DYK

You know what your right,when i was young my daddy said to me hold out both hands so i did.He put 150 quid in one hand and 450 in the other,he said which would you like to have bearing in mind this is going back to early 1980's, i said the 450 of course.He then said go to school do well and you can earn double that..well ive been earning it but for **** seems now if you do well the more tax you pay,if you scrounge on the dole you get everything.One of my mates is a Doctor and and spent yrs at Uni,i think he now pays something like 600 pound in tax a week.What are we still doing living in this country,no wonder most of the nation is knecking bottles of wine down and getting drunk..

bodgeit

Yeah! b inge rinkin getmy vote,... /http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:bbs.scoobynet.com/get/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

phil84

ATTENTION!!!!!!

I heard on the radio today about the reason why they freed the Libyan guy from prison for the what happened @ Lockerbie

His release helped in secure of an oil deal or something

Petrol especially is appauling and dont think it is going to get any better.

Still my old man drives tankers delivering to petrol stations

P&N Scooby

I filled the scoob up yesterday, which should last me a couple of weeks. 2.3p fuel duty rise (including tax on the tax) happens on the 1st September, but the AA are saying it could go up by as much as 5p a litre within 2 weeks!!! Happy days!!

Chip

I do now.

Chip

hodgy0_2

petrol is relatively cheap these days


the "real" price is £1.30 a liter i am afraid

Boro

iTrader: (1)

60,000,000 people and we cant do a thing about it. You gotta laugh at this country, lol.

The Chief

To be honest i dont think the majority of people especially on here are that bothered about petrol going up.

Boro

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I was going to say, "i think you're right" but in actual fact, i KNOW you're right. For every 100 people that complain, you might get 1 who would do something about it. The other 99 just expect everyone else to solve the problem for them.

But that laziness is what the government relys on to shaft us. You'd think now we all have the power of the internet, it would be a piece of p!ss to MAKE the government reduce duty, especially in the current climate.

I know we're all capable. Remember a couple of weeks back, Orange said they were changing their t&c's which left a get out clause for customers to terminate.

They soon back tracked when it went viral thanks to internet forums (like this one) and customers started to leave in their 1000's.

So, who's gonna start the internet revolution?

The Chief

Well as some know on here i organized a fuel protest to London, out of the paltry 300 people that signed up, i think 20 at the most turned up. People just couldn't be arsed, had to go shopping etc, etc. and that was before the police started getting arsey with us at south mimms services.

The other group we was meeting up with from Oxford was turned away by the police and were threatened with arrest if they carried on.

Police state - Oh yes.

Boro

iTrader: (1)

Sounds about right. I joined a rolling protest on the A30 in Cornwall. Miles and miles of traffic. Went really well, got loads of publicity in the media but did it really change anything?

Protests are one thing but IMO, unless they are violent and cause massive publicity all over the world, it just gets swept under the carpet and is soon forgotten.

Someone needs to think of a clever way to protest that cant be policed effecttively.

The Chief

Dont get me wrong the police at the services up until South Mimms were great, kept telling us as motorists we're right behind you, as soon as we got to South Mimms Mr Inspector told me in no uncertain terms if we blocked the motorway they would pull us over check teh cars and take off the road any that they deemed unroadworthy, and judging by the Scoobs present who had BIG exhausts and tints i agreed to his requests - he went away and we did a go slow anyway.

Boro

iTrader: (1)

I think protests are just too much work for most people. Like you said 300 people, only 20 turned up. Thats 300 people that are pissed off enough to feel like doing something about it, but only 20 that will actually follow it through.

Need to think of a way that all 300 people can do something about it which doesnt involve moving off their a$$ lol

Leslie

The poncy PC Plonkers in control at the moment even if they are on an extended holiday don't give a stuff what the people want and since they are control freaks they will do just as they want and to hell with the rest of us!

Les

MattW

Petrol up 2.3p tonight

BBC NEWS | Business | Fuel duty to rise from midnight

hodgy0_2

why should we get cheap petrol

the market sets the price

we pay a fair % tax on it -- but unlike europe we do not have road tolls

and we pay, as a portion of GDP, lower taxes than most of Europe

so if we have cheap subsidised petrol, where is the shortfall in Tax going to come from?

The Chief

Let me start.

The MPs fiddles could be cut back.

All the workshy who fiddle the system and the people on disability that dont really need it need to get back to work, going to the post office everyday i see people claiming benefits knowing damn well they haven't any intentions to look or get a job - i'd say a large proportion struggle to speak English. Some have motors i can only dream of - so something is going on.

Cut a lot of these public sector jobs, not Nurses or anything like that but these middle managment jobs that dont actually serve a purpose - have a look in the back on the Guardian - you'll see what i mean.

That would be a start.

Stop these beaurecratic benefit sucking people who exclaim 'its what i'm entitled to' makes me sick.

Wurzel

iTrader: (1)

V-Power was €1.51.9 last time I filled up so you lot are not as hard done by as you make out.

To save you having to work it out for yourselves that is around 1.34 a litre in your money.

hodgy0_2

yes all valid -- but would bring in peanuts in the grand scheme of things


fantasy finance i,m afraid -- look at the US model, the land of small government, 40% of the population live in caravans

GMballistic

iTrader: (1)

Just some more info;
Motorists suffer 2p rise in fuel duty as first of five tax increases - Times Online

The Chief

I know where you coming from but as for peanuts hmmm i'm not so sure. ok just say for arguments sake we had a major crackdown on benefits.

I'm not 100% but i think benefits account for something like £150 billion, if you could cut that by a third - well it doesn't take a genius to work that out.

We pay nearly £27 billion in fuel duty alone and taxation on motorists in general accounts for £46 billion yet only 8 billion is put back into the transport infrastructure.

The truth is the taxation that the average working bloke pays to run a car and what he gets taxed on wages is propping up the massive drain on the country that benefits create plus the massive over expenditure on public services.

We need to make cuts now and it will take a brave party to do it.

hodgy0_2

chief -- the uk and the us governments have bailed out the banking industry to the tune of several trillion pounds in the last 2 years

a few dole scroungers and walking wounded really is not the issue - imo

well, unless you listen to the bankers, but then they would say that wouldn't they

cster

It's just tax really.
You should have a warm feeling in your heart when you fill up.
You are helping to pay for all of the second rate ****e that the government provides for us all.
Socialism ain't no free lunch.

cster

At roughly 70% tax?
You are quite right though - a change of government will change nothing.
Too much vested interest in the status quo IMO.

The Chief

Dont i know it!

MikeCardiff

iTrader: (2)

2p a litre !!!

That means if I fill my car up from empty its going to cost me £1.20 more !!!

Oh no, how will I manage ?

This is why people dont really care a) because protesting will do no good at all, and make no difference, and b) the increase isnt actually that much.

If people were that bothered about the cost of petrol, or it really was going to dent their finances that badly, they would work out ways to use the car less, but because everyone like the convenience of driving, and very few people want to do car sharing to get to work etc... it won't happen.

It does make me laugh a bit having a thread about petrol prices on a forum where most of the members have cars that drink petrol like its going out of fashion

GC8WRX

Fair % tax? are you mad?


Our governmemt is the reason we have massive petrol prices, they take 75% of every pound we spend on petrol, get them to take 25% and our petrol would be much cheaper!

hughes741

2p a litre might not sound much but considering it was 85p a litre not too long ago we are paying an extra £12.50 a tank due to all these 2p hikes

Gear Head

iTrader: (2)

At £0.85 a liter the exchange rate was near as damn it $2 to £1. Oil was also around half of what is now, at around $35 a barrel. So, since the October/Nov last year, we have lost 25% value of our £ and oil has doubled in price.

Do the math!

Funkii Munkii

0.60p/Litre

It's a fookin disgrace, 10 months ago it was 0.47p/Lire, bloody Labour Govt