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Old 28 September 2009, 10:37 AM
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Yes it is unfortunate they all get tarnished with the same brush so too speak, but do the terrorists actually stop too think about this as well though?

Untill we see a whitey being convicted of terrorism i dont think its appropriate we mention them for the time being and when one does get convicted of it believe me ill be the first one ready too let rip, It works both way`s with me
Old 28 September 2009, 10:46 AM
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That Timothy McVeigh was quite pasty ..!
Old 28 September 2009, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Yes it is unfortunate they all get tarnished with the same brush so too speak, but do the terrorists actually stop too think about this as well though?

Untill we see a whitey being convicted of terrorism i dont think its appropriate we mention them for the time being and when one does get convicted of it believe me ill be the first one ready too let rip, It works both way`s with me
Of course the terrorists don't consider this, they don't care. I think we as people should not become closed minded though, and that doesn't mean turning a blind eye in terms of security, I'm talking about how we as the public look at things.

For example, at my work, we have been classed as an at risk store because of stock 'walking out of the door'. As a result we now have to go through a much more thourough signing out proceedure as we are all classed as potential thieves. It's not nice having worked there for years, being loyal and never taking a thing, to now be considered a potential suspect, due to the actions of probably a minority. I don't mind the new search proceedure, as they have to do something to protect their interests (it's more of an inconvenience than anything else), but to be tarred with the same brush is still not a nice feeling.
Old 28 September 2009, 10:54 AM
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apart from a few exceptions the IRA we mostly white

Although they usually managed to get the “Rasta” brigade to fire the weapons over the coffin of a dead comrade – in fatigues and “tea cosy’s" – the traditional Rasta head dress
Old 28 September 2009, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Yes it is unfortunate they all get tarnished with the same brush so too speak, but do the terrorists actually stop too think about this as well though?

Untill we see a whitey being convicted of terrorism i dont think its appropriate we mention them for the time being and when one does get convicted of it believe me ill be the first one ready too let rip, It works both way`s with me
What you will find is a lot of Arab and Asian looking Muslims, along with black muslims from SSA where Islam is gaining support and converts.

There is the odd white muslim and many eastern european who look 'white'

thier tactics could well leave us trusting few if anybody as these pesky muslim terrorists will get harder to spot...



Terrorism working in practice

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Old 28 September 2009, 11:05 AM
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Cant we make plane passengers walk thru a tunnel thats bombarded with radio signals to make it detonate before they get on a plane ?
Old 28 September 2009, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
apart from a few exceptions the IRA we mostly white
Yes, they were.

However they didn't try to blow up planes
Nor did they hijack them and fly them into buildings in the name of Allah or Islam

They didn't try to blow themselves apart in suicide jobs(We'll at least not intentionally anyway)

AND, they don't do that anymore do don't go dragging up the past please
Old 28 September 2009, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by JDM_Stig
Cant we make plane passengers walk thru a tunnel thats bombarded with radio signals to make it detonate before they get on a plane ?
Nice idea but itll contravene their human rights
Old 28 September 2009, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JDM_Stig
Cant we make plane passengers walk thru a tunnel thats bombarded with radio signals to make it detonate before they get on a plane ?
Whilst that may seem like a good idea, its not really going to be feasible
Old 28 September 2009, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by urban
Whilst that may seem like a good idea, its not really going to be feasible
yeah -- then the **** would really hit the fan
Old 28 September 2009, 11:57 AM
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profiling is the most logical way - after all the Police did it years ago with all people travelling from and to N.Ireland.
Old 28 September 2009, 12:05 PM
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Make all passengers eat 3lb of ex-laxx 24 hours before boarding
Old 28 September 2009, 12:05 PM
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The IRA blew up two little boys in Warrington.

I agree though that each terrorist group can out do each other with cowardice and indiscriminate acts of violence.

However, the point is that not all the Irish were Provo's in the same way that all Asians are not members of a Jihad against the west.

Steve
Old 28 September 2009, 12:13 PM
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I said above that this is a serious problem. The trouble with profiling is that it would cause major problems and I think would be likely to cause extreme racial reactions which would be likely to lead to rioting. The terrorists would use that to their own advantage as we have seen often enough already.

It would need something like a CT scan to detect an IED inside someone, and how many radiologists would be prepared to push their luck doing those on suspects? There is also the objections to such scans for health reasons of course.

This is a gift to terrorism. How very forward looking of our leaders to get this country recognised as a major terrorist target!

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Old 28 September 2009, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve vRS
However, the point is that not all the Irish were Provo's in the same way that all Asians are not members of a Jihad against the west.

Steve
You're right, however the trained terrorist spotting special branch cops that used to single out people for questioning under the terrorism act I think would work.

Someone with a bomb up their **** is I'd imagine likely to be anxious/fidgety
And I'm imagine if singled out would be likely to omit more cause to be scanned
Old 28 September 2009, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
the solution is to smuggle your own Rectal Bomb onto a plane

as the chances of two rectal bombs on the same plane is a statistical impossibility
Thinking outside the chocolate box
Old 28 September 2009, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
Yes, they were.

However they didn't try to blow up planes
Nor did they hijack them and fly them into buildings in the name of Allah or Islam

They didn't try to blow themselves apart in suicide jobs(We'll at least not intentionally anyway)

AND, they don't do that anymore do don't go dragging up the past please


Actually, they don't do that at the moment, it is unlikely but not impossible for a return to violence, werent "The Real IRA" up to no good again earlier this year, I dont see why we shouldnt mention it, no group can do that for years, killing hundered of innocent civillians and then expect to brush it under the carpet, I agree it is not healthy to dwell on it but it does need to be remembered and as part of this thread it is in context.

I dont think we can try and make the IRA seem like some bunch of cheeky lads who were a bit naughty or compare them to the Islamic Extremists, they both cause/caused misery on a huge scale, the fact that the bomber dies or does not scarcely matters if its your wife, husbands, kids, parents, siblings limbs strewn across the street.

I know people who were lacerated by flying glass in the Manchester bombing, I myself was working in Warrington for North West Water in 1993, and often went to Warrington centre at lunchtime and walked within feet of where the bomb went off many times, certainly didnt endear me to them, instead they killed a four year old boy.

At least the IRA, like you say had the brains to not explode with the bomb, the Islamic extremists dont have any qualms about exploding, they seem to relish it, so that minor advantage has gone, not just looking for mysterious bags, the bomb could now be a nervous 16 year old boy in a tracksuit ready to explode (mistakenly) in the name of Islam, we wont even be able to search him as its up his bum, no technology we have will find it when looking at thousands of people an hour.

So are we all going to have to be quarantined for 24 hours until we have had a crap, if it doesnt blow the bog up you get your boarding card ?
Old 28 September 2009, 01:09 PM
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Rectal Bomb? Is this the first known use of the so-called "Dirty Bomb"?

Thanks to the idiosynchracies of my own personal body clock I rarely book a flight on a Monday morning after an intoxicated weekend. The potential consequences of inadvertently letting off my own rectal bomb in such a confined space, just don't bear thinking about!

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Old 28 September 2009, 01:17 PM
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We'll end up having sniffer dogs sniffing our butt cracks now.

IRA had a line; they didn't kill their own (intentionally).

Islamic extremist have no line; everything and anything they do is in the name of god; kill their own they are martyrs and will be rewarded by god; how the hell do you combat that kind of brainwashing?

One thing I wish the Islamic communities would do is to stop harbouring these people. We have UK Islamic extremists, born here, living here. Their parents, freinds, family, collegues know them, might even share the same racist views against whites/non-muslims. They might not be extremists, but they agree with their views, and doing so they condone the extremist's actions; giving them a cause to "fight".

If we ever have hope gain any form of control on Islamic extremists, then these communities they live in need to oust them, reject them and report them.
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Originally Posted by Turbo2
Rectal Bomb? Is this the first known use of the so-called "Dirty Bomb"?

Thanks to the idiosynchracies of my own personal body clock I rarely book a flight on a Monday morning after an intoxicated weekend. The potential consequences of inadvertently letting off my own rectal bomb in such a confined space, just don't bear thinking about!

lol imagine trying to squeeze out a fart with 2lbs of semtex/c4 up yer ****
Old 28 September 2009, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
lol imagine trying to squeeze out a fart with 2lbs of semtex/c4 up yer ****
and the horror of seeing bean and lentil soup on the menu
Old 28 September 2009, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Islamic extremist have no line; everything and anything they do is in the name of god; kill their own they are martyrs and will be rewarded by god
You mean Allah


Originally Posted by ALi-B
how the hell do you combat that kind of brainwashing?
Ban Islamic beliefs
Old 28 September 2009, 02:10 PM
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Suicide bummers should be avoided
Old 28 September 2009, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
Of course the terrorists don't consider this, they don't care. I think we as people should not become closed minded though, and that doesn't mean turning a blind eye in terms of security, I'm talking about how we as the public look at things.

For example, at my work, we have been classed as an at risk store because of stock 'walking out of the door'. As a result we now have to go through a much more thourough signing out proceedure as we are all classed as potential thieves. It's not nice having worked there for years, being loyal and never taking a thing, to now be considered a potential suspect, due to the actions of probably a minority. I don't mind the new search proceedure, as they have to do something to protect their interests (it's more of an inconvenience than anything else), but to be tarred with the same brush is still not a nice feeling.
So do what the muslims should do and find out who is creating the problem and do something about it, if youi dont like being put into a box, weed out the element that puts you there!
Old 28 September 2009, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Nice idea but itll contravene their human rights
******* ******* shouldnt have yuman rights, blow them all up!
Old 28 September 2009, 03:39 PM
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Just got me thinking: I wonder if they made one of those tasteless martyrdom home videos for him? I can just imagine it: some scrawny arab rentboy bent squealing over a desk with another guy in a balaclava thrusting a tube of semtex HE and detonator elbow deep up his **** pipe, whilst preaching to the world about destroying the godless western infidels!

Not sure such a film would help bring many volunteers over to their cause!

I think I'll check out Youtube! Maybe someone could make a spoof one, so the whole world can take the p!ss out of Al Qaeda?

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that's an alarmin thought
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
We'll end up having sniffer dogs sniffing our butt cracks now.

If theres not a machine yet for this sort of probing im sure Woody Allan could invent it
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Originally Posted by GC8WRX
So do what the muslims should do and find out who is creating the problem and do something about it, if youi dont like being put into a box, weed out the element that puts you there!
Easier said than done I'm afraid.

Les
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