JDM_Stig

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Leave the keys but disconnect ur fuel pump if ur really worried, they will push the car off ur drive/down the road before they start it, then they will boot it, they may get a little distance but not that far, hopefully by that time ur aware so ready incase they return(doubtful)

Jay_bee

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Well, this is the car in question:

MY photos taken yesterday

G-Man1982

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if you have 1 of these its likely you can set up omits zones on your alarm. in other words, bell up downstairs and not upstairs so you can still move about. also you can set chimes. on my alarm we have a chime (just a beep like a corner shop) on the front door, (so the kids dont escape!!) if you have that funtion, you could set it to a pir sensor on a spare zone on your alarm system, put the pir in a quiet part of you garden (i.e.. so it dont beep at passers by) set it so it will only work 3ft off the floor, (so foxes dont set it off. even, plug the pir into your DVR once you get your cctv, that way it will trigger recording on your cams and beep to alert you somones there!! simple really!

just seen your pics... 1st thing i would do would be to buy a 500watt security light aimed at the cars. set the PIR to only work when some ones near the car. only prob is, they cain your elec, and cats/foxes set them off which could make you jump up and look every time.

D4VEW557

while im no crime expert, i work on the theory that if they want your car and they break into your house to get them if they can't find them they would leave as once they interact with you the charges against them increase dramaticlly. now i know that its possible that they wont but ill take that chance.

once an intruder enters your bedroom you are within your right to kick the f**k out of him. i personally have a nice bat next to the bed just incase.

and yes its impossible to predict what will happen in such an event but everything in life is a risk.

I just spent all dayfitting an alarm and imobiliser to my car going to the extent of removing the dash so i could wire it so deep in to the cars harness no one could bypass it when the car is back together. Now after all that work there is no chance im going to leave the keys for them so they can just turn it off.

Jay_bee

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Ahem *cough* ^^^^ I wouldnt spend all day making my motor hard to nick and then post the details of it on a public internet forum

Jay_bee

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Sounds like a good idea, I've actually been discussing something similar a bit earlier with my fiancee's dad (who's a spark), he's going to give me a hand sorting it all out.

scoobs 4 life

If you fit a house alarm make sure you fit 2 panic buttons. 1 near the keypad that you use to switch the alarm on/ off with, and 1 in the bedroom. also it is worth a bit extra to buy a phone dialer to let you know the alarm is going when you are away from the house.
Protect you and your family to the max m8. f**k the car you can get another 1 of them.

Rally fan 555

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They usually will move on to an easier target if you've got measures in place, disklok, wheel clamp etc etc as this lot will take a while to get off and cause more noise etc than it's worth looks like you got close neighbours so even if you can't phone the cops someone will !!

malcs scooby

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hi that is strange buddy its that time year all the skint *** holes are out dark nights ect get a steering lock on there and maybe disconnet afew plugs under the bonnet ect coil pack ect least they cant drive off in it and like the mentioned cctv police dnt give a crap my dad had his brand new focus wheels nicked there was five of them and each one lifted the car while one undone the wheels and smashed it on floor but you could see there faces perfect just that there were forieners didnt want to no.another thing get a clifford alarm other than that get you nextdoors to keep eye out

Rally fan 555

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Nice car Mate When I say Clone I didn't mean in the true sense where they take the chassis no's etc - but the numptys who copied mine used the number plates they made up and went on a speed cam fest !!

Jap Import

Having dogs is not always a detterant.
Gangs will create noise to entice dogs to say a room to the rear of the house and quietly come through the front door, shutting the dog in the said room.

My dog is like my son, yes he's a small part of my home security but he aint gonna stop a gun/knife carrying theif. And I wouldn't ever want him to be in that position, ever.

The dog cost me £2k, my car allot more, however it's not a life is it!

Jay_bee

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Thats the thing, it was 9.30AM on Sunday morning, and a neighbor was stood outside her house watching the guy and he didnt seem in the slightest bit bothered

I think the best thing is to have as many visible deterrents as possible, so Disklok, CCVT, security light which might just be enough to put them off (and I know this is a bit crap but probably make them look for an easier target) but not make it totally impossible for them to take it if they really want it.... without having to come inside, and have an alarm which may put them off that too. Other than that, I dont think theres much more I can do really. I've looked at those security posts but I'm not sure about that.

dazdavies

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I couldnt be arsed to read the whole thread but some of you really do need to get a grip.

The reality of this is if you take your keys to bed with you you'll probably know nothing about this until your woken up at 4am with a punch in the face and a knife to your throat or worse your childrens throat. You won't know if its New year or New York and the last thing on your mind will be to have a go.

All these hard men on here are talking bollocks if they think they're going to get the better of anyone that's willing to confront you in your own home for your car.
These guys mean business.

The only way you could be remotely protected is if you're aware of their presence before they get to you and your loved ones.

My house, garage are alarmed and I have a couple of dogs that roam the house freely at night (one being a 6 stone rotty). Even then I don't consider myself safe.

What the dogs do is make me aware of anyone either already in or trying to get into the house. Even if they try and bait with food they'll still bark and snarl first and that will wake me up.

The fact that you're aware of their presence is usually enough to scare them off. If this happens and they keep coming, give them the keys and tell them to take the car and f*ck off.

Remember if they are willing to confront you in your home they'll probably be a gang and will be very well organised and will more than likey have guns or knives. Give them the keys and claim on the insurance a car be replaced loved ones can't!!

scoobs 4 life

Exactly. Spot on

Turbo2

If you'd done that little task when you first bought the car/moved in, then you wouldn't have got yourself in this situation. I am amazed how few people park their cars in their garages, especially highly-prized cars. It's what they're built for after all. You get cheaper car insurance too. And it keeps the rain off!

Jay_bee

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Couldn't agree more Daz

I wouldnt expect a dog to really stop a determined group of people that have the capacity to break into a house whilst the owners are there.

The dog would be an audible deterrent to any would be thieves, along with all the other deterrents, but more importantly, an early warning system for me on top of the alarm that is now going to be getting fitted to the house and garage.

I for one would have no interest in being a hard *ss when my misses is in the house.

Actually, for a reality check, my fiancee's cousin and her husband and two kids last year had something similar happen to them.
He is a very wealthy guy and they have a nice house and some nice motors and a state of the art alarm system, which they hadnt switched on as he hadnt gone to bed. Anyway, about 10pm, a masked gang burst into the house, held a knife to his throat, went and dragged his wife out of bed in her nighty, put a knife to her throat too. He had to open his safe, gave all the money, jewellery, took his range rover and TVR Sagaris. Fortunately, they left the two kids in bed..... The ordeal lasted about 30 mins. So, anyone up for a crack at people like that? I for one, definitely am not. Take the bloody lot for all I care.

That doesnt mean I dont want to make it a little difficult or at least make them think twice...

Jay_bee

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Totally agree.

One small issue though, I have a feeling that I can get the car in the garage (once I've decanted all the stuff in there to my loft ) but then I wouldnt actually be able to get out of the car... its VERY narrow.

I'm going to do some measuring today

Rally fan 555

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Bloody nightnare that is Mate - what a bunch of low life's - keep reporting any Sus looking idiots to the police and get the Neighborhood watch to do the same - hopefully you may get an increase in patrols around the area, depending on how busy/pro-active your local Bobbies are............

fivetide

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Blackjax only works if you are hijacked doesn't it?

THe one i had on my FTO kicked in if you had driven a bit then the door was opened with the engine running, closed and then the car driven off again (i.e. someone had made you get out of the car then driven it off).

If you simply hand over the keys and they start the car up then it wouldn't work would it?

I am also agreed that getting the key is one thing but they are hardly likely to wait around or come back in once they have it.

Lights all on, coppers on the phone etc etc etc they'd just leg it.

5t.

Rally fan 555

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Yep I agree they don't want to be caught either - so light em up and call the cavalry in, they won't want to be hanging around, cowards - as it looks like it's a populated area you live in ie close neighbours etc......

Jay_bee

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I'm just going to collect the car from its overnight hideout... hope its still there!!!

jrrs1

Jay_Bee,

Sorry to hear about all the hassle with the local Scumbags...
I assume nothing happended last night?

scoobwrx94import

could u put they polls up thats sunk into the ground stop them from moving the car at all u no the ones i mean also i have a cat 2 alarm and immobiliser but still i dont trust it so wen i leave my car at my house overnight instead of my lockup which is just 5 mins away i have quick release steering wheel just take it in the house with me they wont get far without it

Jay_bee

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Hi John,

The only thing that happened last night was a severe lack of sleep!

The car is still there, and it will be stopping there until I've got the CCTV and house alarm fitted ( to the w@nkers!)

I've looked at the security posts but not sure about them yet. I think if a CCTV, house alarm, Disklok, security light, Cat 1 alarm/Immob and a tracker dont deter them enough... they can have it!!

Jeff

The Rig

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Hmm.

can you guys tell me where you live and leave your keys in the xhaust pipe for me please,i need to make a few easy £££

thats exactly what your saying,o.k i need to,if i am careful,use a glass cutter to get in your house and wahay,your keys are on the table and off i drive.

i hear what people say about gangs/knives but if i pushed you to one side in the street and screamed give me your wallet and car keys,id like to think most WOULDNT.

granted faced with the choice my wife gets knifed or the car keys,its an easy choice,just hope she heals cleanly enough,but if i did have to give my keys over,i would of course,but why do people insist on bending over and gifting theives ?

Jay_bee

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Thats great if someone leaves their keys right next to a window, but how will a glass cutter stop a motion sensor on the CCTV and the PIR on the house alarm? Needless to say, you'd slip away totally un-noticed as I you select 'whisper mode' on the dash of the stealth scoob. "what flat four rumble??", and when the owner didnt hear their car being started, they wouldnt ring the old bill immediately and they probably wouldnt contact their tracker company either....

All joking aside though, its a good point and I do know where you're coming from in fairness, and I actually pointed something similar out to someone that posted specifics about their car alarm system's wiring

dazdavies

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You, my friend, are clueless.

The first thing that's going to happen if people break into your house at stupid oclock in the morning is that you're not going to be able to think straight.

The truth is unless you've got a Glock or a Browning in your hand waiting for the f*ckers to walk through that door you'll be experiencing nothing but fear and panic. They'll crack you square on and demand the keys. I gaurantee you'll not be able to pass them over quick enough.

I'm certainly not saying to leave the keys on plain view but if someone comes into your house without knowing where they are and is willing to confront you for them then I sh*t you not the best thing to do is give them what they want. Become the hero at that point and you've more than a fair chance of meeting your maker.

al02uk

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you should do what happened me tonight,

came in from work and the dog chewed my car key and the wifes car key so much you can't tell the difference.

With a bit of luck they would end up driving off in the Picanto instead

The Rig

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dont judge others by your own actions

clueless

as i said if you read properly,if i were given the choice of keys/family etc then yeah,no brainer,but to have the mentality of defeat on assumptions then just leave your house/car unlocked and be done with it.

dazdavies

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Reality check dude!

I'm 6ft 1, 18st and was a Royal Marine for 10 years I like to think I can look after myself but by the same token I know my limits. If I was certain that guns and or knives werent in the equation then i'd get stuck in. But again the reality is these days you just cant be sure and a screw driver is equally fatal.

You're missig my point though I'm not saying make it easy for them and leave everything on view what I am saying is that if it gets to a point when they are in your house and they know you're there. There's no assumptions being made here if they come into your house with you there then they are very serious and unless you A: have a gun in your hand and be willing to use it or B: Are actually superman then you haven't got a prayer. If you think otherwise it WILL be your funeral that your nearest and dearest attend. I cannot put it any plainer than that