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Old 30 August 2009 | 09:12 PM
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lets start with the basics
the resolution is inferior to most it is only 24x24
not everyone can map them so if you sell your car and the new owner does not want a simtec dealer to map it, then your fu--ed
as above its a primative ecu

all above are facts

please if any of you people can prove otherwise then please do so
Old 30 August 2009 | 09:34 PM
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But Purple Ronnie what qualifies you to give such 'expert' opinions can you at least let us know what you are running on your car?

As well do you map cars for a living? Plus it is worth noting that a lot of commercial/business programs that run in windows are actually ms-dos based which just using a GUI interface.
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lets start with the basics Yes please !
the resolution is inferior to most it is only 24x24 So quantify that in terms of how this restricts it's application compared to other ECU's
not everyone can map them so if you sell your car and the new owner does not want a simtec dealer to map it, then your fu--ed no but anyone worth using for mapping does offer Simtek, and your not f__cked you simply sell it, kerching, and buy a cheap OEM one with an EcuTek Licence.

as above its a primative ecu LoL, hoovers are primitive but they all suck !

all above are facts Yep, unsubstantiated ones

please if any of you people can prove otherwise then please do so You can't disagree with that which is speculation, it's simply a differing opinion. In your case the opinion of a someone without the confidence to post beyond a sock account.
Old 30 August 2009 | 10:03 PM
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Simtek software is readily available to end user so anyone can map a Simtek ECU - as well Purple Ronnie knows......
Resolution is effectively infinite as ECU interpolates between load sites; personally I find 24x24 plenty.Motec M800 is typically 20x20, GEMS is 14x19, etc, etc...ECU calculates fuel, ignition etc every cylinder event - not much point in doing it any faster -and fuel injection resolution is 0.01mSec, spark resolution is 0.25 degrees.Is that not sufficient?
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Originally Posted by steve rally
Simtek software is readily available to end user so anyone can map a Simtek ECU - as well Purple Ronnie knows......
Resolution is effectively infinite as ECU interpolates between load sites; personally I find 24x24 plenty.Motec M800 is typically 20x20, GEMS is 14x19, etc, etc...ECU calculates fuel, ignition etc every cylinder event - not much point in doing it any faster -and fuel injection resolution is 0.01mSec, spark resolution is 0.25 degrees.Is that not sufficient?
incorrect

the motec main fuel and ignition maps are 20x40

you say the simtec software is readily available. yes at an additional premium

if i was you i would stop putting faulse statements, its making you look a t-t
Old 30 August 2009 | 11:24 PM
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Before you go off calling any more people t__ts, are you finally going to get round to telling us what you run, or would run, in your car?
Old 30 August 2009 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by harvey
Simon Roe who was dead anti the Simtek when it was being launched now maps them nearly every day of the week, sells them and runs one in his own car.
no I was not.. I was against people (mainly you) slagging off other ecu's to promote the SimTek and imho the other ecus were unjustly being slagged off, but that is in the past, or at least I thought it was until you start bring it back up again.
There is no need to slag off other ecu's to promote it, the simtek is a very good ecu, else I wouldn't sell them or run one on one of my cars.

As to the software I think purple wants flash dials and menus rather than actually being able to map an ecu quickly and efficently

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Old 31 August 2009 | 03:12 AM
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What a great thread this is!
Old 31 August 2009 | 09:37 AM
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If you read what I said carefully you will see that I said Motec M800 is "typically 20 x 20" insomuch as that what you usually find the mapper has used...

You made the accusation that the Simtek couldn't be mapped except by dealer which is clearly untrue.

Just so I understand your motivation for these rather personal attacks;are you a dissatisfied Simtek customer or just commercially involved with a rival ECU?
If the former then I would like to resolve your issues, if the latter then let us know what you are comparing with.
Old 31 August 2009 | 10:56 AM
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come on purple, what ecu are you running?

hope you're not scared
Old 31 August 2009 | 11:20 AM
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I think PR is running Simtec but an ebay knock off version with a free magnetic fuel saver and is pis5ed that his engine went bang
Old 31 August 2009 | 11:59 AM
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The thing is Purple ********, you will never be taken seriously in this thread whilst your hiding behind a false account. There have been a few threads recently where people have not been entirly happy with Products/Tuners but atleast these people have had the minerals to post in their REAL accounts with an argument worthy of a thread....
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
err how about here

Errrrrrrr no.


When i said that, it was in relation to him saying he has both on the one he was selling.Hence me saying 'Ideally i just wanted Anti Lag' I wouldn't want to pay extra for somthing i don't want/need.

The MAIN reason i'm getting a Simtek is that JGM uses them and he's the one that will fit it to my car, also i want to go Mafless..the Anti Lag is just a bonus feature..which i want

Get it?
Old 31 August 2009 | 12:09 PM
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Then you need to explain your self more clearly
Old 31 August 2009 | 12:19 PM
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purple ronnie- just cause something is old dosent mean its crap, i think the simtek is an example 'if it ant broke dont fix it'. theres plenty of examples of older things that work still today- ak47, the wheel etc etc etc.
if there was a common pattern of peeps with simteks that have engines going bang id be there with you, but its not reall the case
mos of all a ecu is only as good as the bloke mapping it as we all know
Old 31 August 2009 | 02:15 PM
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Well, as this one seems fairly well concluded, I hope that everyone can see now that Purple Ronnie is incredibly uninformed, and clearly neither a mapper nor a software programmer.

Can Simtek do the job, Oh boy yes it can! My own car ran 620BHP (at 1.5 Bar) on Simtek several years ago, and the product/software has improved continualy since then!

Andy Hughes recently managed to pull over 600BHP out of his car and it still wasn't mechanically complete at that time either, View this thread here Andy Hughes Time Attack car

Then ask Andy if there were any software related problems in achieving such performance from his Simtek at that point?

In fact, I'm sure Andy Hughes will tell you that there were several very special facilities built into his Simtek ECU and with specially written software, accommodated on his ECU which were not available anywhere else!

I have no doubt Andy will tell you just how good Simtek is, and Tell Purple Ronnie to go sit on something sharp at the same time no doubt?


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Old 31 August 2009 | 02:19 PM
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[QUOTE=Mike Tuckwood;8913585]Well, as this one seems fairly well concluded, I hope that everyone can see now that Purple Ronnie is incredibly uninformed, and clearly neither a mapper nor a software programmer.

Andy Hughes recently managed to pull over 600BHP out of his car and it still wasn't mechanically complete at that time either, View this thread here Andy Hughes Time Attack car

Then ask Andy if there were any software related problems in achieving such performance from his Simtek at that point?

In fact, I'm sure Andy Hughes will tell you that there were several very special facilities built into his Simtek ECU and with specially written software, accommodated on his ECU which were not available anywhere else!

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I now own andy's old simtek and he now runs Hydra
Old 31 August 2009 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by boozydave
on the rollers is better, safer and legal to top revs in all gears

where can you legally map properly on the road? 6500rpm in 4th, legally, don't think so.
Mine was mapped legally on the road
Old 31 August 2009 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wrighty338
I now own andy's old simtek and he now runs Hydra
Yes, so I understand, doesn't alter in any way the point about SimTek ECU's ability to do what it's supposed to do. (and for A lot less Money than Hydra).


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Old 31 August 2009 | 02:39 PM
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Yes i have run the simtek on my car with no problems it made over 600bhp and worked very well probably the only thing that did work on my car at that time . i have just changed to hydra the only reason was for a 8 injector setup as i,m running a bigger turbo next year
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Originally Posted by andyscoobym3
Yes i have run the simtek on my car with no problems it made over 600bhp and worked very well probably the only thing that did work on my car at that time . i have just changed to hydra the only reason was for a 8 injector setup as i,m running a bigger turbo next year
See, I told ya.
Ya should have waited a bit Andy, Simtek are going to make an 8 injector add on, I have a live request in with Simtek for mine as we speak.


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Originally Posted by Mike Tuckwood
See, I told ya.
Ya should have waited a bit Andy, Simtek are going to make an 8 injector add on, I have a live request in with Simtek for mine as we speak.


Mike.
i know the 8 injector thing with the simtec is nearly in place mate.

but i didnt realy no how long it would be, and you no me mike, cant wait for anything want it all yesterday, lol

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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Then you need to explain your self more clearly
Eh???! You wanna keep your nose out of **** that dosn't concern you.I didn't make a post so you could start picking at it even though i didn't ask for your opinion and neither did i make it for anyone else other than the OP

This Forum ****s me off somtimes..full of know it all's that most of the time don't know **** all and get invloved in other peoples threads.You ask a technical question and no-one bothers to answer you but make a comment about anything and it turns into a 4 page slanging match.
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I recently had a guy who drives wrc rally cars take my car round Blyton with the antilag function set up on my autronics ecu......i dont know how aggressively it has been mapped (paul @zen)...but he used it and was suprised how affective it was...once he new it was equipped with antilag it stayed switched on...

So maybe not always a gimmick....well on the Autronics ecu anyway...

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Old 31 August 2009 | 06:29 PM
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Terry Buckles TA car was running 621 or was it 618bhp on a simtek also a couple of sessions ago
Old 31 August 2009 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AlanPPP
Eh???! You wanna keep your nose out of **** that dosn't concern you.I didn't make a post so you could start picking at it even though i didn't ask for your opinion and neither did i make it for anyone else other than the OP

This Forum ****s me off somtimes..full of know it all's that most of the time don't know **** all and get invloved in other peoples threads.You ask a technical question and no-one bothers to answer you but make a comment about anything and it turns into a 4 page slanging match.
your spot on witht that
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You forgot to mention that I too run one. Am currently lying second overall in the Pro Street Drag Series with it, and the guy in 3rd place also runs one that we mapped.
Sorry Martyn. I did not know of your success so belated congratulations.
I hope you are not saying if it was a better ECU you would be first. ONLY JOKING.

Simon, don't be so touchy. I never slagged the Apexi which was the ECU of choice at the time. I simply made comparisons of the ECUs abilities particularly for M/Y 93-96 cars and not just Subarus. Things have moved on and I don't feel the wish to rake over some of the underhand, devious, self interested and deplorable behaviour of certain people, not you. I recognised then that the Apexi served a purpose and still serves a sector of the market adequately and I still encourage people to fit them now, in the right circumstances. I would rather help you than hinder you and I don't want to have to remind you of some of what was happening so please don't accuse me unjustly of doing something I have not done and everything in the garden stays rosy mate.

I think when purple onion is identified his agenda and intentions that have clearly backfired will be obvious. Oh and are the errors in his posts deliberate or did he struggle at school?

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Originally Posted by rooferman
I recently had a guy who drives wrc rally cars take my car round Blyton with the antilag function set up on my autronics ecu......i dont know how aggressively it has been mapped (paul @zen)...but he used it and was suprised how affective it was...once he new it was equipped with antilag it stayed switched on...

So maybe not always a gimmick....well on the Autronics ecu anyway...


i thought all anti lag is the same
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Purple Ronnie sounds like a bit of a tool...
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Christ, some fethers been ruffled here!!
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