fatherpierre

It's a good tune.

Won't buy it as I have it on the original album.

DGAF waht is number 1.

davyboy

A fool and his money.....

The X factor chap will still be number 1.

Trout

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That's right - and having a Facebook campaign get a chosen song to number is in no way manufactured either!!! Has this song by RATM even been in the charts before?

To my mind the whole thing is a sad joke from people who you normally see on the IT Crowd before going off to polish their Subarus!

Adrian F

so where is the cheapest place to buy it so it counts for the charts?

I hate all this fake stuff Cowell puts out

I remember the year Iron Maiden had the christmas number 1 i was at one of the gigs where Bruce suggested the idea to the audience and fun enough they were number 1 at least they write what they perform.

Andy Tang

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Funny thing is Tescodigital is selling the X Factor single at 29p

Trout

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This information is incorrect. To count towards the charts the wholesale price paid must be 40p. The retail price can be anything the retailer chooses to charge. So all those 29p downloads from Amazon count.

This is confirmed by both Amazon and the Official Charts

fatherpierre

At least it's real music created and offered to an audience.

Of course it's a joke; surely that's the point?

A song so opposite the chocolate soaked, sh1te alternative to prove that 'some' people think talent actually means something.

Adrian F

Thanks for that off to Amazon

Trout

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The only joke I can see is that a hasbeen band is storming some surprise late revenue from a very old song and some young kid from South Shields will probably be number one and the whole thing will be a waste.

It can only be a protest if it is against something. I am sure Cowell doesn't give a rats **** as it is VERY unlikely the purchases of RATM will cannibalise sales of Climb - it may even spur one the many 14 year olds to get their pocket money out to make sure Joe is number 1.

The bottom line is that the singles charts has always been the preserve of lightweight music and always will be. Late night radio, the album charts, real gigs - that is where the real stuff happens.

Bubba po

LOL, **** you Les, I won't speak how you tell me.

Bubba po

I believe that BMG Sony own the rights to both songs. Who wins there, I wonder?

Trout

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Now that makes it a good joke. I wonder if the Facebook group owners realise that!

Boy they must be laughing all the way to the bank.

p1mark

PMSL!

I think that's going to be lost on Les Bubba!

davyboy

Come on Joe, CD out today. Show these jokers they are wasting their time.

AndyC_772

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Manufactured? How?

Promoted? Sure. But at least it's music that stands up on its own merits and never needed the massive TV exposure. How many copies do you think the X-factor song would have sold without the TV programme?

A lot of people have noticed they're both signed to the same parent company. But, for all their evils, this isn't a campaign against Sony Music in particular, and I've nothing against them making some extra cash out of RATM. Maybe it'll change their ideas about what can be profitable and worth investing in?

Xmas no.1 or not, we've got people talking about great music and questioning the value of the charts. Is that really such a waste?

TelBoy

Andy, you're intellectualising it WAY above the cares of the average 15 year old who buys chart stuff. At that age you don't know what great music is, and having it rammed down your throat by a bunch of idiots "protesting" against a telly show that pulls in 20 million viewers is going to change squat-all and is just utterly misguided. But it's "something to do" i suppose, isn't it?

Trout

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Andy,

and do you think RATM would have sold an extra hundred thousand copies of their single and album without a Facebook campaign supporting them?

You are both misguided and a muppet.

Trout

Trout

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Transcript from Sony Board meeting.


I see that Facebook campaign has been really successful.

Which one?

Oh the one that Simon started to get people to buy more Joe records.

Joe records? I thought it was RATM.

No, not that old rubbish, the X factor lad. Simon thought that if there was a big protest for some crap song in our back catalogue it would get even more attention for the X factor lad.

F**king brilliant! I wish I had thought of that.

I know, even better we have managed to shift quite a bit of that RATM crap as well. At least it keeps the musos happy that we are interested in 'real' music.

Do they realise that Epic is owned by us?

Yes, it didn't seem to stop them buying though.

This Facebook protest idea is fantastic. We get to make even more money without any marketing spend at all.

So what else can we make viral - it has to be something really awful so that the potato heads will think that they are getting down the cool people and making a statement.

I am sure we can come up with something.

Even better why not have a protest album against Leona - that would really get the public going.