BNP to get their say on Question time!
24 October 2009, 08:10 AM
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I'm only going to make one post on this thread, that only because otherwise I get drawn into endless arguments, and life is too short.
1) People keep saying the programme was biased, and put together to make NG look bad, he isn't really a racist.
This guy has denied the holocaust, said hitler went a little too far, believes homosexuality should be illegal (has only moderated that view for political appeal recently), formed links with the KKK.
He goes on about muslims but HE was the one who went to form links with some of the most way out muslims in the world, ie Colonel Gadaffi and Louis Farrakhan (if you haven't heard of the last person google him, you'll find it interesting)
He is also a convicted criminal, and some of his main advisors/colleagues as well
How do you MAKE someone like this look bad, he is what he is.
2) Why would you find somebody in a veil threatening or insulting? What narrow minded bigotry. Are there hoardes of women in veils attacking and causing havoc up and down the country?? Maybe people find it offensive when 16 year old girls expose their fat flabby **** and ***** on their way to the pubs and clubs on a saturday night, but that's the freedom of expression.
1) People keep saying the programme was biased, and put together to make NG look bad, he isn't really a racist.
This guy has denied the holocaust, said hitler went a little too far, believes homosexuality should be illegal (has only moderated that view for political appeal recently), formed links with the KKK.
He goes on about muslims but HE was the one who went to form links with some of the most way out muslims in the world, ie Colonel Gadaffi and Louis Farrakhan (if you haven't heard of the last person google him, you'll find it interesting)
He is also a convicted criminal, and some of his main advisors/colleagues as well
How do you MAKE someone like this look bad, he is what he is.
2) Why would you find somebody in a veil threatening or insulting? What narrow minded bigotry. Are there hoardes of women in veils attacking and causing havoc up and down the country?? Maybe people find it offensive when 16 year old girls expose their fat flabby **** and ***** on their way to the pubs and clubs on a saturday night, but that's the freedom of expression.
24 October 2009, 09:35 AM
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I'd hate to answer that or implement it. Prevent Brits from travelling abroad for business or leisure? Stop immigration? Stop asylum seekers enter the country? Stop foreign tourists from entering the country? Ridding the UK of everty foreign embassy? The end of the UK itself and going back to seperate countries? Imagine how bad it would be if I could not visit my relatives in Wales or my best friend in Scotland?
The point is if you have a British passport you wont have any issues coming and going through border control. If you have a valid visa likewise. However if you attempt to enter the UK without a British passport or a valid visa then you are subjected to the US stlye interrogation to prove why you are entering the country, how long you are staying etc. Of course with the ridiculous EU rules on movement of people within the EU member states British passports needs to be replaced with EU passport holders which I strongly believe needs reversing. It is this policy which has caused a massive influx of people from the EU which our public services can not cope with.
As for asylum seekers that needs tightening up massively. Asylum should be sort in the first country of the EU the person enters, not carry on to the UK through many countries to get to the UK. All those at the French coast wanting to get to Britain and claim asylum should be claiming asylum in France. They should not be let across to the UK. I believe it is only a tiny proportion that arrive directly in the UK from their country of origin as that would involve travelling by plane which most can't do due to cost and getting through passport control in their country of origin in the first place.
24 October 2009, 10:16 AM
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I'm only going to make one post on this thread, that only because otherwise I get drawn into endless arguments, and life is too short.
1) People keep saying the programme was biased, and put together to make NG look bad, he isn't really a racist.
This guy has denied the holocaust, said hitler went a little too far, believes homosexuality should be illegal (has only moderated that view for political appeal recently), formed links with the KKK.
He goes on about muslims but HE was the one who went to form links with some of the most way out muslims in the world, ie Colonel Gadaffi and Louis Farrakhan (if you haven't heard of the last person google him, you'll find it interesting)
He is also a convicted criminal, and some of his main advisors/colleagues as well
How do you MAKE someone like this look bad, he is what he is.
2) Why would you find somebody in a veil threatening or insulting? What narrow minded bigotry. Are there hoardes of women in veils attacking and causing havoc up and down the country?? Maybe people find it offensive when 16 year old girls expose their fat flabby **** and ***** on their way to the pubs and clubs on a saturday night, but that's the freedom of expression.
1) People keep saying the programme was biased, and put together to make NG look bad, he isn't really a racist.
This guy has denied the holocaust, said hitler went a little too far, believes homosexuality should be illegal (has only moderated that view for political appeal recently), formed links with the KKK.
He goes on about muslims but HE was the one who went to form links with some of the most way out muslims in the world, ie Colonel Gadaffi and Louis Farrakhan (if you haven't heard of the last person google him, you'll find it interesting)
He is also a convicted criminal, and some of his main advisors/colleagues as well
How do you MAKE someone like this look bad, he is what he is.
2) Why would you find somebody in a veil threatening or insulting? What narrow minded bigotry. Are there hoardes of women in veils attacking and causing havoc up and down the country?? Maybe people find it offensive when 16 year old girls expose their fat flabby **** and ***** on their way to the pubs and clubs on a saturday night, but that's the freedom of expression.
Its ok for your women to wear the burkha, and you wonder why we find it offensive, isnt it obvious?
And you say women exposing body parts on a friday night IS offensive, are you gay?, do you not like looking at scantily clad women?
Your attitude is EXACTLY what does my head in, your values are ok but ours arent!
WELL YOUR IN ENGLAND MATE< IF YOU DONT LIKE IT **** OFF!
24 October 2009, 10:19 AM
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I'm only going to make one post on this thread, that only because otherwise I get drawn into endless arguments, and life is too short.
1) People keep saying the programme was biased, and put together to make NG look bad, he isn't really a racist.
This guy has denied the holocaust, said hitler went a little too far, believes homosexuality should be illegal (has only moderated that view for political appeal recently), formed links with the KKK.
He goes on about muslims but HE was the one who went to form links with some of the most way out muslims in the world, ie Colonel Gadaffi and Louis Farrakhan (if you haven't heard of the last person google him, you'll find it interesting)
He is also a convicted criminal, and some of his main advisors/colleagues as well
How do you MAKE someone like this look bad, he is what he is.
2) Why would you find somebody in a veil threatening or insulting? What narrow minded bigotry. Are there hoardes of women in veils attacking and causing havoc up and down the country?? Maybe people find it offensive when 16 year old girls expose their fat flabby **** and ***** on their way to the pubs and clubs on a saturday night, but that's the freedom of expression.
1) People keep saying the programme was biased, and put together to make NG look bad, he isn't really a racist.
This guy has denied the holocaust, said hitler went a little too far, believes homosexuality should be illegal (has only moderated that view for political appeal recently), formed links with the KKK.
He goes on about muslims but HE was the one who went to form links with some of the most way out muslims in the world, ie Colonel Gadaffi and Louis Farrakhan (if you haven't heard of the last person google him, you'll find it interesting)
He is also a convicted criminal, and some of his main advisors/colleagues as well
How do you MAKE someone like this look bad, he is what he is.
2) Why would you find somebody in a veil threatening or insulting? What narrow minded bigotry. Are there hoardes of women in veils attacking and causing havoc up and down the country?? Maybe people find it offensive when 16 year old girls expose their fat flabby **** and ***** on their way to the pubs and clubs on a saturday night, but that's the freedom of expression.
24 October 2009, 10:21 AM
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haha laugh at all the closet bnp'ers
You can't polish a turd i'm afraid -- and whatever camera angle the BBC use he still looks and acts like the **** he his
and he didn't even get a rough time, no standing up and finger pointing - which I suspect half the closet bnp'ers on here suspected would happen from the wicked BBC (although the questions did seem limited to BNP related stuff)
and if you think he did, you obviously havn't seen QT much, one in the near past that springs to mind was the one aired in the middle of the MP expenses crisis -- that was raucous
You can't polish a turd i'm afraid -- and whatever camera angle the BBC use he still looks and acts like the **** he his
and he didn't even get a rough time, no standing up and finger pointing - which I suspect half the closet bnp'ers on here suspected would happen from the wicked BBC (although the questions did seem limited to BNP related stuff)
and if you think he did, you obviously havn't seen QT much, one in the near past that springs to mind was the one aired in the middle of the MP expenses crisis -- that was raucous
24 October 2009, 10:26 AM
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Oh and to add to the debate... my mother who's a recently retired teacher told me the Asian kids at school bragged how they and their families cheated the system by using the race card. They also would claim not to understand English if in trouble when the teachers knew that they clearly did. scum of all creeds will ise whatever they can to get what they want but the point is if you stand out more than most unfortunately you have to be whiter than white if you pardon the pun.
If they arent gonna sup[port them selves GET THEM OUT!
Im also sick of the race card being played, they sjhouldnt be allowed to get away with it!
24 October 2009, 10:29 AM
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There's plenty white people pulling those tricks as well though, my only point was that if you're in a minority then the onus is more on you to integrate into the majority so by abusing the system which is there to help people it will not aid the cause of integration.
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Griffin came across as an uneducated buffoon. Some of his 'facts' he was quoting with no credible source were laughable.
Jack straw didn't come across much better to be honest. You could see the splinters in his **** from sitting on the fence so much. The only good thing that may come about from the BNP being more prominent is that the other parties may start to look at the real issues why people are voting for them.
Jack straw didn't come across much better to be honest. You could see the splinters in his **** from sitting on the fence so much. The only good thing that may come about from the BNP being more prominent is that the other parties may start to look at the real issues why people are voting for them.
24 October 2009, 10:35 AM
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haha laugh at all the closet bnp'ers
You can't polish a turd i'm afraid -- and whatever camera angle the BBC use he still looks and acts like the **** he his
and he didn't even get a rough time, no standing up and finger pointing - which I suspect half the closet bnp'ers on here suspected would happen from the wicked BBC (although the questions did seem limited to BNP related stuff)
and if you think he did, you obviously havn't seen QT much, one in the near past that springs to mind was the one aired in the middle of the MP expenses crisis -- that was raucous
You can't polish a turd i'm afraid -- and whatever camera angle the BBC use he still looks and acts like the **** he his
and he didn't even get a rough time, no standing up and finger pointing - which I suspect half the closet bnp'ers on here suspected would happen from the wicked BBC (although the questions did seem limited to BNP related stuff)
and if you think he did, you obviously havn't seen QT much, one in the near past that springs to mind was the one aired in the middle of the MP expenses crisis -- that was raucous
Ha ha look at all the closet communists.. freedom of speech as long as you agree with us
there is a world of difference between supporting their policies on immigration and Europe and actually supporting the party itself.Of course it's a common used tactic of those with low intellect to start casting aspersions when they are losing an argument, I mean look at labour they have been doing it for the past 12 years every time someone mentions immigration.
24 October 2009, 11:20 AM
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Just emailed the BNP and told them to forget recruiting on the street, just pull over every Scooby they see as judging by this thread at least half of the drivers are potential members although some will find the BNP a little too left wing for their particular leanings (GC8WRX comes to mind 
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This thread just goes to prove what a great job the likes of the Daily Mail have done in convincing so many that immigration is our biggest issue in the UK. It isn't of course, but far easier to blame the 'darkies' than to face up to the fact that many of the native population are scum!
) This thread just goes to prove what a great job the likes of the Daily Mail have done in convincing so many that immigration is our biggest issue in the UK. It isn't of course, but far easier to blame the 'darkies' than to face up to the fact that many of the native population are scum!
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As always, the Grumpy Old Sod hits the nail on the head!
See Grumpy Old Sod.com - a very sad day for democracy and free speech for the rest of his excellent analysis! 
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Originally Posted by GOS
No doubt the debate about BNP leader Nick Griffin's appearance on BBC "Question Time" will rumble on for several days to come, so here's our grumpy take on it: it was an appalling exhibition and brought no credit to almost anyone involved - Griffin himself, the panellists, chairman David Dimbleby, the audience or the BBC.
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24 October 2009, 11:36 AM
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I am Glad Griffin went on and i am glad he looked out of his depth and stupid when asked about the Holocaust. Having said that he also annoyed the hell out of Jack Straw by mentioning that He (griffins) father was in the RAF during WW2 whilst Straws (coward) of a father was locked up for not wanting to go to war to defend this country, its people and its rights - that put a smile on my face!
Good point re Churchill and the BNP - do you think if Churchill was alive he and his beliefs would be more aligned with the BNP than the Conservatives?
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Just emailed the BNP and told them to forget recruiting on the street, just pull over every Scooby they see as judging by this thread at least half of the drivers are potential members although some will find the BNP a little too left wing for their particular leanings (GC8WRX comes to mind )
This thread just goes to prove what a great job the likes of the Daily Mail have done in convincing so many that immigration is our biggest issue in the UK. It isn't of course, but far easier to blame the 'darkies' than to face up to the fact that many of the native population are scum!
) This thread just goes to prove what a great job the likes of the Daily Mail have done in convincing so many that immigration is our biggest issue in the UK. It isn't of course, but far easier to blame the 'darkies' than to face up to the fact that many of the native population are scum!
If the BNP became the elected government of this country what would you do then? After all, we are in a, supposed, democracy!
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FFS they are peddlers of race hate! Surely you don't think they have any right to be a legitimate party
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You just summed things up for me!
Its ok for your women to wear the burkha, and you wonder why we find it offensive, isnt it obvious?
And you say women exposing body parts on a friday night IS offensive, are you gay?, do you not like looking at scantily clad women?
Your attitude is EXACTLY what does my head in, your values are ok but ours arent!
WELL YOUR IN ENGLAND MATE< IF YOU DONT LIKE IT **** OFF!
Its ok for your women to wear the burkha, and you wonder why we find it offensive, isnt it obvious?
And you say women exposing body parts on a friday night IS offensive, are you gay?, do you not like looking at scantily clad women?
Your attitude is EXACTLY what does my head in, your values are ok but ours arent!
WELL YOUR IN ENGLAND MATE< IF YOU DONT LIKE IT **** OFF!
No, you have proven MY point, ie just how ignorant people like you are. 'My' women do not wear bhurkhas, I am NOT a muslim. Anybody with half an education and didn't spend most his life in the company of other illiterate buffoons would know that from my surname. SINGH, you plonker. I'm a sikh, 'my people' spent 500 years fighting the mughals/muslims. But knowing that would mean you would have to learn your history from somewhere other than the BNP website.
I never said I found scantily clad women offensive, I said some might (including lots of decent white people)
Your post, to me reflects the intelligence of the average BNP voter.
As for me ******* off? Actually why don't you? My family have probably paid more taxes in 3 generations than yours have paid in twice as many, and my skills are more in demand than yours. So that just leaves the colour of your skin being white? I don't give a toss mate. So you fck off somewhere, or try and make me, as you do like to 'kick a bit of asian **** don't you?
24 October 2009, 12:54 PM
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No, you have proven MY point, ie just how ignorant people like you are. 'My' women do not wear bhurkhas, I am NOT a muslim. Anybody with half an education and didn't spend most his life in the company of other illiterate buffoons would know that from my surname. SINGH, you plonker. I'm a sikh, 'my people' spent 500 years fighting the mughals/muslims. But knowing that would mean you would have to learn your history from somewhere other than the BNP website.
I never said I found scantily clad women offensive, I said some might (including lots of decent white people)
Your post, to me reflects the intelligence of the average BNP voter.
As for me ******* off? Actually why don't you? My family have probably paid more taxes in 3 generations than yours have paid in twice as many, and my skills are more in demand than yours. So that just leaves the colour of your skin being white? I don't give a toss mate. So you fck off somewhere, or try and make me, as you do like to 'kick a bit of asian **** don't you?
I never said I found scantily clad women offensive, I said some might (including lots of decent white people)
Your post, to me reflects the intelligence of the average BNP voter.
As for me ******* off? Actually why don't you? My family have probably paid more taxes in 3 generations than yours have paid in twice as many, and my skills are more in demand than yours. So that just leaves the colour of your skin being white? I don't give a toss mate. So you fck off somewhere, or try and make me, as you do like to 'kick a bit of asian **** don't you?
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Where shall we send them?
24 October 2009, 01:24 PM
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Ha ha look at all the closet communists.. freedom of speech as long as you agree with us there is a world of difference between supporting their policies on immigration and Europe and actually supporting the party itself.
Of course it's a common used tactic of those with low intellect to start casting aspersions when they are losing an argument, I mean look at labour they have been doing it for the past 12 years every time someone mentions immigration.
there is a world of difference between supporting their policies on immigration and Europe and actually supporting the party itself.Of course it's a common used tactic of those with low intellect to start casting aspersions when they are losing an argument, I mean look at labour they have been doing it for the past 12 years every time someone mentions immigration.
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So you are saying that wearing a burkha is offensive because of some extremists who may, or may not be from the same ethnic origin.
So that makes some bikini wearing totty we all drool over offensive because they are the same ethnicity as the BNP or the National Front; or the Bader-Meinhoff gang; or the Oklahoma bomber; or the nation that killed around 330,000 Muslims in Desert Storm.
I would call you a buffoon but with your crass, constant Daily Mail style postings you manage it all on your own. A bit like Nick Griffin.
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Also people like gc8 wax lyrical about how much they love true british culture but have made no effort to learn its language, literature, history etc. They think its about lots of fat white blokes sitting around drinking beer and talking about football. If that idiot boy had ever read about World War 2 or the commonwealth, or even the British Raj he would know that someone with the surname Singh is not a muslim. He may say he doesn't give a damn, but this is all British history, a country he claims his own and to love.
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As long as they aren't breaking the law (beating up old grannies or whatever) they have as much right as you to form a political party. They also have the right to say what the h3ll they like. If you don't like it don't vote for them but respect others right to vote for any party they see fit.
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As long as they aren't breaking the law (beating up old grannies or whatever) they have as much right as you to form a political party. They also have the right to say what the h3ll they like. If you don't like it don't vote for them but respect others right to vote for any party they see fit.
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You constantly throw up these sort of smokescreens, I don't know why
If I choose to attack the BNP then I will thank you, I'd like to think I'd of stood up against fascism in the 30's too.....
Stop defending them, they are big enough and ugly enough to defend themselves!!
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Has anyone challenged anyones right to vote for them???? No I didn't think so
You constantly throw up these sort of smokescreens, I don't know why
If I choose to attack the BNP then I will thank you, I'd like to think I'd of stood up against fascism in the 30's too.....
Stop defending them, they are big enough and ugly enough to defend themselves!!
You constantly throw up these sort of smokescreens, I don't know why
If I choose to attack the BNP then I will thank you, I'd like to think I'd of stood up against fascism in the 30's too.....
Stop defending them, they are big enough and ugly enough to defend themselves!!
If you are going to pick and choose which parties are allowed to exist, you are effectively assuming that the voter cannot, and should not be allowed to make his/her own mind up. How will that eventually play out? Probably as a root for the very dictatorships that spawn far right ideas...
Regardless, they DON'T represent the majority viewpoint and so are no threat to anyone whilst they're in the public domain, where everyone keeps an eye on them.
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