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25 January 2010, 10:35 PM
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Ahahahaha, no mate 
One for everyone That would be a nice combo, but the pulleys were not listed when i've bought the cams... doh! Maybe do you want to sell the pulleys?
In any case, i need them because i've worked the valve seat of my v4 sti heads, and i need to gain a bit of space, the v4 sti cams have a base lobe diameter of 34mm, the sub03 from 31.8 to 32.5mm, this space is what i need
If interested, this is a comparision of v4sti vs kent sub03 lifts and speeds:
I was hoping a bit more juice from the kent... Are declared 260°@0.25, instead are 250°@0.20... DOH! Damn cam makers, they must list a bit more specs about their products!
The STI v4 are 280° at 0.20mm, but the bigger 0.20mm figure doesn't tell nothing, as at 0.60mm the sti are 211 and the kent 213, while at 1.00mm the sti are 180° and the kent 192.
Less flow at low lift, but a bit more flow at high lift. That low lift parts are for quiet the tappets and smooth the acceleration (especially at the closing of the valve, right part of the graph), not for increase the time-area of the cams. In any case, under 0.5mm of lift there is really near no flow...
The cams are quite perfect, and 3 are from reground, but one is from blank (still in the manifacteur sealed bag!) = £££. Still, really thanks Bluerigster!!!
One for everyone
That would be a nice combo, but the pulleys were not listed when i've bought the cams... doh! Maybe do you want to sell the pulleys? In any case, i need them because i've worked the valve seat of my v4 sti heads, and i need to gain a bit of space, the v4 sti cams have a base lobe diameter of 34mm, the sub03 from 31.8 to 32.5mm, this space is what i need
If interested, this is a comparision of v4sti vs kent sub03 lifts and speeds:
I was hoping a bit more juice from the kent... Are declared 260°@0.25, instead are 250°@0.20... DOH! Damn cam makers, they must list a bit more specs about their products!
The STI v4 are 280° at 0.20mm, but the bigger 0.20mm figure doesn't tell nothing, as at 0.60mm the sti are 211 and the kent 213, while at 1.00mm the sti are 180° and the kent 192.
Less flow at low lift, but a bit more flow at high lift. That low lift parts are for quiet the tappets and smooth the acceleration (especially at the closing of the valve, right part of the graph), not for increase the time-area of the cams. In any case, under 0.5mm of lift there is really near no flow...
The cams are quite perfect, and 3 are from reground, but one is from blank (still in the manifacteur sealed bag!) = £££. Still, really thanks Bluerigster!!!
Last edited by masterx81; 25 January 2010 at 10:42 PM.
25 January 2010, 11:04 PM
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Nice.....Would you have a clearer camshaft comparison chart? i wanted to have a look at the duration but unfortunately the Y axis is very distorted.
Going to hold onto them pulleys mate.....as will be required when i spec up for my cams once i know for definite what setup i will run.
Going to hold onto them pulleys mate.....as will be required when i spec up for my cams once i know for definite what setup i will run.
25 January 2010, 11:29 PM
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°cam kent v4sti lift
0 0 0
1 0,01 0,01
2 0,02 0,02
3 0,035 0,03
4 0,05 0,05
5 0,07 0,08
6 0,08 0,1
7 0,1 0,12
8 0,12 0,14
9 0,14 0,16
10 0,15 0,18
11 0,18 0,2
12 0,2 0,22
13 0,23 0,24
14 0,26 0,26
15 0,3 0,28
16 0,33 0,3
17 0,37 0,32
18 0,42 0,34
19 0,47 0,36
20 0,52 0,39
21 0,57 0,42
22 0,65 0,45
23 0,71 0,49
24 0,77 0,53
25 0,85 0,57
26 0,92 0,62
27 1 0,67
28 1,1 0,73
29 1,19 0,8
30 1,27 0,86
31 1,38 0,94
32 1,48 1,01
33 1,59 1,11
34 1,7 1,2
35 1,82 1,3
36 1,96 1,4
37 2,07 1,5
38 2,22 1,62
39 2,35 1,73
40 2,5 1,85
41 2,65 2
42 2,82 2,13
43 2,97 2,27
44 3,17 2,43
45 3,33 2,59
46 3,52 2,78
47 3,7 2,92
48 3,89 3,12
49 4,1 3,3
50 4,31 3,5
51 4,52 3,7
52 4,74 3,9
53 4,96 4,14
54 5,22 4,36
55 5,45 4,62
56 5,73 4,88
57 5,95 5,12
58 6,22 5,38
59 6,51 5,65
60 6,77 5,95
61 7,02 6,22
62 7,3 6,5
63 7,55 6,8
64 7,83 7,06
65 8,07 7,32
66 8,29 7,53
67 8,49 7,75
68 8,68 7,91
69 8,82 8,08
70 8,96 8,21
71 9,07 8,33
72 9,15 8,42
73 9,21 8,5
74 9,26 8,54
75 9,28 8,57
76 9,29 8,57
77 9,28 8,56
78 9,25 8,52
79 9,19 8,46
80 9,11 8,39
81 9,01 8,27
82 8,88 8,15
83 8,71 8
84 8,55 7,83
85 8,33 7,67
86 8,12 7,45
87 7,88 7,26
88 7,61 7
89 7,4 6,75
90 7,15 6,5
91 6,82 6,25
92 6,57 5,95
93 6,3 5,68
94 6,05 5,4
95 5,8 5,15
96 5,51 4,9
97 5,29 4,65
98 5,02 4,43
99 4,81 4,2
100 4,59 4
101 4,36 3,75
102 4,14 3,58
103 3,9 3,38
104 3,7 3,19
105 3,48 2,97
106 3,29 2,81
107 3,11 2,65
108 2,94 2,5
109 2,74 2,35
110 2,59 2,2
111 2,44 2,05
112 2,29 1,95
113 2,15 1,83
114 2,01 1,71
115 1,9 1,6
116 1,75 1,51
117 1,62 1,42
118 1,51 1,32
119 1,4 1,24
120 1,29 1,15
121 1,19 1,07
122 1,08 1
123 1 0,94
124 0,91 0,89
125 0,84 0,82
126 0,75 0,78
127 0,68 0,74
128 0,6 0,69
129 0,55 0,65
130 0,49 0,62
131 0,44 0,59
132 0,39 0,57
133 0,34 0,55
134 0,3 0,53
135 0,26 0,51
136 0,23 0,49
137 0,2 0,47
138 0,17 0,45
139 0,15 0,43
140 0,12 0,41
141 0,11 0,39
142 0,09 0,37
143 0,07 0,35
144 0,06 0,33
145 0,04 0,31
146 0,03 0,29
147 0,01 0,27
148 0 0,25
149 0 0,23
150 0 0,21
151 0 0,19
152 0 0,17
153 0 0,15
154 0 0,13
155 0 0,11
156 0 0,09
157 0 0,07
158 0 0,05
159 0 0,03
160 0 0,02
161 0 0,01
This data cost me several hours of work
I'm a bit curious how a v3 sti profile would look.... As i've readed over the net that is the wildest profile subaru has ever made for the classics...
In any case, for have those values, i've used this simple setup:
May seem quite inaccurate way of measuring lift, but i've made several series of measurements, and i've found an error of MAX 0.03mm, only because at particular angles, where the acceleration is quite high, maybe every 0.1deg of rotation means 0.01mm of lift Quite difficult have a steady readings at PRECISE angles with that angle gauge (that was the same one as i use to set timing on my 2t kart engine ). In any case, for my prouposes this values as worth EVERY minute i've spent on them, as with the acceleration profile, i've calculated the inertia of the valvetrain at the max revs of the engine, so that i can use the right load on the valve springs, without wasting power on too heavy springs
And for sure, studying cam profiles and comparing them is really an interesting thing
Ah, forgot to say, that values are for intake cams, i still need to measure the kent exhaust cams (sti already measured) ...
If someone have v3sti cams under tha hands, would be nice if can measure them, so my curiosity will be satisfyied!
And a lot of classics enthusiasts will be quite happy
PS: Bluerigster, sorry for the invasion on your thread
0 0 0
1 0,01 0,01
2 0,02 0,02
3 0,035 0,03
4 0,05 0,05
5 0,07 0,08
6 0,08 0,1
7 0,1 0,12
8 0,12 0,14
9 0,14 0,16
10 0,15 0,18
11 0,18 0,2
12 0,2 0,22
13 0,23 0,24
14 0,26 0,26
15 0,3 0,28
16 0,33 0,3
17 0,37 0,32
18 0,42 0,34
19 0,47 0,36
20 0,52 0,39
21 0,57 0,42
22 0,65 0,45
23 0,71 0,49
24 0,77 0,53
25 0,85 0,57
26 0,92 0,62
27 1 0,67
28 1,1 0,73
29 1,19 0,8
30 1,27 0,86
31 1,38 0,94
32 1,48 1,01
33 1,59 1,11
34 1,7 1,2
35 1,82 1,3
36 1,96 1,4
37 2,07 1,5
38 2,22 1,62
39 2,35 1,73
40 2,5 1,85
41 2,65 2
42 2,82 2,13
43 2,97 2,27
44 3,17 2,43
45 3,33 2,59
46 3,52 2,78
47 3,7 2,92
48 3,89 3,12
49 4,1 3,3
50 4,31 3,5
51 4,52 3,7
52 4,74 3,9
53 4,96 4,14
54 5,22 4,36
55 5,45 4,62
56 5,73 4,88
57 5,95 5,12
58 6,22 5,38
59 6,51 5,65
60 6,77 5,95
61 7,02 6,22
62 7,3 6,5
63 7,55 6,8
64 7,83 7,06
65 8,07 7,32
66 8,29 7,53
67 8,49 7,75
68 8,68 7,91
69 8,82 8,08
70 8,96 8,21
71 9,07 8,33
72 9,15 8,42
73 9,21 8,5
74 9,26 8,54
75 9,28 8,57
76 9,29 8,57
77 9,28 8,56
78 9,25 8,52
79 9,19 8,46
80 9,11 8,39
81 9,01 8,27
82 8,88 8,15
83 8,71 8
84 8,55 7,83
85 8,33 7,67
86 8,12 7,45
87 7,88 7,26
88 7,61 7
89 7,4 6,75
90 7,15 6,5
91 6,82 6,25
92 6,57 5,95
93 6,3 5,68
94 6,05 5,4
95 5,8 5,15
96 5,51 4,9
97 5,29 4,65
98 5,02 4,43
99 4,81 4,2
100 4,59 4
101 4,36 3,75
102 4,14 3,58
103 3,9 3,38
104 3,7 3,19
105 3,48 2,97
106 3,29 2,81
107 3,11 2,65
108 2,94 2,5
109 2,74 2,35
110 2,59 2,2
111 2,44 2,05
112 2,29 1,95
113 2,15 1,83
114 2,01 1,71
115 1,9 1,6
116 1,75 1,51
117 1,62 1,42
118 1,51 1,32
119 1,4 1,24
120 1,29 1,15
121 1,19 1,07
122 1,08 1
123 1 0,94
124 0,91 0,89
125 0,84 0,82
126 0,75 0,78
127 0,68 0,74
128 0,6 0,69
129 0,55 0,65
130 0,49 0,62
131 0,44 0,59
132 0,39 0,57
133 0,34 0,55
134 0,3 0,53
135 0,26 0,51
136 0,23 0,49
137 0,2 0,47
138 0,17 0,45
139 0,15 0,43
140 0,12 0,41
141 0,11 0,39
142 0,09 0,37
143 0,07 0,35
144 0,06 0,33
145 0,04 0,31
146 0,03 0,29
147 0,01 0,27
148 0 0,25
149 0 0,23
150 0 0,21
151 0 0,19
152 0 0,17
153 0 0,15
154 0 0,13
155 0 0,11
156 0 0,09
157 0 0,07
158 0 0,05
159 0 0,03
160 0 0,02
161 0 0,01
This data cost me several hours of work
I'm a bit curious how a v3 sti profile would look.... As i've readed over the net that is the wildest profile subaru has ever made for the classics...
In any case, for have those values, i've used this simple setup:
May seem quite inaccurate way of measuring lift, but i've made several series of measurements, and i've found an error of MAX 0.03mm, only because at particular angles, where the acceleration is quite high, maybe every 0.1deg of rotation means 0.01mm of lift
Quite difficult have a steady readings at PRECISE angles with that angle gauge (that was the same one as i use to set timing on my 2t kart engine ). In any case, for my prouposes this values as worth EVERY minute i've spent on them, as with the acceleration profile, i've calculated the inertia of the valvetrain at the max revs of the engine, so that i can use the right load on the valve springs, without wasting power on too heavy springs And for sure, studying cam profiles and comparing them is really an interesting thing
Ah, forgot to say, that values are for intake cams, i still need to measure the kent exhaust cams (sti already measured) ...
If someone have v3sti cams under tha hands, would be nice if can measure them, so my curiosity will be satisfyied!
And a lot of classics enthusiasts will be quite happy
PS: Bluerigster, sorry for the invasion on your thread
Last edited by masterx81; 25 January 2010 at 11:53 PM.
26 January 2010, 08:34 AM
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Master X......some nice calcs there and i'm also interested in the Exhaust calcs when you have them... may be able to help you with the V3 cams a si have a set of them here.....Give me a PM....I'm hoping your in the UK.
Sorry for the thread Hijack mate....i suppose it will keep it at the top of the for sale thread lol.
Sorry for the thread Hijack mate....i suppose it will keep it at the top of the for sale thread lol.
26 January 2010, 10:54 PM
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Na fud not spending, wish I could!!! Was trying to help roinin out in the wanted section he is after a st of ap 6 pots and had contacted the seller with no joy so I text him direct to get pics n part numbers.
All that stuff is sorted fud and went out in the post today 1st class so you should have that tomorrow (wed) if not Thursday latest.
All that stuff is sorted fud and went out in the post today 1st class so you should have that tomorrow (wed) if not Thursday latest.
09 February 2010, 05:54 PM
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hi mate i bought the twin plate clutch of ya,ive had it fiited today but it dosnt seem to go in to gear they have beld the clutch cylinder but that seem to be fine is there a uprated part i need .HELP
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09 February 2010, 06:27 PM
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I'm interested in the Ninja Downpipe. To clarify, this is the sport cat so still passes MOT? Even with centre cat removed? Fits a classic MY2000 UK turbo?
I'm at Jct 34 M4 so can collect.
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09 February 2010, 07:25 PM
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Have you tried here for an answer>>
Troubleshooting Guide : Exedy Clutch Europe, Performance Clutches
09 February 2010, 08:25 PM
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yes they where checked,it only goes in gear when the cars switchd off.and then it drives.when you start i.ive had twin plate clutchs on skyline and evo in the past ive never had a problem,could it be the slave cylinder?
09 February 2010, 09:01 PM
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I would guess either the plates aren't fitted the correct way round or the clutch release bearing is at fault. But checking the slave cylinder is working correctly and is bleed of any air would be the first thing I'd check before removing the gearbox again.
09 February 2010, 09:30 PM
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hi,when we took the clutch apart for the first time the plate where in the wrong places so we swaped them around and then we used a knew release bearing from a six speed clutch,did you use a standard bearing?
10 February 2010, 03:21 PM
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HELP! IVE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE THIS CLUTCH WORK ALL DAY,IVE CHANGED THE SLAVE CYLINDER TO A SIX SPEED,WE HAVE MANUALY PUSHED THE RELEASE FORK BACK AS FAR AS IT CAN GO AND IT STILL DOSNT GO IN GEAR,SO WE HAVE TAKEN OFF THE GEAR BOX AND EVERY THING,SEEMS TO BE FINE,IVE EVEN CALL ROGER CLARKE THEY SAID THE PRESSURE PLATE WORN,
10 February 2010, 08:58 PM
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Are both plates the correct way around? as I can promise you the clutch is in full working order.
http://www.exedy.co.uk/techinfo/twin_notes.pdf
http://www.exedy.co.uk/techinfo/twin_notes.pdf
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10 February 2010, 09:31 PM
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In all honesty i would be very very surprised if there was much wear and tear on that pressure plate mate....i mean you will go through multiple friction plates before the actual pressure plate is worn....just my 2p's worth.....
If you don't mind me asking mate the garage that are installing the clutch, have they much experience with multi-plate clutches? Sorry to ask you these questions as i'm sure your in no mood after all you have been through.
If you don't mind me asking mate the garage that are installing the clutch, have they much experience with multi-plate clutches? Sorry to ask you these questions as i'm sure your in no mood after all you have been through.
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A worn pressure plate would disengage the clutch causing the clutch to slip under load and the problem you have is you can't disengage the clutch to allow you to select gear. So this isn't a down to a worn pressure but a problem actually releasing the pressure plate it's self. The friction plates will effect the operation of the clutch if not fitted correctly, also what did you torque the pressure plate up to and was the release bearing securely fitted to the pressure plate prior to fitting the gearbox?
How far away do you live? as I would be willing to come and fit the clutch if need be.
How far away do you live? as I would be willing to come and fit the clutch if need be.