ALi-B

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Quite suprised the Weim went for him instead of the Dalmation. As its the Dalmations that tend to have the aggressive attack streak in them. Although both breeds are quite highly strung in the instincts department, just weims are usually the more obedient and hence better trained.

Having said that; dogs that are attacked when young/puppys tend to be agressive towards other dogs when older. Our Doberman was attacked twice when he was a puppy (once by an Alsation, once by a Dalmation), and he never got on with other dogs since. He never went for them though; just showed alot of teeth and barked alot (come to the crunch, if the other dog went for him he'd run off - bloody coward )

Big Pete

This happened a long, long time ago when we were kids. Me & our kid were walking me mam's dog & had him on a lead. It was attacked by a fellas dog. His not on a lead. We stopped the attack in ways that we saw as being suitable

Fella didn't say a word

Protect your own. It's the right thing to do

gpssti4

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My mate seems to have it about right. He's got a Aussie sort of mongrel - bit staffie like.

Once when he was out walking Alice (cool name for a killer - rats, mice, hedgehogs etc) on the lead as always, she jumped about 2 foot into the hedge and came out with a cat in her mouth. She was going in for the kill, cat wrapped around her face claws dug in. Gareth drops to his knees and strangles his oown dog as hard as he could. After a few seconds she dropped the cat - which ran off unharmed but having used up one of it's nine lives!

Not too sure if you'd want to strangle a strange dog, but it worked for my mate.

ALi-B

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That's usually the way; Dog between legs, grab neck/head with both hands and insert a finger between the rear of the dog's jaw on each side- it then locks their mouth open.

(I used to use this trick when retrieving stolen underwear )

Leslie

J4CKO,

I think you were perfectly entitled to defend your own dog from an unprovoked attack like that. The Weimaraner was the responsibility of its owner and it does sound as though he was very capable of controlling it anyway, or even managing to attach its lead properly.

There is no reason why you can't carry a penknife with you but I cannot say what the outcome would be if you had been able to use it on the attacking dog. I would have thought any other method to stop the attack such as a well aimed boot would be acceptable. You would quite possibly been defending the life of your dog anyway.

Les

dunx

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That's funny !

No way FFS !

Stick, man's greatest asset !

There is NO excuse of "yours did it first" when it comes to dog behaviour, Dylan had been trained as an attack dog/fighter and would batter anything that crossed his path, mostly my Sam.... But in about six weeks I taught him that I was the "pack leader", and he doesn't attack anything now.
Boundaries and rules are what all dogs need.

Can't quite manage to stop him hating Asians.... I guess from his time scavenging round take-aways whilst loose on the streets ?

dunx

dunx

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It's the phrase reasonable force that needs interpreting on the street....
I suspect a whole world of aggro for a dog owner stabbing a dog with a knife, maybe even a lifetime ban from dog ownership ?

dunx

Leslie

You could well be right.

Les

Daryl

Bollocks! And it's Dalmatian FFS

The Zohan

Yet to see a dog thread that does not turn into a slanging match...

dunx

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My next door neighbours (yuppies !) have just had a week with their Dalmatian puppy, she pees everywhere as a kennel raised dog would.... Well I'm laughing !

dunx

P.S. What was the name of the "lead" in 101 D's ? Cruella Devile ?

codie247

Weim should have been on a lead. cant stand it when dogs off leads cant be controlled!! Specially round kids and other dogs!!! sorry to hear about the attack J4CKO. I do and have done what i can to prevent my dog fighting. he has never growled at another dog or gone for another dog and nor do i want him to start. It can change the temprement of some dogs, i have a cat and kids, and i do my best to stop him fighting, even to the extreme of putting him on my shoulder away from a chow!! I must have looked like a right git, but hey!! Wouldnt mind hes a 6yr old, near 5st english bull terrier who could probably look after himself. But he our pet, part of the family and is thought of as such, not a fashion item. plus the wife wouldnt want her baby boy fighting!!

Lee

ALi-B

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My apologies I didn't realise it had to have a red "a". Still stands that of all the dogs I've had dealings with its the dalmatians that have had aggression issues, that, and cocker spaniels (the latter is well documented too). Worse than the likes of what is often seen touted in the media IMHO (rotts, bull terrriers etc).

dunx

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+1

jjones

could you not have booted the attacking dog in the belly/ribs?

al02uk

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I always remember about 15yrs ago my Grandads dog Pip (yorkie) decided to have ago at an Alsatian, The Alsation picked it up by its neck and started shaking it.

My Grandad ran up to it to give it a good boot in the belly.......completely missed and his shoe went flying about 30ft down the field. The Alsation left Pip and ran after the shoe!!!.....silly old sod.

Moral of the story....wear loose shoes

ScoobyWon't

Both. Possession of an offensive weapon rather than carrying a knife.

A few weeks back I went round to put the door in of a guy who had been punching his Dog de Beaurdeuax unconscious. He's likely to get more time for animal cruelty than he is for wife beating...

Personally, if I was you I would have kicked it too, then claimed self defence as you thought it was going to attack yourself and your son too

my94wrx

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my dog got attacked a few years back by a cocker spaniel, ours was on the lead (she is very friendly) and the spaniel was not, it came bolting up and attacked our dog, i without hesitation grabbed the spaniel by the collar and flung by about 20ft, luckily ours was not injured just a bit shocked,

my friend has a staffy which is very friendly and would lick you to death, and that was attacked by another staffy in the care of a couple children, whilst being walked by my freinds wife, and caused quite a bit of damage to my friends dog, they reported it to the police, and they deemed the staffy that attacked a dangerous dog and had it destroyed.

Devildog

JACKO

The knife idea? Fecking stupid and you probably acknowledge that now.

Markus has hit nail on head. It saw your dog as a small fluffy animal, ie prey.

You did the correct thing, to a point. I've handed a dog back to its owner that was attacking one of mine before, but you absolutely have to make sure you put distance between the dogs first and then make sure the owner has it under control.

Nowadays, depending on the owner's reaction and control, I'd consider asking for a name and address and if given (or not) with a view to reporting the owner for failing to be in control of his/her dog in a pubic place to the police.

I've never heard of a Dalmatian or a Wiemeraner being considered "trophy" dogs, but there you go. As breeds, they both have specific breed traits, which their owners should be aware of (and in this case clearly were not).

But as a dog owner yourself you also have an obligation to understand that sometimes, for no reason whatsoever, certain dogs will just not get on with certain other dogs. Much like people, with the difference that dogs (like all animals) work to a different moral code than we generally do and if not properly trained any dog can be a problem.
You should also understand (as you prpbably do now) that your little fluffball will appear quite appealing as prey to breeds traditionally associated with the hunting of small animals.

Maybe you need to get your dog a haircut

BTW, we've had to take our Rottie bitch to the vet after being attacked on two occasions. Both times for medical attention to cuts, grazes and puncture wounds. The culprits? a Jack Russell and a Yorkshire Terrier (both bitches). She did nothing in retaliation. Had it happened to our male, then I suspect there would have been a very seriously injured Jack Russell and an equally seriously injured Yorkshire Terrier, simply because he would be more prone to defend himself.

The irony being, that unlike you we have more of a problem looking out for aggressive wee ******* dogs, becasue despite whish one started it, It doesn't take much to see where the blame woud be placed.

Bottom line is, dogs will fight from time to time, and you just need to be conscious of your surroundings when out with any dog at all times.

J4CKO

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Yes, definitely need to keep an eye open, the knife thing wasnt actually what I was going to do, it was me considering my options and I didnt have it anyway, its only a little Victorinox penknife and like I say it was just me considering what I could do, Rambo was litterally screaming as it was hurting him, like when the silly sod gets trodden on whilst scavving in the kitchen which was alarming, would have just used normal means it was just the time Nipper (my mums Chihuahua) got attacked the assailant would not let go despite my dad battering it with all his strength, unless you have seen such an attack its difficult to comprehend how tenacious a dog can be, and the one in question was a lot smaller than a Weim, my wife's auntie was looking after her friends dog and that got shaken to death whilst out walking and she had to tell her on her return.

The chap the other day said his Dalmation was on a lead as it couldnt be trusted, Weims, Dalmations and Red Setters, plus a few others do see to appear round here as trophy dogs, definite preference for bigger, more impressive looking dogs, possibly due to knowledgeable owners who love the breed but a lot seem to be carted round by flash SUV drivers who dont seem to be able to handle them, the Border Collie we rehomed got attacked by a Dalmation, so my opinion of them is that they may well be lovely but I have only encountered two, one confined to a lead because its vicous with other dogs and another that attacked our Border Collie, luckily he didnt retailliate as he was quite a bit bigger and like a bloody Wolf.

Our new neighbours have two big Airedale Terriers, I suspect Rambo or any other of the (mostly small) dogs on the road would also end up as dinner as they go mental and the chap has trouble restrainign them, I suspect that is prey drive rather than wanting to play, they do seem well controlled but will have to watch him around them, didnt think owning a smaller dog would be so stressful, i.e. trying to stop some other buggers dog shredding it !

dunx

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I heard today that mine is being "eaten" by an aggressive tumour, a few sad days ahead, again !

dunx