Impreza P1 or STI Ver.VI Type R?
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Indeed, hence why its a coupe.
As for the 'better' spring rate and gear ratios, that is purely subjective to the individuals requirements.
I found the gearing spot on. It provides a slightly improved acceleration due to being a shorter, and closer ration (IIRC)
As for the spring rate.... dont be such a wuss
As for the 'better' spring rate and gear ratios, that is purely subjective to the individuals requirements.
I found the gearing spot on. It provides a slightly improved acceleration due to being a shorter, and closer ration (IIRC)
As for the spring rate.... dont be such a wuss
Me - i run a P1 with Exe tc coilovers, 6 speed dccd, the R180 plated rear diff / two pots and an RCM engine so I kind of occupy the middle ground. The rcm engine makes the Spec C ratios feel like a close ratio box
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Twas a jest
Sounds like you got a great setup, although I think its fair to say... a lot more focused than the standard P1 set up, some would say more akin to the Type R set up
Mine had Apexi N1 coilovers plus a load of other suspension mods done in Japan
Also, there is the slight issue of P1 owners saying "go for the P1", just as us Type R owners (or ex-owner in my case) are saying "go for the Type R"... In otherwords... biased as hell
All good stuff though
(and to really sit on the fence, either car will be a fantastic purchase as both are excellent cars)
Sounds like you got a great setup, although I think its fair to say... a lot more focused than the standard P1 set up, some would say more akin to the Type R set up
Mine had Apexi N1 coilovers plus a load of other suspension mods done in Japan
Also, there is the slight issue of P1 owners saying "go for the P1", just as us Type R owners (or ex-owner in my case) are saying "go for the Type R"... In otherwords... biased as hell
All good stuff though
(and to really sit on the fence, either car will be a fantastic purchase as both are excellent cars)
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I don't seem to get oversteer (yet) perhaps i'm not pushing it hard enough?
i'm a novice to the Type R though as i've only owned it for a couple of weeks
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(apart from the P1 owners)
Once you've got the hang of the DCCD and what you can achieve with it, the handling is amazing, you can (and I'm only going off what mine was like) almost completely eradicate understeer and have a little planned oversteer if you want it (and unplanned if you dont know what you're doing)
I wish I still had mine.
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indeed although it can be seen as a gimmick,i've actually started using it for the quick cornering/roundabout malarkey and i'm atually impressed that you can feel the difference it makes to the speed you can go (legally) round corners/roundabouts.
I don't seem to get oversteer (yet) perhaps i'm not pushing it hard enough?
i'm a novice to the Type R though as i've only owned it for a couple of weeks
I don't seem to get oversteer (yet) perhaps i'm not pushing it hard enough?
i'm a novice to the Type R though as i've only owned it for a couple of weeks
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I think of my set up as beyond Type R actually, given that Exe tc is way better than oem and I have all the other important bits from a type r that they didn't put on to the p1- electric mirrors are just unnecessary weight as far as I'm concerned and climate control means nowt to me.
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If you don't get your Type R to oversteer then the rear R180 diff must be worn like mine is at the moment Now it's an understeered pig even with the DCCD all the way back
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I only feel the need to change the settings in the wet Or when driving really hard on a autocross track.
If you don't get your Type R to oversteer then the rear R180 diff must be worn like mine is at the moment Now it's an understeered pig even with the DCCD all the way back
If you don't get your Type R to oversteer then the rear R180 diff must be worn like mine is at the moment Now it's an understeered pig even with the DCCD all the way back
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PS what tyres do you have on your car? with 29k on mine she doesnt oversteer
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Totally agree with that.
In terms what it means to the OP, you've got a
P1 that is more Type R like (and beyond) in its handling than a P1
(and the elec folding mirrors are worth at least another 5bhp )
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I think the P1 handles well, the type R is more.... on the edge but more adjustable due to the dccd, best way to put it (even better with the quick rack also ) shame it only came on the limiteds
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Ah, but under the 'gentlemans agreement' in Japan, it probably equates to more... *whispers*...like an extra 10 - 15bhp but dont tell anyone...
Regarding the quick rack, I've only one thing to say on that....
....should have gone to spec savers...
Oops, wrong thing, I meant... should have got a Type R Ltd
Regarding the quick rack, I've only one thing to say on that....
....should have gone to spec savers...
Oops, wrong thing, I meant... should have got a Type R Ltd
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Judging by the number of owners that seem incapable of keeping them on the black stuff (usually newbies), I'd have thought Grade A / Scooby Teknix would do a roaring trade in them
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Its meant to understeer when its all the way back on the green you move it forward to reduce the understeer have a look in the tech section archive for how to use it and I use it both in the wet and dry
Tony
PS what tyres do you have on your car? with 29k on mine she doesnt oversteer
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PS what tyres do you have on your car? with 29k on mine she doesnt oversteer
http://www.btinternet.com/~john.fels...ffenglish2.jpg
Compare these two vids
First one with the DCCD on 0%, fully open/Green
YouTube - Subaru DCCD 0% Drift
And then here's another vid with the DCCD on 40%
YouTube - Subaru DCCD 40% Drift
You can clearly see that more power goes to the front wheels in the second vid with the DCCD winded up to 40% making it more neutral.
Also check out this vid in japanese (with a distribution chart in English) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHZSgXXC2x8
I have tested the DCCD function quite a lot on a airfield and also on snow.
At the moment I'm using Falken FK452:s.
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How can locking the DCCD reduce understeer as it fully locked locks the center diff and gives you about 50/50 distribution between front and rear axle? While being fully open/Green gives an open center diff with 64/36 rear/front distribution?
http://www.btinternet.com/~john.fels...ffenglish2.jpg
Compare these two vids
First one with the DCCD on 0%, fully open/Green
YouTube - Subaru DCCD 0% Drift
And then here's another vid with the DCCD on 40%
YouTube - Subaru DCCD 40% Drift
You can clearly see that more power goes to the front wheels in the second vid with the DCCD winded up to 40% making it more neutral.
Also check out this vid in japanese (with a distribution chart in English) YouTube - WRX-RA STi DCCD
I have tested the DCCD function quite a lot on a airfield and also on snow.
At the moment I'm using Falken FK452:s.
http://www.btinternet.com/~john.fels...ffenglish2.jpg
Compare these two vids
First one with the DCCD on 0%, fully open/Green
YouTube - Subaru DCCD 0% Drift
And then here's another vid with the DCCD on 40%
YouTube - Subaru DCCD 40% Drift
You can clearly see that more power goes to the front wheels in the second vid with the DCCD winded up to 40% making it more neutral.
Also check out this vid in japanese (with a distribution chart in English) YouTube - WRX-RA STi DCCD
I have tested the DCCD function quite a lot on a airfield and also on snow.
At the moment I'm using Falken FK452:s.
I said moving it forward reduces understeer, ie moving the dccd towards the front of the car (forwards) so going up the greens and into the oranges (plus I dont use lock on the road )
Moving it backwards (all the way into the last green) gives you more understeer, so to make it more neutral you move it forwards into the orange makes sense now?
Tony
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Ok your confusing yourself
I said moving it forward reduces understeer, ie moving the dccd towards the front of the car (forwards) so going up the greens and into the oranges (plus I dont use lock on the road )
Moving it backwards (all the way into the last green) gives you more understeer, so to make it more neutral you move it forwards into the orange makes sense now?
Tony
I said moving it forward reduces understeer, ie moving the dccd towards the front of the car (forwards) so going up the greens and into the oranges (plus I dont use lock on the road )
Moving it backwards (all the way into the last green) gives you more understeer, so to make it more neutral you move it forwards into the orange makes sense now?
Tony
In MY car anyway ORANGE/full lock equals 50/50 distribution and a fully locked center diff. The car is not so pleasant to turn in low speed because of the center diff not allowing differences in speed between front and rear axles.
Green/fully open 36/64 standard mode. Car is definitely oversteered and center diff is fully open.
I still don't get how you can say that you get more understeer by turning the DCCD to green and therefore giving MORE power to the rear wheels?
Sounds to me like you have mixed up understeer and oversteer.
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