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Old 17 September 2009, 10:59 PM
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Doesn't it.

I'll bring my crutches.
Old 18 September 2009, 09:37 PM
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whats wrong with driving your own cars ?

i have sourced all parts for my build myself designed it myself pretty much built most of it myself and will be driving it myself, to me thats what its all about

good luck to you all anyway for sunday,
Old 18 September 2009, 10:43 PM
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Andy,
I have driven each round of ScoobySprint this year.
I have driven at TOTB.
I have driven at TunerGP.
I have driven at Time Attack.

Nowt wrong with me giving the keys to someone else who is far better behind the wheel.... if only to see what the car is actually capable of, every now and then. Richard Bulmer drove it this year because his own car was not ready and I am part of his constructors team. Simon had a punt because I could see he was itching to have a go and I had already done all my runs. I do this for the car as well as for myself.
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Originally Posted by andyscoobym3
whats wrong with driving your own cars ?

i have sourced all parts for my build myself designed it myself pretty much built most of it myself and will be driving it myself, to me thats what its all about

good luck to you all anyway for sunday,
Pity, it's only open to cars designed and built by Subaru.
Old 19 September 2009, 02:17 AM
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Your up late John

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Old 19 September 2009, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by johnfelstead
Pity, it's only open to cars designed and built by Subaru.
Old 19 September 2009, 11:59 PM
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Indeed Tony.
Old 21 September 2009, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by andyscoobym3
your name is not on the scoobysprint entries ?
i am entering both events
How did you get on Andy ?
Old 21 September 2009, 07:16 PM
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His head gaskets went again after 1 run He suspects a liner has dropped or cracked.
Old 21 September 2009, 07:19 PM
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Bad news indeed. I saw you driving off before I got a chance in the day to come say hi. Sorry I didn't come over to say hi to you either Duncan. It was a good event, can't believe how fast some of those 1/4 mile cars are, some are almost as fast as bikes
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Originally Posted by dynamix
How did you get on Andy ?
crap mate, head gasket gone again, got the data loggin on my 2nd drag run and in 4th and 5th it was pulling loads of timing out, didnt get chance to launch it, loosing 2 litres of coolant each run,
engine is being sent away to a PROPER engine builder
Old 21 September 2009, 07:58 PM
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no way. gutted bet you werent expecting that. will it be ready for ta final?
Old 21 September 2009, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by utaka
no way. gutted bet you werent expecting that. will it be ready for ta final?
YES...
Old 21 September 2009, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by andyscoobym3
crap mate, head gasket gone again, got the data loggin on my 2nd drag run and in 4th and 5th it was pulling loads of timing out, didnt get chance to launch it, loosing 2 litres of coolant each run,
engine is being sent away to a PROPER engine builder
I am sure Paul at Zen will do a cracking job for you

Gutted for you Will it be done for Snetterton ?
Old 21 September 2009, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dynamix
I am sure Paul at Zen will do a cracking job for you

Gutted for you Will it be done for Snetterton ?
Not in time for Snetterton we wouldn't

Good luck with getting it ready Andy.

The yellow thing ran 2.3 bar on the strip all day long, didn't do loads of runs mind, but you get the picture.
Old 21 September 2009, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dynamix
I am sure Paul at Zen will do a cracking job for you

Gutted for you Will it be done for Snetterton ?
It will be tight, but ME and MY ENGINE BUILDER will do our best...
Old 21 September 2009, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Pavlo

The yellow thing ran 2.3 bar on the strip all day long, didn't do loads of runs mind, but you get the picture.
no but it didnt miss a beat, credit to you guys.

Andy in my eyes has been very mis lead about his engine and it has cost him alot of time and money through no fault of his own.....

it will be right this time.

ant

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Old 21 September 2009, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pavlo
Not in time for Snetterton we wouldn't

Good luck with getting it ready Andy.

The yellow thing ran 2.3 bar on the strip all day long, didn't do loads of runs mind, but you get the picture.
yes it was absolutely awesome, it by far exceeded what i thought it would be like,

well done to you all involed with the bannana
Old 21 September 2009, 09:49 PM
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Great parts, lots of thought, lots of discussions with the best minds in the UK, great mapping and lots of run have created the car. Awesome to drive!

YouTube - Lateral Drag Car at Scooby Shoot Out 2009

ps Andy, did you drop the money in for charity
Old 22 September 2009, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
Great parts, lots of thought, lots of discussions with the best minds in the UK, great mapping and lots of run have created the car. Awesome to drive!

YouTube - Lateral Drag Car at Scooby Shoot Out 2009

ps Andy, did you drop the money in for charity
sorry i didnt mate, i will sort you out on the 18th oct at elvington, i had that much on my mind on sunday didnt have time for anything or anyone for that matter, feel alot better now thow, new complete engine on its way, so chy is deleted out of the equasion

well done steven
Old 22 September 2009, 08:20 PM
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old engine out and apart yet? anything we can learn about the blocks from your failures?
Old 22 September 2009, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pavlo
old engine out and apart yet? anything we can learn about the blocks from your failures?
liner dropped mate, and mickey mouse studs used, thing to be learnt is have a good builder that is reputable and has history a bit like yourself, thanks for your concerns paul

its basically scrap, so complete new one going in, at last

andy h

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any pics of how much it has dropped Andy?

What studs were used?
Old 22 September 2009, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
any pics of how much it has dropped Andy?

What studs were used?
not got any pics yet, but will send you some asap however it will be taken on my phone so res a bit crap.

studs are his own ones 14mm, wrong material apparently

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no probs, just want to see beforehand, if steves is the same. You sure they are is own, i thought Chy used RCMS 14mm studs?
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
no probs, just want to see beforehand, if steves is the same. You sure they are is own, i thought Chy used RCMS 14mm studs?
dont know mate, just guessing a bit, the torque settings on studs were not all the same.

i dont realy want to make a topic about my engine failure, its just not worth it, it will only turn into a slanging match between chy lovers and chy failures.

thats why i have made my decision to delete chy out of the equasion regarding my car, as he has been the ONLY problem on my car from day 1.

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No worries Andy.

It's a shame as Chy has tried some interesting things that should work well, not going into any political angles, but I am interested to know where the problems with his methods lie. I have a few similar things on the go in terms of liners, but it's a case of test, strip and inspect.

I have seen good results from an EJ257 block, EJ257 with inserts, but then I've seen cracked blocks too, but whose to say those cracks were down to a problem brought about by mapping. So you're back to looking at a CDB of some sort, the EJ22 is a natural choice, but you never know your luck at high power.

There is no easy way to do it, the cosworth 2.5 CDB would have been mustard had it ever arrived, but it's shelved for now as far as I know, as the development cost is just too big, given the risk of not selling loads.

Good luck with the new build.

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Originally Posted by andyscoobym3
dont know mate, just guessing a bit, the torque settings on studs were not all the same.

i dont realy want to make a topic about my engine failure, its just not worth it, it will only turn into a slanging match between chy lovers and chy failures.

thats why i have made my decision to delete chy out of the equasion regarding my car, as he has been the ONLY problem on my car from day 1.

andy h
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Andy, again i dont want to get into any politics, but do you know what the torque settings were on which studs, as the two centre studs are usually at a higher torque level than the outer 4.
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
Andy, again i dont want to get into any politics, but do you know what the torque settings were on which studs, as the two centre studs are usually at a higher torque level than the outer 4.
dont know yet mate as i am not much interested in the studs and they were not the cause of the fault, i cant see studs making a liner drop,

thanks for your coments and interest

andy h
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no problems Andy, was just picking up on your comments of wrong material for studs and different torque settings.

The RCMS studs are incredible quality, and the best material for the job i believe, and once torqued up as per procedure, they torque settings are quite high.

Agree though, that these shouldn affect a liner dropping.


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