dpb

ah yes, the country is on its knees due to a few immigrants - that sounds familar

Deep Singh

1) Is the governments immigration policy flawed? Yes.

2) Is the country on its knee's? Maybe,

Did 1) cause 2)? The BNP would have you believe yes, the truth is no. Immigration policy still needs to be fixed though, ASAP

Are the BNP interested in immigrants integrating or adopting the indigenous lifestyle? No, that's why I am not allowed to join the BNP.

My point is that on the whole, its a certain part of the population that can't see that and fall for the rhetoric of the BNP.

The Zohan

Not too sure it is just a certain part of the population anymore, areas with high immigrant populations - the areas where they are effectivley left to get on with it, no intergration and more like a ghetto, are effecting more and more people of different classes, certianly the middle classes who up until now where a lot less likely to believe the BNP rhetoric/party line.

The BNP grow stonger mostly due to the poor government of the day!

Leslie

Thats true.

Les

TelBoy

Sorry, was that an answer?

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Yes it was and being one of the more intelligent members of SN I know that you know what I am getting at.

I should also get a point from you for being one of the few posters to use reasonably good grammar

Deep Singh

I agree to some extent. As I've pointed out before, this 'surge' in the BNP's popularity has happened on Labour's watch, something else they should be ashamed of.

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

The government need to accept that racism is not exclusivey a white problem. The edl were screamed down by the government and the bbc as racist white supremacists, yet not a peep from either of them of the "white scum" being beaten down by a bunch of Asian yobs.

superstar1

Don't know much detailed stuff about BNP, don't know anybody that is a member and i have never had affiliations with any political party. however, if muslim extremists are allowed to stand in the street and put forward their points of view so should the BNP, however painfull this may be to some people like yourself.

firebug

iTrader: (3)

i know how to write its just quicker not to put capital letters and full stops in.... and id had a few beers when i wrote it, and theres nothing wrong with my spelling either.

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

I guess they would appeal to these folk then?

The Dogs B******s

But dont you forget,its us White people who are racist

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

Of course, can't you see that white man trying to bite that mans foot off

hodgy0_2

racism is really about poverty

poverty of education, aspiration, together with

ecomomic poverty and cultural poverty

Deep Singh

Yes. If you look across the world either today or over the last 500 years it is mainly the brown/blackman exerting his physical, cultural and financial will over the white man. I mean, I can't seem to walk down the road without stepping over white men being beaten senseless by groups of asians!

What do you think that photo shows or proves? That there are some asians who are violent thugs? That's not news to me

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

LOL at the posts on here regarding this photo.

Reminds me of the SA pro-apartheid lobby who used to justify the oppression of an entire race because of their skin colour by picking images like this and declaring 'who is racist now?' Forgetting the fact that those being so savagely beaten by the 'nasty blacks' were white supremacists and for every one of those pics were a hundred more showing quite the opposite and that they were living in a country where racism was law.

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

so they are not racist just thugs?

The Zohan

That may be so, this pictures shown are taken in the UK recently and i do doubt the Asians involved where continually badly beated by the Police, the Army or their bosses, certianly not in this county. It is likely they had the right to use the same facilities, education, social services, NHS, etc and not segregated from 'Whitie', unless by their choice of course.

They are thugs beating a white person, boot on the other foot and the race card would instantly be played.

So are the Asian thugs racists?

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

No, you miss my point and are being too literal. My point is allegorical, what I am saying is that we have no context for those images.

For instance we don't know whether they are the agressors or are acting in self defence.

The Zohan

Acting in self defence does not usually involve 6 or so people beating the cr@p out of 1 person who is heading to the ground does it

Imagine 6 white chaps and one asian lad in the same pose, who that be self defence on behalf of the white chaps or a racist beating?? First thoughts in your head?

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Sorry Paul, but how do you know whether that one white guy being given a kicking wasn't one of six giving a kicking to an Asian lad a few moments before? It is not fair to comment as we do not know the context of such images.

Whatever the story none of this is good and comments like those earlier in the trhead are exactly the sort of crap the BNP want.

Maybe I am in a minority and this country really is turning racist. Certainly seems so from NSR

The Zohan

As Deep pointed out, this gov't should be ashamed of how it has let things run on in this country and how the BNP hav started to gain a foothold. a lot fo this is down to fear and fear of the unknown due to the pi$$ poor intergration.

oh and just to point out and for a little balance two lads in the picture are black, afro Carribean or African i guess.

Do you consider me a racist?


Do you think it a good idea to hear Griffin et al speak and be asked questions?

Personally i do and i want to hear him answer questions put by some tough and probing professionals (on the panel) and put his/thier case forward so people can really see and hear what the BNP are about.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

No I don't think you are, but there are a fair few on here who seem ready to jump on the bandwagon. I am a little surprised you can't see what I mean about the context of such images as that above, but no worries.

The trouble is Paul you won't get to really see and hear what the BNP are about form Question Time. For that you need to do a little digging and most won't be bothered with that and will take his oublic rhetoric and run with it.

As Deep says he is not allowed to join the BNP, do you think that represents the underpinnings of a fair party?

Jamz3k

Have you actually looked at the picture?

The Zohan

I do understand what you are saying about the context of the pictures and i would love to see the rest or video from the scene.

As for the BNP i do think they are racist thugs in suits and the smiling face of fascism. As i have said beofre on this thread and a lot of others - Nick Griffin greatest recruiting sargents have been Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and the assorted cabinate ministers who have done all the hard work for him.

Daryl

I have heard some crap on here over the years, but this takes the biscuit...

Contemptuous and condescending in equal measure. Congratulations!

The Zohan

If anything it shows that a majority are intelligent, or at least able to think for themselves otherwise the BNP or even combat 18 would be running the country as the party elected by a majority into power.

You need to forgive F1 fan from time to time he gets a little carried away with a low opinion of a majority of the country even though they do not all read the DM, wear union jack tee shirts, keep illegal dags or go paki basking for fun

Most people (regardless of colour of religion) pay their taxes, got to work, raise a family live within the law and get on with life.

It is perhaps some the minorities that he should take a closer look at, not just the BNP

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

But true!!!

Anyway I doubt your post would be quite so vociferous if it wasn't me posting as we have had a run in before and as a result you are the sole reason I come nowhere near the photgraphy forum despite, shall we say, my being able to add quite a bit to it.

The Zohan

Yup the white guy was doing ok against all 6 of 'em until his shoe lace came undone it was deffo his own fault!

yoza

Your not wrong there, especially if you happen to be a Gypsy.

Or worse, a Gay, black, gypsy, cyclist... with an Alfa in the garage.

On a serious note Ive never read so many racist comments in NSR in the 8 years Ive been posting......very sad.