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Old 02 September 2009 | 09:09 PM
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...possibly next step front mount but ill see how it goes first...
Yeah, I wouldn't get a FM until you decide on getting a new ECU/supp. mods/remap. You'd be 'wasting' quite a chunk of the FM's value if you got it now and just ran it with the PP.

Just get the FM when you're ready to move on from the PP chip...

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Originally Posted by b13bat
That is indeed exellent news, half price!!

You will i am sure feel the difference straight away.


You say your male and red blooded but then call yourself 'lucy'
that was just a slight missed key on the keyboard, im only a two finger tapper on the keyboard . i only a ruff **** road worker, but i get the pleasure of ruining peoples lifes by putting double yellow lines down and speed camera markings in unforseen places
Old 02 September 2009 | 10:22 PM
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that was just a slight missed key on the keyboard, im only a two finger tapper on the keyboard . i only a ruff **** road worker, but i get the pleasure of ruining peoples lifes by putting double yellow lines down and speed camera markings in unforseen places
Yeah yeah, whatever luv.

Ruff **** road worker ruining my life, i'm a trucker and you people don't understand, i've got a job to do.
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i dont suppose any one knows about timing belts, my friend who has now sold his ej20 bugeye has a brand new genuine belt that he is trying to sell to me. are they the same belts i would phone subaru but id doubt they would tell me it would fit because that would be top secret of course.
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...i get the pleasure of ruining peoples lifes by putting double yellow lines down and speed camera markings in unforseen places
The enemy! ...

We won't be so forthcoming with any further help now!

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Yeah, i would think so, it's for the EJ20 so can't see a problem.
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Originally Posted by b13bat
Yeah yeah, whatever luv.

Ruff **** road worker ruining my life, i'm a trucker and you people don't understand, i've got a job to do.
i know about you truckers swerving all about the roads while trying to put your tights while stearing with your belly i have to drive a tiny rigid to

so on a serious point all the timing marks should be right eh
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Yeah they'll be the same mate.

Try shopping on line for one, they are all listed as the same, The kits are different but thats down to the tensioner ect.
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I run a FMIC, PP chip and a dawes device in a 1995 WRX. You would expect the car to run lean with a FMIC but the PP chip runs rich anyway as a safety feature so fuelling is still on the rich side. Used the dawes device to keep the boost at 1.1 bar. Achieved 303bhp + 290 ft/lbs of torque on the rollers with everthing running as well as it should.
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N Scooby that's excellent.

And nice to know there's plenty of headroom in Scott's chip re. the fuelling to allow even a FMIC as well!!!
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thats good to hear n scoob, so there will be room for the fmic one day with no problems of running lean . ive done a quick search on a dawes device, am i right in thinking its a bleed valve / manual boost controller
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Yeah, its a 'simple' boost controller that uses an internal sprung valve to control boost. The tighter it's screwed up, the more boost that's required to overcome the compressed spring's tension... and then continuing on to the wastegate actuator...

Thread here explains more and shows how it's installed, etc.:-

https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...es-device.html

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Not sure how it works to be honest. It fits between the turbo and the actuator. It is a manual boost controller that I do know.

When the car was on the rollers it didn't quite make the 1.1 bar that it should have done with the PP chip (the chip raises boost cut to about 1.4 bar I think). So a dawes device was fitted to give me the 1.1 bar which worked out at 296 bhp. Obviously a small tweak was then done to make the magic 300 ! Could have eeked it out a bit more until we started to hit boost cut but really wasn't worth it for extra 10bhp and may well have started to get lean at the top on the 380's. Everthing was working as it should and I left with a bit smile on my face

Edit: All answered above ^^^^^^^^^ Dam my slow typing!!

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Old 03 September 2009 | 05:06 PM
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Just a quick hijack - Ive got a chip on my car and when I first fitted it the car ran up to 1.1bar no probs.
It now will only make 1bar (1 year later) and all Ive really changed since is a centre pipe on the exhaust - anyone know why????
In for the de-cat up pipe tomorrow - hope this will help??
Also - if the boost will not go back to 1.1 - should I get a bleed valve or meerly adjust the actuator??
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so it basicaly its a bleed valve, i did have one fitted to my car but i removed it as im not to keen on little devices that bodge the boost up. my mate tried to fit his own fcd and a bleed valve a few years back and not long after the turbo went bang, sucked all the oil out of the sump and chucked it out the exhaust. it was good for me because i bought the car off him and broke it for spares and doubled my money

as for scooby72 im guessing your not making your boost target because your exhaust is more free flowing than previos, or your actuator is a little tied. the uppipe should aid spool up times but i dont think you will see a rise in boost. you can ajust your actuator rod to make it shorter but only do half a turn at a time to get your boost target.
Old 03 September 2009 | 06:23 PM
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Cheers bud - I rekon the actuator is prob getting a little long in the tooth - prob time for a turbo service/recon too.
My first worry is the garage trashing the lambda sensors tomorrow when they fit the downpipe!
Hey ho - and so it goes on - that relentless money pit!! hahahahahahaha!!!
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oh yes there's no sutch thing as spare money when you have a scoob
if you need a lambda sensor get a bosch ls02 there only £48 and i think you can run with out the cat sensor. hope it goes well, there's plenty of help on here to see you through the bad times .
Old 03 September 2009 | 07:17 PM
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Cheers for that matey - Im a little aprehensive about the sensors.
Ive got two places for them - the secon being the cat sensor i guess - do I just leave that one off then u rekon??
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Originally Posted by dbay
so it basicaly its a bleed valve...
The DD doesn't constantly bleed air pressure away like a bleed valve does. Instead, the air pressure acts against a sprung valve... but the end result is the same!

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Originally Posted by scooby72
Cheers for that matey - Im a little aprehensive about the sensors.
Ive got two places for them - the secon being the cat sensor i guess - do I just leave that one off then u rekon??
mine is running with it in, i did have a problem with it when i fitted my decat down pipe, the sensor moves about 10mm on its sleve where it fits into the exhaust. it brought my cel light on because it had moved in to the exhaust. i just tied it back so i couldnt move and ive had no problems since. i read a thred on here the other day saying it doesnt need to be fitted in to the exhaust but i think it was still connected to the loom just tied back in the engine bay.
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Originally Posted by joz8968
The DD doesn't constantly bleed air pressure away like a bleed valve does. Instead, the air pressure acts against a sprung valve... but the end result is the same!
cheers joz, i thought that might be the case. hopfuly the pp chip will turn up tomorrow, so ill see what its boosting at with the chip fitted, ill probably have to knock it down a little as some one in the past has messed with the actuator rod in the quest for boost but im sure it will be ok.
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Originally Posted by dbay
mine is running with it in, i did have a problem with it when i fitted my decat down pipe, the sensor moves about 10mm on its sleve where it fits into the exhaust. it brought my cel light on because it had moved in to the exhaust. i just tied it back so i couldnt move and ive had no problems since. i read a thred on here the other day saying it doesnt need to be fitted in to the exhaust but i think it was still connected to the loom just tied back in the engine bay.
Appreciate the advice from all -thanks!!!!!!
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Should have put in my spec I've also a full de-cat!!
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Just dropped her off at the garage and passed on the advice - Theyre gonna make sure the sensor cant travel about - so fingers crossed......
will just have to make an adjustment to the actuator and modify the heat sheild over the weekend and all being well - more horses faster spool and back to 1.1 bar boost!!
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