rollypolly

There is nothing wrong with speed. It's the deceleration that might be a problem. Especisally if the vehicle in question uses another car , complete with family,to decelerate. As it bounces off it!! Just think how you would feel if your family were injured and the police had been given details of the offending nutter. I would always report a madman/woman driver.

Polly

urban

iTrader: (1)

Police asked me if I would be willing to give evidence if necessary.

Rang me up the following evening to say that they'd been to Mr X's house and had a word.


THis really pisses me off now because most people you see on a roundabout do this type of behaviour.
Swap over from outside lane to inside lane on the exit

gallois

if a roundabout is cuttable, then best not try to drive alongside another car really. sit behind it, it may take you 0.25seconds longer to get home, but may save you hours at the bodyshop.

Leslie

Would you agree however that if you do have an accident, whether your fault or not, that the faster you drive, the smaller your safety margins, and also that the damage and/or injury is likely to be worse?

Les

urban

iTrader: (1)

Yes, but if I'm slightly in front sitting in the inside lane minding my own business and some ***** comes past in outside lane and decides to enter my lane on the exit then I've the right to be fcuked off with him/her.

Ash burton

I was on my way home from work about 6months ago and someone jumped a set of lights almost taking me out i stopped in time and shouted a few choice words, i thought nothing more of it untill the next day the police came a knocking. It turns out two cars behind me was a very high up copper (in an unmarked car)who decided to have a word with this bloke but now i have been told i have to go to court as a witness even though i don't want to.

Klaatu

Depends. I was recently involved in a minor smash recently here in Aus. Approaching a "T" intersection (Junction, LOL), I am on the down stripe about 50m away, approaching the "top", I see another car pull up on the "top" part, ready to turn right, to pull into my opposite lane. Anyway, I can see "the driver" is going a bit fast, wet day, leaves on the road, "the driver" seems to boot it, after giving way, but to jump their on-coming vehicle. Driver loses it, I see all this happening, so I take evasive action, it's clear to my left so I use that room, "the driver" strikes my rear wheel arch ever so slightly, but strikes my wheel a bit harder. If I hadn't "seen" (Based on my training and what to "look" for) what "the driver" was doing *BEFORE* "the driver" turned, I am sure it would have been much worse.

Proper training works.

Leslie

Yes of course it does, and it needs to be tempered with a bit of good sense as well! I am the first to agree that driving defensively and being ready for a situation created by someone else is praiseworthy.

That however does not detract from the point I made to Rollypolly over her generalisation that speed is not dangerous. You cant always allow for another man's accident for example, as you have mentioned, since the bloke still hit you on that occasion.

Les

Klaatu

Speed is not a problem. But to have been trained to drive "quickly" (Which is vastly different to driving fast, untrained), and understand how a vehicle handles (Hooligan Vulcan, you know where the limits are, same with ANY machine), and weather conditions etc etc, you can drive, at "speed" *and* be safe, Safer in fact than at lower "speeds".

An example for you. While I lived in Wellington, NZ, that region was fraught with danger on the roads, basically they are trucked. Anyway, fairly consitently over 9 years, ~50% of all crashes occured at intersections (Junctions, y'know how long I had to search my memory for the English term for same? LOL), below the speed limit. Why? Not speed. Bad roads, very likely in NZ. Drugs/ddrink, no! So, what was it. Driver error. That is training related.

Leslie

Yes I agree absolutely with the points that you make. Accidents are largely the result of inattention and foolish actions.

My point was that you can never fully allow for the fatal error made by someone else and causing an accident that you are unable to avoid. I was saying that the faster you are going, the more difficult it will be to avoid the other man's accident and the greater the potential damage of course.

That could well have happened to me in my "hooligan Vulcan" or any other machine of course. I extended a great deal of effort to try to ensure that never happened over all the many years that I did the job. I did have two very close ones due to manal errors by others who were not looking where they were going, but luck was with us at the time! People have been known to wake up screaming in the night over such possibilities!

Les