Proof: McDoom is a retard
10 November 2009, 01:58 PM
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Oh yes - so they do...
Every phone call, email and internet click stored by 'state spying' databases - Telegraph
Brown deserves everything he gets - and more....
10 November 2009, 02:26 PM
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Gordon Brown isnt just another unpopular politician, he's the main one, Prime Minister, that makes decision for all of us. Therefore all this is just another example of what a prize ball sack this big eared, blind, stuttering ponce is.
I dont listen to Ruppert Murdock views, I listen to Lucy,23, Manchester's views :-)
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I dont listen to Ruppert Murdock views, I listen to Lucy,23, Manchester's views :-)
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10 November 2009, 02:29 PM
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Exactly 
I was at Virginia Water at the weekend. There's an information board explaining about the restoration of the ruins there. Imagine my breathing difficulties when i saw " its' " nestled in amongst the text. Fortunately, somebody had tried to biro it out before i arrived.
I was at Virginia Water at the weekend. There's an information board explaining about the restoration of the ruins there. Imagine my breathing difficulties when i saw " its' " nestled in amongst the text. Fortunately, somebody had tried to biro it out before i arrived.
10 November 2009, 02:40 PM
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Gordon Brown isnt just another unpopular politician, he's the main one, Prime Minister, that makes decision for all of us. Therefore all this is just another example of what a prize ball sack this big eared, blind, stuttering ponce is.
I dont listen to Ruppert Murdock views, I listen to Lucy,23, Manchester's views :-)
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I dont listen to Ruppert Murdock views, I listen to Lucy,23, Manchester's views :-)
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10 November 2009, 03:38 PM
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Gordon Brown isnt just another unpopular politician, he's the main one, Prime Minister, that makes decision for all of us. Therefore all this is just another example of what a prize ball sack this big eared, blind, stuttering ponce is.
I dont listen to Ruppert Murdock views, I listen to Lucy,23, Manchester's views :-)
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I dont listen to Ruppert Murdock views, I listen to Lucy,23, Manchester's views :-)
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I presume that you are a perfect physical specimen?
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10 November 2009, 09:32 PM
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I think most people outside of the SN universe think that the Sun is using this poor mother to mock the prime minster for their own gain.
The best thing that can happen here is for David Cameron to come out and defend Brown whilst supporting the mother. It will then undermine the sun and quire rightly put this whole sorry mess to bed.
My opinion is that Brown has been doing the right thing in writing to the parents of the service men personally. He has a made a couple of spelling mistakes and can't write very well. Let him who is without sin, cast the first stone. That fish was good enough for Jehovah.
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The best thing that can happen here is for David Cameron to come out and defend Brown whilst supporting the mother. It will then undermine the sun and quire rightly put this whole sorry mess to bed.
My opinion is that Brown has been doing the right thing in writing to the parents of the service men personally. He has a made a couple of spelling mistakes and can't write very well. Let him who is without sin, cast the first stone. That fish was good enough for Jehovah.
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10 November 2009, 10:19 PM
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OMG WTF?? I actually agree with you!
As much as i dislike the useless ****, This is all a load of bull$**** TBH, If he had sent a printed letter he would have got it in the neck by most for not taking the time to sit down and write one out, He takes the time to sit down and write one out he gets it for his spelling, A bit rich considering 75 % of the people in here cant spell to save their own life.
As for the woman who gave the note to the press you would think she would have more on her mind than somebody's spelling considering she has just lost a son
As much as i dislike the useless ****, This is all a load of bull$**** TBH, If he had sent a printed letter he would have got it in the neck by most for not taking the time to sit down and write one out, He takes the time to sit down and write one out he gets it for his spelling, A bit rich considering 75 % of the people in here cant spell to save their own life.
As for the woman who gave the note to the press you would think she would have more on her mind than somebody's spelling considering she has just lost a son
She got a personal letter, so what, he made a spelling mistake here and there, happens all day long in all walks of life. Get over it.
The funniest thing is that the SUN are condemning his grammer skills
The one good point to the story is that it has wound so many folk up, right enough
10 November 2009, 10:54 PM
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I think we should all attack the Sun, it's our duty as intelligent Brits
10 November 2009, 11:03 PM
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The ONLY good point was the possibilty that this lady was actually more concerned with troops going to war under equipped and that Brown might be able to do something about it
10 November 2009, 11:05 PM
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Martin :- No I do not cringe. Also the mother never got paid for her interviews.
hutton_d :- Arrrh Ruthie, what a beauty, everything she says must be the truth
F1_FAN :- I cant spell and me grammers' por. I vote Tory but am willing to consider BNP. Anything is better than Labour / Gordon Brown.
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hutton_d :- Arrrh Ruthie, what a beauty, everything she says must be the truth
F1_FAN :- I cant spell and me grammers' por. I vote Tory but am willing to consider BNP. Anything is better than Labour / Gordon Brown.
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11 November 2009, 12:58 PM
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On the whole I agree that he would have been more sensible to have typed the letter even if a handwritten one sounds more personal under the circumstances. The surname mistake is a poor error to make and a bit more checking beforehand would have been sensible.
I sympathise with his writing, mine is if anything worse after I smashed my wrist when I fell off the roof! I would always type a letter if only to be fair on the one who has to read it!
Do not for one moment think I have any truck with the man after the lies and incompetence he and his predecessor who was pretty good at nest feathering of course, just did nothing for the people though, have demonstrated.
I dislike them intensely for the destruction of our society and country of which they are guilty, but at the same time I prefer to see fair play over this letter.
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I sympathise with his writing, mine is if anything worse after I smashed my wrist when I fell off the roof! I would always type a letter if only to be fair on the one who has to read it!
Do not for one moment think I have any truck with the man after the lies and incompetence he and his predecessor who was pretty good at nest feathering of course, just did nothing for the people though, have demonstrated.
I dislike them intensely for the destruction of our society and country of which they are guilty, but at the same time I prefer to see fair play over this letter.
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11 November 2009, 04:01 PM
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I'm sorry but I thnk we are missing the point here.
If Brown's intent was genuine, it would only be reasonable to expect him to get both the recipient's and the deceased's name correct. For him to then try and deny the errors, rather than just simply phone up and apologise for them is unforgivable.
On the basis of both of those points I doubt very much there was anything behind the letter other than trying to be seen to be doing the right thing here.
Messy handwriting is not the issue and as said above is no indication of intelligence.
Getting the names wrong and mispelling relatively simple words is, however, an issue in the absence of, for example, dislexia.
Les, Martin, Trout, I disagree. If the man can't be arsed to pay sufficient attention to the task in hand and get the names right in a "sincere" letter of condolence, that is just not acceptable. To then phone up and do anything other than apologise is unforgivable. Whether or not the mother should have made the issue public is not relevant to the conduct of the man.
If Brown's intent was genuine, it would only be reasonable to expect him to get both the recipient's and the deceased's name correct. For him to then try and deny the errors, rather than just simply phone up and apologise for them is unforgivable.
On the basis of both of those points I doubt very much there was anything behind the letter other than trying to be seen to be doing the right thing here.
Messy handwriting is not the issue and as said above is no indication of intelligence.
Getting the names wrong and mispelling relatively simple words is, however, an issue in the absence of, for example, dislexia.
Les, Martin, Trout, I disagree. If the man can't be arsed to pay sufficient attention to the task in hand and get the names right in a "sincere" letter of condolence, that is just not acceptable. To then phone up and do anything other than apologise is unforgivable. Whether or not the mother should have made the issue public is not relevant to the conduct of the man.
11 November 2009, 04:47 PM
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My exact feelings, in the words of another.
Word for word, I agree 100%
Word for word, I agree 100%
I'm sorry but I thnk we are missing the point here.
If Brown's intent was genuine, it would only be reasonable to expect him to get both the recipient's and the deceased's name correct. For him to then try and deny the errors, rather than just simply phone up and apologise for them is unforgivable.
On the basis of both of those points I doubt very much there was anything behind the letter other than trying to be seen to be doing the right thing here.
Messy handwriting is not the issue and as said above is no indication of intelligence.
Getting the names wrong and mispelling relatively simple words is, however, an issue in the absence of, for example, dislexia.
Les, Martin, Trout, I disagree. If the man can't be arsed to pay sufficient attention to the task in hand and get the names right in a "sincere" letter of condolence, that is just not acceptable. To then phone up and do anything other than apologise is unforgivable. Whether or not the mother should have made the issue public is not relevant to the conduct of the man.
If Brown's intent was genuine, it would only be reasonable to expect him to get both the recipient's and the deceased's name correct. For him to then try and deny the errors, rather than just simply phone up and apologise for them is unforgivable.
On the basis of both of those points I doubt very much there was anything behind the letter other than trying to be seen to be doing the right thing here.
Messy handwriting is not the issue and as said above is no indication of intelligence.
Getting the names wrong and mispelling relatively simple words is, however, an issue in the absence of, for example, dislexia.
Les, Martin, Trout, I disagree. If the man can't be arsed to pay sufficient attention to the task in hand and get the names right in a "sincere" letter of condolence, that is just not acceptable. To then phone up and do anything other than apologise is unforgivable. Whether or not the mother should have made the issue public is not relevant to the conduct of the man.
11 November 2009, 07:26 PM
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I'm sorry but I thnk we are missing the point here.
If Brown's intent was genuine, it would only be reasonable to expect him to get both the recipient's and the deceased's name correct. For him to then try and deny the errors, rather than just simply phone up and apologise for them is unforgivable.
On the basis of both of those points I doubt very much there was anything behind the letter other than trying to be seen to be doing the right thing here.
Messy handwriting is not the issue and as said above is no indication of intelligence.
Getting the names wrong and mispelling relatively simple words is, however, an issue in the absence of, for example, dislexia.
Les, Martin, Trout, I disagree. If the man can't be arsed to pay sufficient attention to the task in hand and get the names right in a "sincere" letter of condolence, that is just not acceptable. To then phone up and do anything other than apologise is unforgivable. Whether or not the mother should have made the issue public is not relevant to the conduct of the man.
If Brown's intent was genuine, it would only be reasonable to expect him to get both the recipient's and the deceased's name correct. For him to then try and deny the errors, rather than just simply phone up and apologise for them is unforgivable.
On the basis of both of those points I doubt very much there was anything behind the letter other than trying to be seen to be doing the right thing here.
Messy handwriting is not the issue and as said above is no indication of intelligence.
Getting the names wrong and mispelling relatively simple words is, however, an issue in the absence of, for example, dislexia.
Les, Martin, Trout, I disagree. If the man can't be arsed to pay sufficient attention to the task in hand and get the names right in a "sincere" letter of condolence, that is just not acceptable. To then phone up and do anything other than apologise is unforgivable. Whether or not the mother should have made the issue public is not relevant to the conduct of the man.
I would describe is actions here as clumsy but sincere, if you are purely interested in believing the worst then of course you can read whatever you like into this story.
11 November 2009, 07:42 PM
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If you read this thread properly you'll see that people are only too pleased to dance with joy at opportunity to put the knife into Brown. Even his looks and disabilities are mocked. I'm surprised that some don't start rejoicing in the loss of his daughter too. Is this how low we allow ourselves to sink?
I would describe is actions here as clumsy but sincere, if you are purely interested in believing the worst then of course you can read whatever you like into this story.
I would describe is actions here as clumsy but sincere, if you are purely interested in believing the worst then of course you can read whatever you like into this story.
Martin, what other people are prepared to do on this thread is their business and no concern of mine.
I'm not reading anything into any story and I'm not purely interested in believing the worst. I'm basing my opnion on fact. He got the names wrong (fact), and he can't spell (fact). He then had the audacity to argue the toss with a woman who had recently lost her son (fact)
What are you basing your opinions on? Because it certainly isn't the relevant facts of the matter.
How it was reported, or the motivation behind the disclosure is irrelevant.
Ultimately, only Brown will know how sincere his writing of the letter actually was, but I'm quite comfortable in maintaining my belief of the position here, even if its cynicism is something you find hard to comprehend.
11 November 2009, 08:31 PM
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Martin, what other people are prepared to do on this thread is their business and no concern of mine.
I'm not reading anything into any story and I'm not purely interested in believing the worst. I'm basing my opnion on fact. He got the names wrong (fact), and he can't spell (fact). He then had the audacity to argue the toss with a woman who had recently lost her son (fact)
What are you basing your opinions on? Because it certainly isn't the relevant facts of the matter.
How it was reported, or the motivation behind the disclosure is irrelevant.
Ultimately, only Brown will know how sincere his writing of the letter actually was, but I'm quite comfortable in maintaining my belief of the position here, even if its cynicism is something you find hard to comprehend.
I'm not reading anything into any story and I'm not purely interested in believing the worst. I'm basing my opnion on fact. He got the names wrong (fact), and he can't spell (fact). He then had the audacity to argue the toss with a woman who had recently lost her son (fact)
What are you basing your opinions on? Because it certainly isn't the relevant facts of the matter.
How it was reported, or the motivation behind the disclosure is irrelevant.
Ultimately, only Brown will know how sincere his writing of the letter actually was, but I'm quite comfortable in maintaining my belief of the position here, even if its cynicism is something you find hard to comprehend.
11 November 2009, 10:10 PM
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and he probably wrote the letter whilst walking down the corridor of 10 downing street?
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12 November 2009, 08:37 AM
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If his condolences were that severe, perhaps he should make it a priority to sort out the equipment fiasco? Or is he still "working on it"?
12 November 2009, 08:40 AM
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He's a politician. He has been most of his adult life. It's his job. He'd have been crucified for not being seen to be doing the right thing.
I'm not sure what cuddly, fluffy planet you live on, but take the rose tinted specks off.
If he can't carry out what should be a relatively simple task without ****ing that up, seriously, what hope did we ever have?