Surprised by a Clio 197
19 October 2009, 10:34 AM
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brilliant lol
we can all however generalise, Scooby's are the car choice of the council estate chav that couldn't afford the insurance or running costs of an Evo, probably the type of person (not too dissimilar from yourself) who had little to no education and fails to correctly spell things that are already written out in front of them
400bhp is about typical Subaru owner estimates on here. I'm guessing you upped da boost, put an airfilter, decat and backbox on and hey presto it's a supercar?
Banny - Impressive! Dyno Dynamics too, however, dont they just make up calculated losses? 600bhp in a Scoob is about 200bhp at the wheels? :P
we can all however generalise, Scooby's are the car choice of the council estate chav that couldn't afford the insurance or running costs of an Evo, probably the type of person (not too dissimilar from yourself) who had little to no education and fails to correctly spell things that are already written out in front of them
400bhp is about typical Subaru owner estimates on here. I'm guessing you upped da boost, put an airfilter, decat and backbox on and hey presto it's a supercar?
Banny - Impressive! Dyno Dynamics too, however, dont they just make up calculated losses? 600bhp in a Scoob is about 200bhp at the wheels? :P
hmmm, sure that reads nigh on 500 ATW not 200
Banny
19 October 2009, 10:39 AM
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400bhp is about typical Subaru owner estimates on here. I'm guessing you upped da boost, put an airfilter, decat and backbox on and hey presto it's a supercar? 
19 October 2009, 10:40 AM
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brilliant lol
we can all however generalise, Scooby's are the car choice of the council estate chav that couldn't afford the insurance or running costs of an Evo, probably the type of person (not too dissimilar from yourself) who had little to no education and fails to correctly spell things that are already written out in front of them
400bhp is about typical Subaru owner estimates on here. I'm guessing you upped da boost, put an airfilter, decat and backbox on and hey presto it's a supercar?
Banny - Impressive! Dyno Dynamics too, however, dont they just make up calculated losses? 600bhp in a Scoob is about 200bhp at the wheels? :P
we can all however generalise, Scooby's are the car choice of the council estate chav that couldn't afford the insurance or running costs of an Evo, probably the type of person (not too dissimilar from yourself) who had little to no education and fails to correctly spell things that are already written out in front of them
400bhp is about typical Subaru owner estimates on here. I'm guessing you upped da boost, put an airfilter, decat and backbox on and hey presto it's a supercar?
Banny - Impressive! Dyno Dynamics too, however, dont they just make up calculated losses? 600bhp in a Scoob is about 200bhp at the wheels? :P
whats wrong with living on a council estate and having a poor eductaion ?, it's not always by choice
are you saying all people who do are chavs and don't deserve as much respect and consideration as those who don't ? thats not nice.
as for your coment about the power read my spec. your more than welcome to come and check mine is real.
19 October 2009, 10:41 AM
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Jesus !
Another grammer troll !
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P.S. I'm sure some suicidal feckwit in a Clio could "'ave me", but that's just about risk taking and ignoring the consequences.... ( 300 bhp/ton ).
Another grammer troll !
dunx
P.S. I'm sure some suicidal feckwit in a Clio could "'ave me", but that's just about risk taking and ignoring the consequences.... ( 300 bhp/ton ).
19 October 2009, 11:02 AM
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whats wrong with living on a council estate and having a poor eductaion ?, it's not always by choice
are you saying all people who do are chavs and don't deserve as much respect and consideration as those who don't ? thats not nice.
as for your coment about the power read my spec. your more than welcome to come and check mine is real.
are you saying all people who do are chavs and don't deserve as much respect and consideration as those who don't ? thats not nice.
as for your coment about the power read my spec. your more than welcome to come and check mine is real.
This is too easy :P
I don't actually believe what I just wrote, refer back to your original generalised view of 'Cleos' (sorry but that is hardly grammar or spelling police stuff) and you might realise this was made as a tongue in cheek comment. A couple of my friends own Impreza's and come from money, so I just put it down to too much Gran Turismo on the playstation and bad taste more than anything
dunx - most moderately well driven Rover Metro's could probably 'have you', as once you start nearing the limit the car starts to show it's true potential... for understeering into ditches and bus shelters. Best sticking to racing Punto's from the lights, the 4WD should see you through to victory before any real level of talent is needed and you're left looking foolish :P
19 October 2009, 11:12 AM
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LOL
I don't actually believe what I just wrote, refer back to your original generalised view of 'Cleos' (sorry but that is hardly grammar or spelling police stuff) and you might realise this was made as a tongue in cheek comment. A couple of my friends own Impreza's and come from money, so I just put it down to too much Gran Turismo on the playstation and bad taste more than anything
:P
I don't actually believe what I just wrote, refer back to your original generalised view of 'Cleos' (sorry but that is hardly grammar or spelling police stuff) and you might realise this was made as a tongue in cheek comment. A couple of my friends own Impreza's and come from money, so I just put it down to too much Gran Turismo on the playstation and bad taste more than anything
:P
my coment about hairdressers is fact not fiction although a lot of them can afford to upgrade to a vw beetle
i'm only jesting in all this i always take all these threads with the intention they are written, as a bit of fun
i don't come from a council background myslef either i have been lucky enough to have a good upbringing, good enough to know i'm no keyboard warrior.
i just wanted to make sure my comment was taken in jest and not to try to provoke the wrong sort of reactions or some kind of slagging match with people i have never met.
19 October 2009, 11:21 AM
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I drive a Hawkeye STI 361/412 and I couldn't get away from one of these on the bends yesterday was bloody surprising!
Then when we got on the straight and I hesitated it shot off past me, finally caught back up when it was in traffic but again couldn't keep with it. Remembered why I don't drive the misses 1.2 Punto often now
Then when we got on the straight and I hesitated it shot off past me, finally caught back up when it was in traffic but again couldn't keep with it. Remembered why I don't drive the misses 1.2 Punto often now
You must drive like a right fanny.
Cmon peeps keep the my car is faster than your car going.lmhao
19 October 2009, 11:24 AM
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This is a great thread! Good fun reading.
Although, this weekend, a friend of mine (just sold his 182) was driving my standard MY05 sti and reckoned the sti will definately go a little quicker round a dry corner than his clio did, and in a straight line, its no contest.
Still though, if i didn't you'd be pretty pissed, initial cost, insurance costs, and 20mpg vs 35-40 in the 182!
The clio is good fun to drive, very go kart like, but its still no sti.
Although, this weekend, a friend of mine (just sold his 182) was driving my standard MY05 sti and reckoned the sti will definately go a little quicker round a dry corner than his clio did, and in a straight line, its no contest.
Still though, if i didn't you'd be pretty pissed, initial cost, insurance costs, and 20mpg vs 35-40 in the 182!
The clio is good fun to drive, very go kart like, but its still no sti.
19 October 2009, 11:27 AM
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dunx - most moderately well driven Rover Metro's could probably 'have you', as once you start nearing the limit the car starts to show it's true potential... for understeering into ditches and bus shelters. Best sticking to racing Punto's from the lights, the 4WD should see you through to victory before any real level of talent is needed and you're left looking foolish :P
And yes, it handles fine now.........or it will when it's going again
19 October 2009, 11:43 AM
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TingTongPJ - dont worry, I realised that, so I'll forgive you for just having bad taste
alcazar - again, I know most Impreza owners are large skin headed Boy George looking neanderthal's, who love nothing better than potting the brown, so I'll politely decline your wonderful offer
I never said it's not possible to make a Subaru handle either, just that as standard the handling is like a heavy front engined FF car on the limit, but thankfully the 4WD grip glosses over it well enough for owners to think they can drive a bit :P
Still, I do enjoy listening to Impreza owners bleetings of epic triumphs they have had in the wet over Ferrari Enzo's
alcazar - again, I know most Impreza owners are large skin headed Boy George looking neanderthal's, who love nothing better than potting the brown, so I'll politely decline your wonderful offer
I never said it's not possible to make a Subaru handle either, just that as standard the handling is like a heavy front engined FF car on the limit, but thankfully the 4WD grip glosses over it well enough for owners to think they can drive a bit :P
Still, I do enjoy listening to Impreza owners bleetings of epic triumphs they have had in the wet over Ferrari Enzo's
19 October 2009, 12:05 PM
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I'm quite small, got lots of hair, not particularly good looking and am definitely heteroI think I can put this whole thing to bed now, actually:
We just all need to remember that the Clio is, when all said and done, French built
It may go well,.......... but not for long, it may look nice,.............. but will soon turn into a rust mark on the tarmac, it may be nice inside,........... until bits drop off, or start squeaking, it may have lots of electrical toys,.............. until they all stop working due to dodgy French electrics
My lad's car is in for a new gearbox under warranty as I type. Known fault on 197's apparently
Less than 3 years oldAny comeback?
Oh and don't mention mine being off the road..........that was self-inflicted
19 October 2009, 12:14 PM
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clio 197
Borrowed a Clio 197 from my local Renault dealer about a year ago. Useless, unless you cane the **** off it. Any good turbo diesel would be able to catch you napping and kick you **** ! I have now bought a 2009 WRX and it absolutely murders hot hatches like the 197, so easy to drive quick. Really need an exhaust though as it's way too quiet !!
19 October 2009, 12:19 PM
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LOL, again, diametrically opposite to the truth in my case, but hey, don't let the truth get in your way I'm quite small, got lots of hair, not particularly good looking and am definitely hetero
I think I can put this whole thing to bed now, actually:
We just all need to remember that the Clio is, when all said and done, French built
It may go well,.......... but not for long, it may look nice,.............. but will soon turn into a rust mark on the tarmac, it may be nice inside,........... until bits drop off, or start squeaking, it may have lots of electrical toys,.............. until they all stop working due to dodgy French electrics
My lad's car is in for a new gearbox under warranty as I type. Known fault on 197's apparently Less than 3 years old
Any comeback?
Oh and don't mention mine being off the road..........that was self-inflicted
I'm quite small, got lots of hair, not particularly good looking and am definitely heteroI think I can put this whole thing to bed now, actually:
We just all need to remember that the Clio is, when all said and done, French built
It may go well,.......... but not for long, it may look nice,.............. but will soon turn into a rust mark on the tarmac, it may be nice inside,........... until bits drop off, or start squeaking, it may have lots of electrical toys,.............. until they all stop working due to dodgy French electrics
My lad's car is in for a new gearbox under warranty as I type. Known fault on 197's apparently
Less than 3 years oldAny comeback?
Oh and don't mention mine being off the road..........that was self-inflicted
lolFrench build isn't as bad as people tend to think, I'm on 110k on a totally stock engine (no internal mods whatsoever), stock clutch and stock gearbox
Not bad considering it had cams after 30k odd, ITB's shortly after and was charged on 90k. All my friend had to do on his scoob was drive it and it went through 2 bottom ends in less than 6 months ... and since when were Clio's ever nice inside? My Ph1 172 would make you want to stab your own eyes out it's that hideous!
I'm guessing the problem with your lads car is down to the syncro's going, fast high rpm changes they dont like! Think of a Clio gearbox in the same term as an Impreza piston, make of chocolate
19 October 2009, 12:44 PM
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i had a clio sport 172, i loved it handled brilliantly but its nothing on the scooby
my 2000MY turbo 200
0-62 in 6.1 0-100 in 14.8
Clio Sport 172 0-62 in 7.0 0-100 in 17.7.
The classic shud win surely
btw are u guys saying the classic isnt as quick as the newer versions or the other way around.
and dont dismiss the clio's so easily, they handle well and in fast road driving i bet most people wont be seeing it dissapear away from the rear window.
my 2000MY turbo 200
0-62 in 6.1 0-100 in 14.8
Clio Sport 172 0-62 in 7.0 0-100 in 17.7.
The classic shud win surely
btw are u guys saying the classic isnt as quick as the newer versions or the other way around.
and dont dismiss the clio's so easily, they handle well and in fast road driving i bet most people wont be seeing it dissapear away from the rear window.
19 October 2009, 12:46 PM
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dunx - most moderately well driven Rover Metro's could probably 'have you', as once you start nearing the limit the car starts to show it's true potential... for understeering into ditches and bus shelters. Best sticking to racing Punto's from the lights, the 4WD should see you through to victory before any real level of talent is needed and you're left looking foolish :P
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P.S. Are you Daz's alter-ego ?
19 October 2009, 12:50 PM
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You, my friend, should give your car away for free ...
TX.
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I drive a Hawkeye STI 361/412 and I couldn't get away from one of these on the bends yesterday was bloody surprising!
Then when we got on the straight and I hesitated it shot off past me, finally caught back up when it was in traffic but again couldn't keep with it. Remembered why I don't drive the misses 1.2 Punto often now
Then when we got on the straight and I hesitated it shot off past me, finally caught back up when it was in traffic but again couldn't keep with it. Remembered why I don't drive the misses 1.2 Punto often now
19 October 2009, 01:08 PM
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I'm going to buy an Impreza so will I be allowed to make sweeping generalisations then, as this isn't remotely fair
19 October 2009, 01:33 PM
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Dont worry jesus, i like french cars owned a few renaults but mainly pugs, wont go back to renault because they really suck (loved the cars, hated the dealers), and im on scoob number 3 now, no bottom end rebuilts on any of them and the good thing about my subaru dealer is that he always tightens up the sump plug unlike some renault dealer(s) that use to be in heaton moor
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owned a few renaults but mainly pugs, wont go back to renault because they really suck (loved the cars, hated the dealers), and im on scoob number 3 now, no bottom end rebuilts on any of them and the good thing about my subaru dealer is that he always tightens up the sump plug unlike some renault dealer(s) that use to be in heaton moor Tony
19 October 2009, 04:04 PM
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He virtually knew it was going to be so before it went in, and the dealer did too as soon as he mentioned the fault.
Oh, and his interior is a vast improvement on mine in my classic Scoob, even with three extra gauges, a wheel out of a WR1 and v6 STi seats
Mind, it IS very similar to the one in the 1.2 he was loaned while his was in.............
same number of gauges too
19 October 2009, 04:18 PM
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