, you will see a PRS sticker - they pay. The definition of public area is a collection of people.
IMHO, there is no difference between a bar etc and a factory.
The fees are on a sliding scale, so your small-business won't be paying the same as a corporate shop floor.
But for what it's worth, the PRS are anything BUT "jumped up little hitlers" - quite the opposite, very supportive actually, and will do their best to allocate a fee on the size/circumstances.
And yes, I'm a musician who gets royalties from this type of revenue.
Without them, there would be a LOT less music for you to hear.
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I'm glad it amused you. Do you think by haughtily saying it's "classic" it makes you look any less of a *****? In case you're in any doubt, it doesn't. And i'm still not going to read whatever points relating to the subject in hand you've made. You define chippy. It's a shame more people haven't made you aware of the fact. Move on, talk to somebody else, do us all a favour.
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I suggest (and shoot me down in flames all you want) that you two discuss your differences and petty insults via pm or on a seperate thread.
As per normal on here when 2 big ego's clash, there is a war of words and it ends up spoiling a decent thread.
No offence, but ffs grow up
As per normal on here when 2 big ego's clash, there is a war of words and it ends up spoiling a decent thread.
No offence, but ffs grow up
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I suggest (and shoot me down in flames all you want) that you two discuss your differences and petty insults via pm or on a seperate thread.
As per normal on here when 2 big ego's clash, there is a war of words and it ends up spoiling a decent thread.
No offence, but ffs grow up
As per normal on here when 2 big ego's clash, there is a war of words and it ends up spoiling a decent thread.
No offence, but ffs grow up
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I suggest (and shoot me down in flames all you want) that you two discuss your differences and petty insults via pm or on a seperate thread.
As per normal on here when 2 big ego's clash, there is a war of words and it ends up spoiling a decent thread.
No offence, but ffs grow up
As per normal on here when 2 big ego's clash, there is a war of words and it ends up spoiling a decent thread.
No offence, but ffs grow up
Separate
One ego, two egos.
But yeah, i've said all i need to say.
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The alternaive to paying PRS FEES??
We use www.rfmradio.co.uk in our business for quality music and entertainment, with NO PRS fees as all the music is royalty free, not your usual "lift music" but unsigned quality singer song writers, presented by professional Djs, so why not give it a try and tune into day.
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We use www.rfmradio.co.uk in our business for quality music and entertainment, with NO PRS fees as all the music is royalty free, not your usual "lift music" but unsigned quality singer song writers, presented by professional Djs, so why not give it a try and tune into day.
Bump,
Hmm i was going to post about RFMradio myself as i have been running it during business hours for the past 5 weeks now.
I bought a cheap 2.0 speaker setup for the work CCTV system and used this mini shoutcast player to auto boot when the cctv machine boots up
Mini Web Radio Player (version: 1.1) by Arpoon - Loïs Bégué
Configured the mini player to only allow RFM Radio, and you are fully legal, i have one speaker in the office with the volume turned down, and the other bolted outside to the side of the carwash building for the customers, they love it, the staff are happy, jobs a gooden.
Cost so far £7 for a cheap set of pc speakers from asda
To be honest, its not really my choice of music, but the stuff i usually listen to would scare the punters away
During christmas i was a bit cheeky and configured it to only run some christmas shoutcast server instead, but the carols started getting right on our **** after the first week
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