Simtek-Whats it worth?
#91
lets start with the basics
the resolution is inferior to most it is only 24x24
not everyone can map them so if you sell your car and the new owner does not want a simtec dealer to map it, then your fu--ed
as above its a primative ecu
all above are facts
please if any of you people can prove otherwise then please do so
the resolution is inferior to most it is only 24x24
not everyone can map them so if you sell your car and the new owner does not want a simtec dealer to map it, then your fu--ed
as above its a primative ecu
all above are facts
please if any of you people can prove otherwise then please do so
#92
But Purple Ronnie what qualifies you to give such 'expert' opinions can you at least let us know what you are running on your car?
As well do you map cars for a living? Plus it is worth noting that a lot of commercial/business programs that run in windows are actually ms-dos based which just using a GUI interface.
As well do you map cars for a living? Plus it is worth noting that a lot of commercial/business programs that run in windows are actually ms-dos based which just using a GUI interface.
#93
lets start with the basics Yes please !
the resolution is inferior to most it is only 24x24 So quantify that in terms of how this restricts it's application compared to other ECU's
not everyone can map them so if you sell your car and the new owner does not want a simtec dealer to map it, then your fu--ed no but anyone worth using for mapping does offer Simtek, and your not f__cked you simply sell it, kerching, and buy a cheap OEM one with an EcuTek Licence.
as above its a primative ecu LoL, hoovers are primitive but they all suck !
all above are facts Yep, unsubstantiated ones
please if any of you people can prove otherwise then please do so You can't disagree with that which is speculation, it's simply a differing opinion. In your case the opinion of a someone without the confidence to post beyond a sock account.
the resolution is inferior to most it is only 24x24 So quantify that in terms of how this restricts it's application compared to other ECU's
not everyone can map them so if you sell your car and the new owner does not want a simtec dealer to map it, then your fu--ed no but anyone worth using for mapping does offer Simtek, and your not f__cked you simply sell it, kerching, and buy a cheap OEM one with an EcuTek Licence.
as above its a primative ecu LoL, hoovers are primitive but they all suck !
all above are facts Yep, unsubstantiated ones
please if any of you people can prove otherwise then please do so You can't disagree with that which is speculation, it's simply a differing opinion. In your case the opinion of a someone without the confidence to post beyond a sock account.
#94
Simtek software is readily available to end user so anyone can map a Simtek ECU - as well Purple Ronnie knows......
Resolution is effectively infinite as ECU interpolates between load sites; personally I find 24x24 plenty.Motec M800 is typically 20x20, GEMS is 14x19, etc, etc...ECU calculates fuel, ignition etc every cylinder event - not much point in doing it any faster -and fuel injection resolution is 0.01mSec, spark resolution is 0.25 degrees.Is that not sufficient?
Resolution is effectively infinite as ECU interpolates between load sites; personally I find 24x24 plenty.Motec M800 is typically 20x20, GEMS is 14x19, etc, etc...ECU calculates fuel, ignition etc every cylinder event - not much point in doing it any faster -and fuel injection resolution is 0.01mSec, spark resolution is 0.25 degrees.Is that not sufficient?
#95
Simtek software is readily available to end user so anyone can map a Simtek ECU - as well Purple Ronnie knows......
Resolution is effectively infinite as ECU interpolates between load sites; personally I find 24x24 plenty.Motec M800 is typically 20x20, GEMS is 14x19, etc, etc...ECU calculates fuel, ignition etc every cylinder event - not much point in doing it any faster -and fuel injection resolution is 0.01mSec, spark resolution is 0.25 degrees.Is that not sufficient?
Resolution is effectively infinite as ECU interpolates between load sites; personally I find 24x24 plenty.Motec M800 is typically 20x20, GEMS is 14x19, etc, etc...ECU calculates fuel, ignition etc every cylinder event - not much point in doing it any faster -and fuel injection resolution is 0.01mSec, spark resolution is 0.25 degrees.Is that not sufficient?
the motec main fuel and ignition maps are 20x40
you say the simtec software is readily available. yes at an additional premium
if i was you i would stop putting faulse statements, its making you look a t-t
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There is no need to slag off other ecu's to promote it, the simtek is a very good ecu, else I wouldn't sell them or run one on one of my cars.
As to the software I think purple wants flash dials and menus rather than actually being able to map an ecu quickly and efficently
Simon
#99
If you read what I said carefully you will see that I said Motec M800 is "typically 20 x 20" insomuch as that what you usually find the mapper has used...
You made the accusation that the Simtek couldn't be mapped except by dealer which is clearly untrue.
Just so I understand your motivation for these rather personal attacks;are you a dissatisfied Simtek customer or just commercially involved with a rival ECU?
If the former then I would like to resolve your issues, if the latter then let us know what you are comparing with.
You made the accusation that the Simtek couldn't be mapped except by dealer which is clearly untrue.
Just so I understand your motivation for these rather personal attacks;are you a dissatisfied Simtek customer or just commercially involved with a rival ECU?
If the former then I would like to resolve your issues, if the latter then let us know what you are comparing with.
#102
The thing is Purple ********, you will never be taken seriously in this thread whilst your hiding behind a false account. There have been a few threads recently where people have not been entirly happy with Products/Tuners but atleast these people have had the minerals to post in their REAL accounts with an argument worthy of a thread....
#103
Errrrrrrr no.
When i said that, it was in relation to him saying he has both on the one he was selling.Hence me saying 'Ideally i just wanted Anti Lag' I wouldn't want to pay extra for somthing i don't want/need.
The MAIN reason i'm getting a Simtek is that JGM uses them and he's the one that will fit it to my car, also i want to go Mafless..the Anti Lag is just a bonus feature..which i want
Get it?
When i said that, it was in relation to him saying he has both on the one he was selling.Hence me saying 'Ideally i just wanted Anti Lag' I wouldn't want to pay extra for somthing i don't want/need.
The MAIN reason i'm getting a Simtek is that JGM uses them and he's the one that will fit it to my car, also i want to go Mafless..the Anti Lag is just a bonus feature..which i want
Get it?
#105
purple ronnie- just cause something is old dosent mean its crap, i think the simtek is an example 'if it ant broke dont fix it'. theres plenty of examples of older things that work still today- ak47, the wheel etc etc etc.
if there was a common pattern of peeps with simteks that have engines going bang id be there with you, but its not reall the case
mos of all a ecu is only as good as the bloke mapping it as we all know
if there was a common pattern of peeps with simteks that have engines going bang id be there with you, but its not reall the case
mos of all a ecu is only as good as the bloke mapping it as we all know
#106
Well, as this one seems fairly well concluded, I hope that everyone can see now that Purple Ronnie is incredibly uninformed, and clearly neither a mapper nor a software programmer.
Can Simtek do the job, Oh boy yes it can! My own car ran 620BHP (at 1.5 Bar) on Simtek several years ago, and the product/software has improved continualy since then!
Andy Hughes recently managed to pull over 600BHP out of his car and it still wasn't mechanically complete at that time either, View this thread here Andy Hughes Time Attack car
Then ask Andy if there were any software related problems in achieving such performance from his Simtek at that point?
In fact, I'm sure Andy Hughes will tell you that there were several very special facilities built into his Simtek ECU and with specially written software, accommodated on his ECU which were not available anywhere else!
I have no doubt Andy will tell you just how good Simtek is, and Tell Purple Ronnie to go sit on something sharp at the same time no doubt?
Mike.
Can Simtek do the job, Oh boy yes it can! My own car ran 620BHP (at 1.5 Bar) on Simtek several years ago, and the product/software has improved continualy since then!
Andy Hughes recently managed to pull over 600BHP out of his car and it still wasn't mechanically complete at that time either, View this thread here Andy Hughes Time Attack car
Then ask Andy if there were any software related problems in achieving such performance from his Simtek at that point?
In fact, I'm sure Andy Hughes will tell you that there were several very special facilities built into his Simtek ECU and with specially written software, accommodated on his ECU which were not available anywhere else!
I have no doubt Andy will tell you just how good Simtek is, and Tell Purple Ronnie to go sit on something sharp at the same time no doubt?
Mike.
#107
[QUOTE=Mike Tuckwood;8913585]Well, as this one seems fairly well concluded, I hope that everyone can see now that Purple Ronnie is incredibly uninformed, and clearly neither a mapper nor a software programmer.
Andy Hughes recently managed to pull over 600BHP out of his car and it still wasn't mechanically complete at that time either, View this thread here Andy Hughes Time Attack car
Then ask Andy if there were any software related problems in achieving such performance from his Simtek at that point?
In fact, I'm sure Andy Hughes will tell you that there were several very special facilities built into his Simtek ECU and with specially written software, accommodated on his ECU which were not available anywhere else!
[QUOTE]
I now own andy's old simtek and he now runs Hydra
Andy Hughes recently managed to pull over 600BHP out of his car and it still wasn't mechanically complete at that time either, View this thread here Andy Hughes Time Attack car
Then ask Andy if there were any software related problems in achieving such performance from his Simtek at that point?
In fact, I'm sure Andy Hughes will tell you that there were several very special facilities built into his Simtek ECU and with specially written software, accommodated on his ECU which were not available anywhere else!
[QUOTE]
I now own andy's old simtek and he now runs Hydra
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Yes i have run the simtek on my car with no problems it made over 600bhp and worked very well probably the only thing that did work on my car at that time . i have just changed to hydra the only reason was for a 8 injector setup as i,m running a bigger turbo next year
#111
Yes i have run the simtek on my car with no problems it made over 600bhp and worked very well probably the only thing that did work on my car at that time . i have just changed to hydra the only reason was for a 8 injector setup as i,m running a bigger turbo next year
Ya should have waited a bit Andy, Simtek are going to make an 8 injector add on, I have a live request in with Simtek for mine as we speak.
Mike.
#113
Eh???! You wanna keep your nose out of **** that dosn't concern you.I didn't make a post so you could start picking at it even though i didn't ask for your opinion and neither did i make it for anyone else other than the OP
This Forum ****s me off somtimes..full of know it all's that most of the time don't know **** all and get invloved in other peoples threads.You ask a technical question and no-one bothers to answer you but make a comment about anything and it turns into a 4 page slanging match.
This Forum ****s me off somtimes..full of know it all's that most of the time don't know **** all and get invloved in other peoples threads.You ask a technical question and no-one bothers to answer you but make a comment about anything and it turns into a 4 page slanging match.
#114
I recently had a guy who drives wrc rally cars take my car round Blyton with the antilag function set up on my autronics ecu......i dont know how aggressively it has been mapped (paul @zen)...but he used it and was suprised how affective it was...once he new it was equipped with antilag it stayed switched on...
So maybe not always a gimmick....well on the Autronics ecu anyway...
So maybe not always a gimmick....well on the Autronics ecu anyway...
Last edited by rooferman; 31 August 2009 at 06:26 PM.
#116
Eh???! You wanna keep your nose out of **** that dosn't concern you.I didn't make a post so you could start picking at it even though i didn't ask for your opinion and neither did i make it for anyone else other than the OP
This Forum ****s me off somtimes..full of know it all's that most of the time don't know **** all and get invloved in other peoples threads.You ask a technical question and no-one bothers to answer you but make a comment about anything and it turns into a 4 page slanging match.
This Forum ****s me off somtimes..full of know it all's that most of the time don't know **** all and get invloved in other peoples threads.You ask a technical question and no-one bothers to answer you but make a comment about anything and it turns into a 4 page slanging match.
#117
You forgot to mention that I too run one. Am currently lying second overall in the Pro Street Drag Series with it, and the guy in 3rd place also runs one that we mapped.
I hope you are not saying if it was a better ECU you would be first. ONLY JOKING.
Simon, don't be so touchy. I never slagged the Apexi which was the ECU of choice at the time. I simply made comparisons of the ECUs abilities particularly for M/Y 93-96 cars and not just Subarus. Things have moved on and I don't feel the wish to rake over some of the underhand, devious, self interested and deplorable behaviour of certain people, not you. I recognised then that the Apexi served a purpose and still serves a sector of the market adequately and I still encourage people to fit them now, in the right circumstances. I would rather help you than hinder you and I don't want to have to remind you of some of what was happening so please don't accuse me unjustly of doing something I have not done and everything in the garden stays rosy mate.
I think when purple onion is identified his agenda and intentions that have clearly backfired will be obvious. Oh and are the errors in his posts deliberate or did he struggle at school?
Last edited by harvey; 31 August 2009 at 08:24 PM.
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I recently had a guy who drives wrc rally cars take my car round Blyton with the antilag function set up on my autronics ecu......i dont know how aggressively it has been mapped (paul @zen)...but he used it and was suprised how affective it was...once he new it was equipped with antilag it stayed switched on...
So maybe not always a gimmick....well on the Autronics ecu anyway...
So maybe not always a gimmick....well on the Autronics ecu anyway...
i thought all anti lag is the same
#120
Christ, some fethers been ruffled here!!
Generally 99% of folk in favour of Simtek.
Purple knobsock, relieve yourself of your sheath and expose your identity, or are your taters inferior
Generally 99% of folk in favour of Simtek.
Purple knobsock, relieve yourself of your sheath and expose your identity, or are your taters inferior