Leslie

I agree of course that must have been a very frightening experience.

I think what you state as requirements were covered well enough in my post.

Les

EddScott

Theres two sides to that though. The one hand you don't feel threatened because you know your dog. The person avoiding your dog feels threatened. In this PC, everyones entitled to their opinion, death before infringement of civil rights - world, you can't have another person feeling threatened by your actions (taking your dog for a walk) irrespective of whether they are educated or otherwise. Being scared of a dog isn't a sign of low intelligence. Stories that spark this thread fuel peoples fear of dogs of any breed, not just the double hard ba5tard ones.

Snazy

No no, I dont mean it like that.
I totally understand and accept that not everyone likes dogs, and some feel threatened by them.
The bit I dont understand is, while I am trying to make myself a human barrier between the person and the dog I am walking, why does the person make a point of getting CLOSER to the dog by walking down the other side of me, then cower when we pass.

I am doing everything I can to make the person feel less threatened, while they at the same time put themselves WAY outside their comfort zone.

Im not for one second suggesting fear of canines is down to stupidity or poor education. People are entitled to whatever emotions they wish, and I will do all I can to make the encounter as stressfree as possible.
Thats why, as I say at the start of the post, my dogs stay on leads.

Snazy

Definatly agree, dogs should not be able to approach people against the persons will. Let alone small kids etc.

I get very tired of hearing owners shout things like "he's ok" as their dog bounds towards either me and my dogs, or people with their kids.

He could be the loveliest dog in the world, but unless I ask you to, please dont let your dog approach me, especially off lead.

hodgy0_2

owners picking up their dogs **** would be start, let alone keep them under control

pikeywrx

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Makes me laugh Mate.

If any one even slightly thought about hurting my dog i would hurt them.
My dogs have eery right to be walked they only get walked in areas you would expect dogs to be walked.

Its exactly like saying 90% off peados are blokes so if a bloke walked any where near my kids id kill him.

Thats go around booting everything. cause thats the way forward.

Devildog

That's a great plan Dave.

Lets look at the scenario of you and our 5 year old out a walk in the woods. Your 5 year old wanders off a safe distance and meets a dog out with its owner.

Dog greets 5 year old, you come running up like some crazed loon and attack dog.

And presumably you'll then be shocked when dog, sensing its in danger has a go at you back.


Alternatively, rather than threatening to put the boot in, you can properly educate your 5 year old not to approach dogs, and if a dog appraches it, what to do so as to ensure that in the highly unlikely event its out a walk looking for a child to maul it doesn't pick on yours.

Its not rocket science.

With you attitude you may as well give every teenager who comes near a kicking too, just in case they are some scummy liitle ****** with issues.

It's a two way street. Responsible dog ownership and responsible parenting. Both of which are sadly lacking

Snazy

Oops, seeing the other side I should be cleared.
If someone allows their child or dog to approach me and my dog, if they were then to try and harm my dog for being interested, I would indeed be pi$$ed!

As for the poop scooping. Its not difficult to do. Had a blazing arguement with a woman in the street about this the other day.
Dog squatted, as he did so I pulled a bag from my pocket.
She pulls up and starts blowing her horn, muttering something. Missus asked her what she wanted. Woman blerted out "i hope you are going to pick that up"
We corrected her and made it clear we would, then took another 5 mins of abuse from her about how most people dont, how she does not want her kids going blind, and how I had not cleaned it up well enough for her liking.

So a question for all.
My dog dumps outside your house, I clean it up, and you are not happy its done well enough. I ask for some water to rinse the area with. .... Would you oblige (seeing as you were annoyed enough to comment in the first place) or tell me NO!

Devildog

Oh, and Martin, Bob and I are still waiting for your answer?

Terminator X

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I did

TX.

hodgy0_2

off course I would, politeness cost nothing and I would thank you for the trouble of asking -- as always in life it is the irresponsible minority that spoils it

but doggy doos is just so revolting and having to clean of your toddler is a real downer

I come from doggy family -- but personally I would not have them in the house will small kids, 5 demanding smelly runts is enough -- why would anyone want any extra hassle -- plus the smell of wet dog in a car is a real turn off as far as the wife concerned

Devildog

The first five words of your post make the rest somewhat ironic, don't you think

Snazy

I can understand where you are coming from mate

ScoobyWon't

They aren't scared of the dogs - they are scared of you!

ScoobyWon't

This lunch time, some **** riding a bicycle on the pavement, came tearing up behind my retreiver, who was being walked on his lead, and scared the hound so much he lept about 3 foot in the air.

I think this behaviour of not approaching should go both ways - humans should ask if it's safe to approach dogs and not make sudden movements which may startle the animal.

Snazy

A possibility! Explains their choice of route.


lol want a funny story about cyclists, pavements and dogs? You are getting it anyway.

Walking the big beast the other evening, talking to my missus on the phone. Just walking past a house with a drop kerb outside.
Suddenly, the dog looks round, I look round, and a cyclist comes up behind us on the pavement, riding down the drop kerb behind us and attempted to come back up it.
Sadly as it was one of those folding bikes, with little wheels, and the kerb was slightly higher than the road....

Crash..... went the bike and rider as they hit the floor
I stopped, but as he landed he managed to land RIGHT in front of Tuvaq, who was curious to say the least about the flying man and him thrusting himself in front of the dogs space like that.

He was petrified, bless him

I agree, people should have some sense to speak to the owner first. Most people dont bother when I am out with Tuvaaq, but love making a fuss of Aana.
The local plod however love "interacting" with Tuvaaq and seeing who can stay on their feet the longest lol

Quasi Modo

Guns are not the danger, the a holes with them are, take the gun away and they'll find something else to use. If the intent is there banning guns won't stop them, they can get them illegally, make their own or use another weapon, ultimately you have to get rid of the desire to cause harm or the desire to be irresponsible, be it with a dog, a gun, or a child. If you muzzle all dogs you must therefore put all children in straight-jackets with a harness. I don't think will be too popular though.

Snazy

I dunno, thats a pretty good compromise if you ask me!

Quasi Modo

he he.

David Lock

I'm getting bored with all this.

But since it's a pet thread can I just say how much I love cats

We have about 6 but I got fed up with them messing in the garden so I've trained them to nip over the garden fence to neighbour's. In fact he is a keep gardener and has a well tended allotment/vegetable patch so just perfect for my lovely pets.

So haven't I done well

dl

gallois

the type of people who 'kick' dogs, usually do it because there is no danger of retaliation by the dog (or the owner) ........go figure.

BOB.T

And the people saying they would kick a dog are the ones saying that owners buy dogs to show how hard they are...

my06 ppp silver

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well here we go again, the dog lovers/ haters thread again (or should i say which dog is best thread?) shame on those that are talking about kicking dogs. does anyone here remember the "puppy kicked to death in park thread"? , i will say no more than what goes around comes around, so go ahead kick a dog that playfully comes up to you in the park (rightly or wrongly btw) cos i hope around the next corner you get the likes of these so called "DANGEROUS BREEDS" hanging off you, (rightly or wrongly btw), then at least there would be justification for it to be destroyed. sad really. tbh i am not going to visit this thread again because there is far too many "EXPERTS" passing opinion.

pikeywrx

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Even the thought off some one kicking my dog winds me up. Even if some one kicked the rottie even tho he would probably wiegh more than them 13 stone. He woould still probably cower.

A while ago me and amate were on our way back form auctions and we saw a chav kick a rottie as it wouldnt heal not a nudge a full on boot to the bottom off the chin, We couldnt believe are eyes so i turned round and went back and he was still hitting it (it was cowering) my mate got out and asked him if he thought he was tough kicking a dog to witch he got F££k off mate. so my mate downed him to witch the dog then went for my mate.

thats loyality.

I cant understand why any one would hurt an animal. and really do believe if some one hurt any off mine i wouldnt br resposible for my actions.

Quasi Modo

I've got one for ya, horse riders who dump their load and ride off like they own the place leaving smelly cannon ***** all over the path. The only reason they do this is because they're too lazy to clean up at their own place. They then ride past you giving you that "peasant" look. That grinds my nuts. I mean, i'm not one to moan.

dazdavies

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Typical biggot spouting **** about a subject they clearly know nothing about.

I have a 2 dogs, a 10 year old Collie and a 2 year old 7 stone Rottie both of which I've had since they were about 6 weeks old.
They are both fantastic dogs and are currently curled up together sleeping on the couch.
My dogs have been brought up in the right manner. From the off they have been brought up as part of the family and have full roam of the house. They are not locked out in some poxy 12 foot by 12 foot garden or locked away in a backroom for 20 odd hours.
This has allowed both dogs to learn how to behave and if they've stepped out of line they've been punished.

It's all in the owners and how they keep their dogs. The rottie as big as he his is a wonderful dog, he's playful, obedient and also loves a cuddle. I've no doubt if i'd kept him locked upo in a shed, room, small garden with very little family interaction than he'd more than likely be a horrible dog.

In most of the cases it is simply down to how the dog has been treated and been taught to behave. Occasionally you do just get a bad dog. I've known some proper viscious nasty dogs over the years and by far the nastiest was a Golden retriever but she bred really good pups.

It's also worth noting that a savage golden retriever is nowhere near as headline worth as a savage rottie etc.

So before you f*ckwit biggots keep spouting nonsense get your facts right. There are more people that get bitten by labradors every year than there are rotties but they arent classed as a dangerous breed.

Its just badly written headlines about carefully selected stories and low intellect biggots that make out all rotties, GSD, staffies are killer dogs to be avoided at all costs.

Incedently I'm just about to become a parent for the first time and the fact we have two dogs are a concern. The dogs and the child will NEVER be in the same room unattended. That is just plain common sense which is lacking in most the cases that make the headlines.

Look at this, obviously a proper nasty bastid that will rip your throat out at any opportunity!!

Snazy

They look evil mate, the spawn of the devil I tell ye!

*removes tongue from cheek.

How lovely
Wish mine would chill out like that together. He just hates his paws being touched lol.