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08 September 2009, 01:05 PM
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what would you say is a fair rate a week to him and myself as this is what he has asked me to come back to him with..?
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08 September 2009, 06:34 PM
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6*2*12 = 144 which is the mileage / 25 (mpg) = 5.76 * (1.06 * 4.55 [price of fuel]) = £27.78 in fuel per week
Ins £300 pa, servicing £500 pa, tyres £100 pa, rfl £150 pa = £1050/52 = £20 pw
Not taking into account cost of vehicle & depreciation...
So he was roughly providing you a benefit equivalent to £47.75 per week NET of Tax, so even more roughly was worth £60 per week in Gross Salary
He will probably baulk at £3K pa as the cost to him was just the fuel on which he would save VAT + a bit of additional wear/tear.
Depends how well you know him and how good a negotiator you are but if you put it all out in black and white, he can't really argue the figures but change any of the above to show real costs you might have & don't over egg it. I reckon you could start at stating the £3k, explain it wasn't realistic to expect him to pay that but you'd go £2250 and work from there maybe? It's up to you!
Ins £300 pa, servicing £500 pa, tyres £100 pa, rfl £150 pa = £1050/52 = £20 pw
Not taking into account cost of vehicle & depreciation...
So he was roughly providing you a benefit equivalent to £47.75 per week NET of Tax, so even more roughly was worth £60 per week in Gross Salary
He will probably baulk at £3K pa as the cost to him was just the fuel on which he would save VAT + a bit of additional wear/tear.
Depends how well you know him and how good a negotiator you are but if you put it all out in black and white, he can't really argue the figures but change any of the above to show real costs you might have & don't over egg it. I reckon you could start at stating the £3k, explain it wasn't realistic to expect him to pay that but you'd go £2250 and work from there maybe? It's up to you!
08 September 2009, 06:56 PM
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not sure what the 6*2*12 is ?
My calcs are simpler
6 * 2 * 5 (Assumes 6 miles twice a day, 5 days a week)
60 Miles a week
We get 40p a mile all in (something like that) to cover cost of car on business mileage.
60 * 40p = £24 a week.
My calcs are simpler
6 * 2 * 5 (Assumes 6 miles twice a day, 5 days a week)
60 Miles a week
We get 40p a mile all in (something like that) to cover cost of car on business mileage.
60 * 40p = £24 a week.
08 September 2009, 07:06 PM
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Puff, where does the 144 miles come from
6 miles each way x 5 days is 60 miles a week. Probably £10 a week in fuel it was costing to get to and from the place of work, to 900 miles a week
around £80-£90. At £80 a week thats over £3k extra at current fuel prices for your boss.
Blue scooby how big is your work and what buisness is it?
Aaron
6 miles each way x 5 days is 60 miles a week. Probably £10 a week in fuel it was costing to get to and from the place of work, to 900 miles a week around £80-£90. At £80 a week thats over £3k extra at current fuel prices for your boss.Blue scooby how big is your work and what buisness is it?
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08 September 2009, 08:32 PM
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08 September 2009, 10:35 PM
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09 September 2009, 12:33 PM
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scaffolding is what we do....he got 3 men on and we clear him around £1200 to £2000 aday...
we been talking somemore and he is thinking it over on an eatra £15 aday if i use my own car...i think that is a fair deal...
we been talking somemore and he is thinking it over on an eatra £15 aday if i use my own car...i think that is a fair deal...
10 September 2009, 09:12 AM
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Typical van driver ! Why did you move 80 miles away or a 160mile round trip from where you work ? I bet you thought " Dont worry, Boss will pay for my fuel...."
Simple maths.
6 miles a trip/ 12 m/p/d X 5 (days)= 60 m/p/w / 30 (avg mpg ) = 2 gals @ £5p/g = £10.
80 miles a trip / 160 m/p/d x 5 (days) = 800 m/p/w / 30 (avg mpg ) = 26 gals @ £5 a/g = £130
£130 - £12 = £118. 52 weeks - 4 (holiday) = 48 - 1 (BHolidays) = 47 x £118 = £5664.
So, because you've now moved 80 miles away, are you worth £5600 more ?? Mmmm becareful here, as in these times, might be cheaper for him, for you to get all moody and leave !
Like I said, typical van driver.
SBK
Simple maths.
6 miles a trip/ 12 m/p/d X 5 (days)= 60 m/p/w / 30 (avg mpg ) = 2 gals @ £5p/g = £10.
80 miles a trip / 160 m/p/d x 5 (days) = 800 m/p/w / 30 (avg mpg ) = 26 gals @ £5 a/g = £130
£130 - £12 = £118. 52 weeks - 4 (holiday) = 48 - 1 (BHolidays) = 47 x £118 = £5664.
So, because you've now moved 80 miles away, are you worth £5600 more ?? Mmmm becareful here, as in these times, might be cheaper for him, for you to get all moody and leave !
Like I said, typical van driver.
SBK
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10 September 2009, 12:55 PM
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Typical van driver ! Why did you move 80 miles away or a 160mile round trip from where you work ? I bet you thought " Dont worry, Boss will pay for my fuel...."
Simple maths.
6 miles a trip/ 12 m/p/d X 5 (days)= 60 m/p/w / 30 (avg mpg ) = 2 gals @ £5p/g = £10.
80 miles a trip / 160 m/p/d x 5 (days) = 800 m/p/w / 30 (avg mpg ) = 26 gals @ £5 a/g = £130
£130 - £12 = £118. 52 weeks - 4 (holiday) = 48 - 1 (BHolidays) = 47 x £118 = £5664.
So, because you've now moved 80 miles away, are you worth £5600 more ?? Mmmm becareful here, as in these times, might be cheaper for him, for you to get all moody and leave !
Like I said, typical van driver.
SBK
Simple maths.
6 miles a trip/ 12 m/p/d X 5 (days)= 60 m/p/w / 30 (avg mpg ) = 2 gals @ £5p/g = £10.
80 miles a trip / 160 m/p/d x 5 (days) = 800 m/p/w / 30 (avg mpg ) = 26 gals @ £5 a/g = £130
£130 - £12 = £118. 52 weeks - 4 (holiday) = 48 - 1 (BHolidays) = 47 x £118 = £5664.
So, because you've now moved 80 miles away, are you worth £5600 more ?? Mmmm becareful here, as in these times, might be cheaper for him, for you to get all moody and leave !
Like I said, typical van driver.
SBK
10 September 2009, 03:01 PM
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