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Old 25 March 2002, 10:46 PM
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Ted ed,

I have found myself in the same situation. Had the TEK 1 fitted last week and am now craving the TEK 2. Oh, and not to forget, a brake upgrade to match!!!

Still very happy and looking forard to the 4hr drive back home for Easter!!
Old 26 March 2002, 11:49 AM
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Steve,

What about reprogramming a MY00 PPP ECU? Can you up the boost further and increase (but retain) the safety fuel cut-out? If so what sort of gains can be made?
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Old 26 March 2002, 11:43 PM
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Hi Pieman,

We wouldn't advise raising the boost any higher than ProDrive already do - you are eating into you safety margin. However, if you have further mods than just the ProDrive backbox, then we can stabilise boost for you if that's become a problem. We can also get your turbo spooling up earlier if you have made any induction mods.

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Old 27 March 2002, 12:45 PM
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I know this will sound a bit boring but two questions-

A) What effect does the drivability chip have on fuel economy?

2) Is the chip easily distinguished from a normal one by the layman(say for instance an insurance assessor?)

Ta.
Old 27 March 2002, 12:53 PM
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Fuel economy will depend on how you drive. The map is slightly richer at 1500-2500 RPM at high loads where there was a lean spot. The map is slightly leaner at high loads and high revs where there was too much fuel.

Physical appearance of the ECU is identical from the outside, though you should tell your insurance company or they don't have to pay up if you make a claim.

Steve
Old 27 March 2002, 12:55 PM
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Can't answer A, but can 2 () - the only change is to the software values residing on your existing ecu. I suspect even the select monitor will still see your ecu as standard, unles they compare the actual map entries.

I'd guess that fuel economy will also improve (engine is running more efficiently, so less fuel for the same progress) - but that it'll be counteracted by your right foot antics

Richard

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Old 27 March 2002, 05:36 PM
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TEK 1 fitted yesterday ... The car is smooooth all the way to ye olde red line now.

I had my own ECU ''TEKKED'' - turned up, had a cup of tea whilst Merv did the remap, refitted and off I went off to enjoy!

It's a big improvement for not a lot of money ... should be a big smilley here or four, but can't work out how to do that, so you'll just have to imagine it! (technothicko here!)

[Edited by PING - 3/27/2002 5:38:18 PM]
Old 27 March 2002, 11:23 PM
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What pisses me off about all this (and no offence to either Ecutek or PE -- a job well done) is that we have to pay 150 quid for something that should have been part of the car when we bought it in the first place.

I wonder if someone should have a stab at claiming one under warranty?
Old 27 March 2002, 11:25 PM
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Carl,

If you're going to do that, get dyno runs from say 3 different dynos, with your car in entirely standard fettle. If the car gets below the book figure in all cases, and has had a few thousand miles to loosen up, then I think you have a pretty watertight case.

Regs.

Steve
Old 27 March 2002, 11:31 PM
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I doubt it -- mine's an EU import and hence out of warranty. It's got 09/99 on the seatbelts, but I haven't actually had the ECU kickplate off to find out what's in it -- probably have a look over the Easter weekend.

Edited to say that 3 dyno runs would probably cost the same as a TEK1

[Edited by carl - 3/27/2002 11:31:47 PM]
Old 27 March 2002, 11:39 PM
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Stephen,

Will be v interested in MY01+ version.

While on the subject, do you know anything about reflashing/replacement of early MY01 ECU's?

Cheers

Simon
Old 27 March 2002, 11:41 PM
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Hi Carl,

3 dyno runs would cost around £150, but would be for the greater good wouldn't it ? Someone actually has to try it, or it won't happen. If you have an 800 or 801 anyway, then you'll have above the book figure anyway, so it's rather academic.

Cheers

Steve
Old 27 March 2002, 11:42 PM
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Hi Simon,

Not doable yet. Watch this space. Rest assured I'll post to ScoobyNet when we crack it.

Steve
Old 28 March 2002, 12:07 AM
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Sorry Stephen didn't make my self clear...

I know your product isn't available for MY01 yet, just looking forward to when it is.

My other question is that I know that there have been some replacements to early MY01 ECU's, which I understand are effectively a reflash due to some hesitancy issues.

I was wondering if in your research into your MY01 product, assuming you have started work on it, could provide any insight into this.

The reason I ask is that my car has suffered a flat spot problem. This first manifested itself in standard form, the car feels like it is being reined back at 4krpm and then comes back to full power at 5k rpm. The problem disappeared after some work was done which probably reset the ECU.

The car now has Scoobysport decat D/P and C/S which was great for a bit, but the problem is now back, as can be seen from a v disappointing RR result, you can literally see the flat spot on the graph.

The car is generally feeling a bit ragged to drive as well and does odd things like occasionally raising revs on gear changes rather than holding.

The point of the question is that as I have heard that early ECU's might be problematic, maybe mine is one of them? I have spoken to 3 dealers about this and none knew anything about ECU changes but one did admit to an outstanding problem similar to mine.

I am going to Scoobysport tomorrow so will have a chat to Pete about it. Hopefully he might have a few clues, at the least get the ECU reset again...till the next time

Cheers

Simon
Old 28 March 2002, 12:14 AM
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Subaru UK do have reprogrammers for some ECUs. But they don't let the dealers have them. Try asking for an area manager, and you might get a different answer.

Cheers

Steve
Old 28 March 2002, 12:32 AM
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Ok, rereading what I wrote once again I did not make myself clear

In a nutshell, are you aware of any recalls/reflashing to MY01 ECU's?

As I say my ininitial discussions with UK dealers has proved fruitless, but I know from I-Club and a few posts here this has been an issue.

Cheers, and thank you for your patience

Simon
Old 28 March 2002, 12:50 AM
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Hi Simon,

I was deliberately vague, because I honestly can't remember which cars it is that the dealers are reflashing. Speak to David on sales@ecutek.com - his memory will be better on this. I know it's one of the new scoobs, though I can't remember whether it's the Impreza or not.

Cheers

Steve
Old 29 March 2002, 11:05 AM
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I've just checked and I have a green label AE802 ECU in my Euro import MY00.
I quite often run my car on normal unleaded fuel, can I still do this with the ecutek?
Does the reprogrammed ecu get rid of the hesitation at 2500 to 3000 revs?
I feel an order coming on!

Old 29 March 2002, 12:52 PM
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Do it Pete
My Dutch my00 had an 802ECU and now it has the drivability one fitted
Ssoooooo much better
Simon.
Old 29 March 2002, 01:03 PM
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Do it Pete
My dutch my00 had an 802ECU and now has the driveability ECU fitted
Ssooooooo much better
No hesitation
Simon
Old 29 March 2002, 03:10 PM
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Whoops... double post
But it,s good
Old 30 March 2002, 10:12 AM
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I wouldn't recommend running any Impreza Turbo on 95RON fuel. Look on the inside of your filler cap - it should say super unleaded only. Might even get rid if your hesitation ! I don't know whether the euro spec cars have this label, but they have the same ECU maps, so the same should apply.

Cheers

Steve
Old 30 March 2002, 11:31 AM
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Euro spec turbos do have the sticker. Mine has it.

Cheers,

Wrexy.
Old 30 March 2002, 12:18 PM
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My (UK supplied) handbook states "your engine is designed to use only unleaded gasoline with an octane rating of 95 or higher".

Seems clear enough!
Old 30 March 2002, 11:53 PM
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Your choice.
Old 31 March 2002, 11:06 AM
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<delurk>
Re running Scoobies on "normal" 95RON unleaded...

DON'T DO IT. (in my humble opinion, anyway)

My car is completely standard, no mods. (boring, I know...) It's supposed to be a UK MY00 but based on its external appearance (alloys, black mirrors etc) I'm fairly certain it's actually a MY99. Must check the numbers one day...

I changed over to 97RON and had the ECU reset when it was serviced about 11 months ago. Since then I've changed over to Optimax and I get the ECU reset every time it goes in for servicing. The car is MUCH smoother, quicker, even sounds nicer when running on Optimax. On the odd occasion I have no choice but to put 95RON in it it now feels slow, heavy, thrashy and deeply unpleasant by comparison and I usually end up making a special journey to the dealer to get the ECU reset once it's back on real fuel. If you are still running a scoob on ordinary bog-standard unleaded you really need to change cos you are sabotaging the poor thing!

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