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Old 28 October 2009, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Hysteria1983
I totally agree Devildog, that is the reason why I said humans are stupid.

We (humans) are the only living creatures on this planet who will kill each other for reasons other than food (with a few limited exceptions throughout history).
no, not stupid, evil, nasty sick yes, and not all humans eh
I Think you will find foxes kill for the hell of it as well
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Originally Posted by Hysteria1983
Well, not that I agree with two wrongs making a right, but someone/something needs to teach them a lesson.

Also like The Rig said, the dog should have been on a lead, that way it would never have happened, and the poor animal wouldn't be dead.

As much as it's made to sound like the dog's head was kicked in by some hoody yobs, it isn't always as black and white as that. These 'hoodies' may have been attacked by a dog before hence their reaction. Not that I am making excuses. The tiny puppy probably wouldn't have even made a mark with it's tiny milk teeth, but some humans are very stupid and are very quick to react before they think.

Just some food for thought.
you have got to be having a fookin laugh mate, this is a 10 wk old jack russell so its tiny, you will of seen bigger cats!! Yes the dog should of been on a lead but hey, GET REAL. the only reason a lead is needed is to restrain and lets be honest, what harm could it (the pup) of done? they are not a danger to anyone that young!! and as for being attacked before that is just a cop out imo. these tossers that smoke there weed and play "gangster" after school (assuming they even bother going) are cleverer than you are giving them credit for, they have blatantly kicked that animal because it is DEFENCELESS, no other reason whatsoever. this is how they operate, preying on the weak, vulnerable, naive and innocent for there own twisted enjoyment. HYSTERIA1983, drag yourself into the modern scum ridden society today and smell the coffee!! its a cruel world, scum like this just exist to cause misery, they just WANT what decent hard working people have earned, or, as sadly this is the case just destroy. maybe you are fortunate enough to not have to experience this sort of inner-city madness, or alternatively have just been given a very sheltered background, either way, i hope you never have to endure this level of cruelty in any form. ps. there is nothing to suggest that something equally terrible would not have happened even if this pup was on a lead. sorry for going on but i am surrounded by these arrogant little sh1tes, the only way out i can see is to sadly consider emigrating
Old 28 October 2009, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by The Rig
The main question should be why wasnt it on a lead ?
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Old 28 October 2009, 09:53 PM
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Are you implying that it is ok to kick a puppy that is not on a lead?

OK not very smart to have it off the lead but there is something very wrong with a group of kids (hoddies so i guess kids) who do such a abborant thing. would you kick it in the head if off of a lead, i for one would not and i do not believe my kids or anyone else i know would either.

It is wrong!

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Originally Posted by my06 ppp silver
you have got to be having a fookin laugh mate, this is a 10 wk old jack russell so its tiny, you will of seen bigger cats!! Yes the dog should of been on a lead but hey, GET REAL. the only reason a lead is needed is to restrain and lets be honest, what harm could it (the pup) of done? they are not a danger to anyone that young!! and as for being attacked before that is just a cop out imo. these tossers that smoke there weed and play "gangster" after school (assuming they even bother going) are cleverer than you are giving them credit for, they have blatantly kicked that animal because it is DEFENCELESS, no other reason whatsoever. this is how they operate, preying on the weak, vulnerable, naive and innocent for there own twisted enjoyment. HYSTERIA1983, drag yourself into the modern scum ridden society today and smell the coffee!! its a cruel world, scum like this just exist to cause misery, they just WANT what decent hard working people have earned, or, as sadly this is the case just destroy. maybe you are fortunate enough to not have to experience this sort of inner-city madness, or alternatively have just been given a very sheltered background, either way, i hope you never have to endure this level of cruelty in any form. ps. there is nothing to suggest that something equally terrible would not have happened even if this pup was on a lead. sorry for going on but i am surrounded by these arrogant little sh1tes, the only way out i can see is to sadly consider emigrating
No need to get your pants in a twist mate. We cam all have an opinion.

I am in the modern world, and there is NO WAY I will bring my children up to be like those little *******.

If my two so much as answer me back they get mins on the naughty step! And they are only just out of nappies (gotta start them young).

I am not for one second defending what those evil and vile humans did, but sometimes we have to just take a step back.

If it were my son that were to have been found to have done that.... well I am hoping that they don't turn out like that.

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Old 28 October 2009, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Are you implying that it is ok to kick a puppy that is not on a lead?

OK not very smart to have it off the lead but there is something very wrong with a group of kids (hoddies so i guess kids) who do such a abborant thing. would you kick it in the head if off of a lead, i for one would not and i do not believe my kids or anyone else i know would either.

It is wrong!
I don't think that he meant that Paul, not for one second. Just that all dogs 'should' be on a lead. Just in a general sense regardless of this situation.

The legal requirement for dogs being on leads is very fuzzy, it's not illegal for them to be off the lead in certain areas, but in areas where there are cars, children and other things that are considered to scare a dog the owner is required by law to keep them on a lead. In open countryside it's a different story, but no real hard and fast law (that I know of) so correct me if I am wrong.
Old 28 October 2009, 10:03 PM
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A dog on a lead, is about as much fun as a Scooby in a locked garage.

A severe battering would suffice.

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Originally Posted by Hysteria1983
No need to get your pants in a twist mate. We cam all have an opinion.

I am in the modern world, and there is NO WAY I will bring my children up to be like those little *******.

If my two so much as answer me back they get mins on the naughty step! And they are only just out of nappies (gotta start them young).

I am not for one second defending what those evil and vile humans did, but sometimes we have to just take a step back.

If it were my son that were to have been found to have done that.... well I am hoping that they don't turn out like that.
noted bud as i said i do feel strongly about these little ***** and once i started typing ....... glad to hear you stand for no **** at home. the world (mainly the UK) would be a better place to live if we all set boundarys like this with our kids. apologies once again
Old 28 October 2009, 10:07 PM
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You have to wonder at the home life of kids like this and the lack of parential control, teaching right from wrong and the lack of boundraries - if caught the police and social services should take a long, hard look at the families as a whole.

Not making any excuses for the scum who did this BTW

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Old 28 October 2009, 10:11 PM
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Absolute disgrace

I hope the scum who did this gets what they deserve.

Pictures of the puppy here;

Schoolgirl watches in horror as hoodie stamps on her puppy's head and kills it | Mail Online
Old 28 October 2009, 10:12 PM
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No worries. As someone who has owned dogs in the past and hoping too soon I feel strongly about never letting them off a lead anywhere near other people. Especially when you don't know how the public will react never mind the dog.

In this particular example, this puppy ran off and this unfortunately led to his death. But the fact of the matter is, if he ran off to a bunch of yobs, he could have also ran off under a car causing a lot more distress on a larger scale.

One reason I said that the pup should have been on a lead. Poor mite.
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anyone else noticed the level of intensity these "animal" threads ALWAYS seem to generate. ok who wants to join me in signing up for the A.L.F. , ..............(joke btw, they do go too far sometimes)
Old 28 October 2009, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Absolute disgrace

I hope the scum who did this gets what they deserve.

Pictures of the puppy here;

Schoolgirl watches in horror as hoodie stamps on her puppy's head and kills it | Mail Online
FOOKIN *******S!!
Old 28 October 2009, 10:16 PM
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Oh and enough with the 'Bud' and 'mate' not that I mind all that but I would prefer 'bird' or 'miss'.....
Old 28 October 2009, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
You have to wonder at the home life of kids like this and the lack of parential control, teaching right from wrong and the lack of boundraries - if caught the police and social services should take a long, hard look at the families as a whole.

Not making any excuses for the scum who did this BTW
I think we're now seeing the full problem of house token kids, where wee slappers could get a free council house if they had a kid, these kids were not brought up in a family, more dragged up and neglected by their slags of mothers, again I'm not excusing the vile little ***** either, It's just my thoughts.

IMHO I hope the little **** who kicked the dog suffers a similar death himself tbh!
Old 28 October 2009, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hysteria1983
Oh and enough with the 'Bud' and 'mate' not that I mind all that but I would prefer 'bird' or 'miss'.....
Heh bud, we will need picture proof, ideally on holiday, bikini clad first mate!
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Heh bud, we will need picture proof, ideally on holiday, bikini clad first mate!
Absolutely
Old 28 October 2009, 10:54 PM
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Haha, it's not bikini season anymore.
Old 28 October 2009, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Hysteria1983
Haha, it's not bikini season anymore.
OK in the bedroom, bra and nickers if you must
Old 28 October 2009, 11:02 PM
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Sorry, but only one member on here gets to see me in my bra and knickers from time to time

When he's been good anyway!
Old 28 October 2009, 11:25 PM
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Yes, I now see why this vicious beast should be kept on a lead
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They probably did it because there was nothing to do and they were bored, thats the usual excuse!!!
Absolute waste of space and will always be.....
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I just hope they realize what they did and feel guilt every time they see a dog, I suspect they were drunk or otherwise incapacitated, must have felt dead hard killing a tiny pup.

I wouldn't batter them, just gives them something to get angry about and they then take it out on something smaller, they should be made to sit in that familes living room and explain themselves and then spend all their free time working in the local dogs home.
Old 29 October 2009, 02:23 AM
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This thread has just topped off ny day

I went out and executed a warrant earlier on a premises which CID belived woudl contain evidence of a robbery, for which the occupant had been nicked.

We got there, gained entry and my God, was it minging! Flies all over, dog **** all over, plates covered in mould, drugs, stolen goods, ripped up floor boards, baby clothes, gardedn at front and rear full of **** etc.

Then shortly after the occupants missus turned up - 16 years old with an 11 month old baby and expecting another one within the next two weeks.

Also in tow were two Staffy pups. After we'd executed the warrant and given her a headache on how to maintian the house, stating it's not fit for animals, humans or the living dead, the silly bint went and fetched the two pups and took them inside. I'm so tempted to go back round tomorrow to put the door through to save life and lib of those pups The baby has gone to SS and the one on the way will be goin there. Hopefully that will prevent scum breeding scum, but I just hope that the RSPCA will take these pups and find them a good home.

The idiot we've nicked got rid of his last pups, but I've not got the heart to tell you how. But the way he did it was as cruel as in this reported article.
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Originally Posted by Hysteria1983

The legal requirement for dogs being on leads is very fuzzy, it's not illegal for them to be off the lead in certain areas, but in areas where there are cars, children and other things that are considered to scare a dog the owner is required by law to keep them on a lead. In open countryside it's a different story, but no real hard and fast law (that I know of) so correct me if I am wrong.
I think I'm going to have to question that. I don't think there is any legal requirement to keep a dog on a lead.

Dogd should be kept "under control" at all times in public places, yes, but that is for reasons of public safety. A puppy off the lead in a park would not be considered to be a risk to public safety and therefore I doubt the 15 year old could be considered in any way to have broken the law.

Puppies need to be socialised. It would hardly be unreasonable to have a young (vaccinated) pup off the lead in a park to let it explore and play. The 15year old must be devestated. All for doing something that should be perfectly acceptable and quite understandable.

To all those saying it should have been on the lead, ok, this particular puppy would still have been alive, but that doesn't change the fact that the scum who did it are still scum. If it hadn't been that dog, it would have been something, or someone, else.
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Originally Posted by Devildog
I think I'm going to have to question that. I don't think there is any legal requirement to keep a dog on a lead.

Dogd should be kept "under control" at all times in public places, yes, but that is for reasons of public safety. A puppy off the lead in a park would not be considered to be a risk to public safety and therefore I doubt the 15 year old could be considered in any way to have broken the law.

Puppies need to be socialised. It would hardly be unreasonable to have a young (vaccinated) pup off the lead in a park to let it explore and play. The 15year old must be devestated. All for doing something that should be perfectly acceptable and quite understandable.

To all those saying it should have been on the lead, ok, this particular puppy would still have been alive, but that doesn't change the fact that the scum who did it are still scum. If it hadn't been that dog, it would have been something, or someone, else.
Hi Devildog... that is why I said ''(correct me if I am wrong)'' in my post, as I admitted I was not 100% on the regulations.

It is a matter of public safety, and like I said, if this puppy had been on a lead, it may still have happened had the girl walked across with the puppy, BUT the pup could have also wondered to a near by road and caused a fatal accident. Especially if it ran in front of an inexperienced driver who decides to swerve, (which we all know shouldn't be done) causing all sorts of damage.

I suppose there could be a whole heap of if's, and's and but's...... so I still stand by what I feel is safest all round, not just for the animal, but for the general public also.

I know the puppy wasn't exactly Kujo, (very far from it in fact), but we cannot give several different set's of rules based on age and cuteness.

Yes I agree that the puppy will thrive from a little run around and some social interaction, BUT as we all seem to be fully aware of the crappy society we now live in, it's not safe to do anything these days.

It's a damn shame when something like this happens, and it does make you wonder what has happened to the youth of today.
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Originally Posted by Hysteria1983
Oh and enough with the 'Bud' and 'mate' not that I mind all that but I would prefer 'bird' or 'miss'.....

I think calling you miss sounds naughty and sexy..Miss Hysteria
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Miss Hysteria .... that could work!

NOW.... refer to me like that at ALL times, until I allow you not too! Otherwise I will punish you!
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Originally Posted by Hysteria1983
Miss Hysteria .... that could work!

NOW.... refer to me like that at ALL times, until I allow you not too! Otherwise I will punish you!

mmmmmmm i like a bit of punishment,of the kinky kind..Aslong as it don't involve nipple clamps or titty twisters im game.. MISS HYSTERIA
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Lol, nah, thats a bit too much. I do not need such apparatus to have the desired affect.


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