Tips on helping a baby sleep all night ..
29 December 2009, 07:53 PM
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Hey Pimmo
My Daughters baby is about the same age as yours. He hardly ever cries and has a night time routine tea, milk, bath, milk, put in his cot awake and is usually asleep in 10 minutes. He normally sleeps through till' about 7.30-8.30am. He's stopped at our house a couple of times recently and its just the same routine here and its great: he wakes in the morning all smiles sometimes a bit grumpy for his milk which he glugs down in about a minute.
However, the last week or so he has been teething, his two top teeth are just starting to show. They appear to be coming through the front of the gum rather than the bottom, which is why we didn't notice them at first, and they look bloody massive. As a result he has been crying through the day sometimes, which is unusual for him, and has been waking a lot during the night.
My daughters boyfriend is a Doctor so she doesn't have the worry he maybe ill.
She uses Baby Bonjela and some powder stuff*
in paper satchets (look like the old Beechams powders) which I can find the name of if you want.
The other thing she says: If he wakes up don't talk to him or look him in the eyes. Sometimes he just needs a cuddle and rocking for 5 mins and put him back in his cot.
Good luck
Edit to add *the powders are called: Ashton and Parsons infant powders for teething with a smile
My Daughters baby is about the same age as yours. He hardly ever cries and has a night time routine tea, milk, bath, milk, put in his cot awake and is usually asleep in 10 minutes. He normally sleeps through till' about 7.30-8.30am. He's stopped at our house a couple of times recently and its just the same routine here and its great: he wakes in the morning all smiles sometimes a bit grumpy for his milk which he glugs down in about a minute.
However, the last week or so he has been teething, his two top teeth are just starting to show. They appear to be coming through the front of the gum rather than the bottom, which is why we didn't notice them at first, and they look bloody massive. As a result he has been crying through the day sometimes, which is unusual for him, and has been waking a lot during the night.
My daughters boyfriend is a Doctor so she doesn't have the worry he maybe ill.
She uses Baby Bonjela and some powder stuff*
in paper satchets (look like the old Beechams powders) which I can find the name of if you want.The other thing she says: If he wakes up don't talk to him or look him in the eyes. Sometimes he just needs a cuddle and rocking for 5 mins and put him back in his cot.
Good luck
Edit to add *the powders are called: Ashton and Parsons infant powders for teething with a smile
its like baby crack.. maybe he's teething then.. he ate a full jar tonight and has just finished his bath .. he's smiling and laughin which he hasn't done for a while, so maybe he was more ill than the doctor thought ..
Appreciate all the replies and am going to leave him to cry tonight, he has to have drops when he wakes up and this will be the only time we comfort him as the drops are cold and scares him.
Will let you know how it goes..
29 December 2009, 09:37 PM
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Pimmo, hello again!!
Right as from what I can gather it's probably one of two things... teething, which would explain the cold and his unsettled behavior, OR, separation anxiety. Google that and see what you think.
He is getting to an age where he is beginning to realize that he is a separate person, and that him and mummy, or him and you are no longer one being.
It's a scary feeling for them and when they get put in bed alone at night it can be hard for them to deal with. This can be seen more depending on their night time routine.
If he was cuddled to go to sleep then he might simply wake up feeling insecure, and want those cuddles to feel safe, it's natural and all he wants is to feel safe.
However it is a habit that needs to be broken, and as much as you want to reassure him that all is ok, you don't want to be doing it for the next several years, or having a 2 year old interrupt 'YOUR' (and Mrs Pimmo's) cuddles in the night!
He is on solids now yes? So there is little chance that he is hungry in the night, so other than illness there isn't a great cause for concern.
The best thing is to put him down asleep, and when he is upset, go in to him, stay quiet, a quick cuddle and a kiss and then back down. Being firm and fair is the best way. he gets what he needs without it becoming a fun distraction at stupid o clock in the am!
Yes, he will get upset, but believe me as a parent you will know when he is 'really' upset. He will soon understand that the waking results in no fun and no milk/water and that it's probably just easier and less work to just relax and drift back off to sleep. Babies wake up several times through the different phases of sleep, and depending on how they fall asleep at first, will result in them needing that when they wake up.
Make bed time fun and make him feel safe with a cuddly toy that he can sleep with and play with in the day. Then just use that toy for bedtime. You can use that as a sleep aid.
I hope that helps.
Right as from what I can gather it's probably one of two things... teething, which would explain the cold and his unsettled behavior, OR, separation anxiety. Google that and see what you think.
He is getting to an age where he is beginning to realize that he is a separate person, and that him and mummy, or him and you are no longer one being.
It's a scary feeling for them and when they get put in bed alone at night it can be hard for them to deal with. This can be seen more depending on their night time routine.
If he was cuddled to go to sleep then he might simply wake up feeling insecure, and want those cuddles to feel safe, it's natural and all he wants is to feel safe.
However it is a habit that needs to be broken, and as much as you want to reassure him that all is ok, you don't want to be doing it for the next several years, or having a 2 year old interrupt 'YOUR' (and Mrs Pimmo's) cuddles in the night!
He is on solids now yes? So there is little chance that he is hungry in the night, so other than illness there isn't a great cause for concern.
The best thing is to put him down asleep, and when he is upset, go in to him, stay quiet, a quick cuddle and a kiss and then back down. Being firm and fair is the best way. he gets what he needs without it becoming a fun distraction at stupid o clock in the am!
Yes, he will get upset, but believe me as a parent you will know when he is 'really' upset. He will soon understand that the waking results in no fun and no milk/water and that it's probably just easier and less work to just relax and drift back off to sleep. Babies wake up several times through the different phases of sleep, and depending on how they fall asleep at first, will result in them needing that when they wake up.
Make bed time fun and make him feel safe with a cuddly toy that he can sleep with and play with in the day. Then just use that toy for bedtime. You can use that as a sleep aid.
I hope that helps.
Last edited by Hysteria1983; 29 December 2009 at 09:41 PM.
29 December 2009, 09:49 PM
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Oh, and I can't remember who it was who suggested a rusk in the bottle, but don't attempt that.
I am not trying to stir up trouble here, but what people do with their own children is up to them, fair enough, but putting solids in a bottle is just not the right thing to do. Rusk in a bottle can and has resulted in children choking and actually drowning on that sort of food as it just isn't meant to be eaten that way.
We are all guilty of going against the book from time to time, but I wouldn't advise people to do things that I did that were 'against the rules'.
Now I know that there are no real 'rules' but I am referring to government health guidelines. I am not naive to think that the government know our children better than us (their parents) but I am always inclined to think that facts and years of research do provide a helping hand.
I am not trying to stir up trouble here, but what people do with their own children is up to them, fair enough, but putting solids in a bottle is just not the right thing to do. Rusk in a bottle can and has resulted in children choking and actually drowning on that sort of food as it just isn't meant to be eaten that way.
We are all guilty of going against the book from time to time, but I wouldn't advise people to do things that I did that were 'against the rules'.
Now I know that there are no real 'rules' but I am referring to government health guidelines. I am not naive to think that the government know our children better than us (their parents) but I am always inclined to think that facts and years of research do provide a helping hand.
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29 December 2009, 10:24 PM
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my lad is now 6 and still won't sleep through the night, he will not go up stairs on his own he is scared of being alone for some reason. so his mum goes to bed at 8.30 each night and he will start off in his own room but then at about 3 or 4 am he comes running through in to ours so one of us normally his mum puts him back in to his bed but give it 3 or 4 minutes and he's running back through. this can go on for nearly an hour or until some one sits in his room for a bit after he's dropped back off to sleep. then it's all good until about 5.30-6.00 am and it all starts again and as im up at 7 anyway i don't get that much sleep as i don't go until about 11 or 12 as if i go any earlier he starts it all earlier.
any ideas?
any ideas?
30 December 2009, 07:33 AM
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Pimmo, hello again!!
Right as from what I can gather it's probably one of two things... teething, which would explain the cold and his unsettled behavior, OR, separation anxiety. Google that and see what you think.
He is getting to an age where he is beginning to realize that he is a separate person, and that him and mummy, or him and you are no longer one being.
It's a scary feeling for them and when they get put in bed alone at night it can be hard for them to deal with. This can be seen more depending on their night time routine.
If he was cuddled to go to sleep then he might simply wake up feeling insecure, and want those cuddles to feel safe, it's natural and all he wants is to feel safe.
However it is a habit that needs to be broken, and as much as you want to reassure him that all is ok, you don't want to be doing it for the next several years, or having a 2 year old interrupt 'YOUR' (and Mrs Pimmo's) cuddles in the night!
He is on solids now yes? So there is little chance that he is hungry in the night, so other than illness there isn't a great cause for concern.
The best thing is to put him down asleep, and when he is upset, go in to him, stay quiet, a quick cuddle and a kiss and then back down. Being firm and fair is the best way. he gets what he needs without it becoming a fun distraction at stupid o clock in the am!
Yes, he will get upset, but believe me as a parent you will know when he is 'really' upset. He will soon understand that the waking results in no fun and no milk/water and that it's probably just easier and less work to just relax and drift back off to sleep. Babies wake up several times through the different phases of sleep, and depending on how they fall asleep at first, will result in them needing that when they wake up.
Make bed time fun and make him feel safe with a cuddly toy that he can sleep with and play with in the day. Then just use that toy for bedtime. You can use that as a sleep aid.
I hope that helps.
Right as from what I can gather it's probably one of two things... teething, which would explain the cold and his unsettled behavior, OR, separation anxiety. Google that and see what you think.
He is getting to an age where he is beginning to realize that he is a separate person, and that him and mummy, or him and you are no longer one being.
It's a scary feeling for them and when they get put in bed alone at night it can be hard for them to deal with. This can be seen more depending on their night time routine.
If he was cuddled to go to sleep then he might simply wake up feeling insecure, and want those cuddles to feel safe, it's natural and all he wants is to feel safe.
However it is a habit that needs to be broken, and as much as you want to reassure him that all is ok, you don't want to be doing it for the next several years, or having a 2 year old interrupt 'YOUR' (and Mrs Pimmo's) cuddles in the night!
He is on solids now yes? So there is little chance that he is hungry in the night, so other than illness there isn't a great cause for concern.
The best thing is to put him down asleep, and when he is upset, go in to him, stay quiet, a quick cuddle and a kiss and then back down. Being firm and fair is the best way. he gets what he needs without it becoming a fun distraction at stupid o clock in the am!
Yes, he will get upset, but believe me as a parent you will know when he is 'really' upset. He will soon understand that the waking results in no fun and no milk/water and that it's probably just easier and less work to just relax and drift back off to sleep. Babies wake up several times through the different phases of sleep, and depending on how they fall asleep at first, will result in them needing that when they wake up.
Make bed time fun and make him feel safe with a cuddly toy that he can sleep with and play with in the day. Then just use that toy for bedtime. You can use that as a sleep aid.
I hope that helps.
you're like my mum when it comes to babies He slept well last night, we went to him once when it was time for his eye drops and gave him a drink. He settled again. He woke up a few times and we just left him to cry, he settled down quite quickly. I did pop in and check his temp just after he stopped crying to make sure he hadn't gotten himself all worked up but he seemed ok.
Lets see how he is today.
I'm using bits from everyone's posts, trying out all your suggestions and will let you know how it turns out..
Thanks for the great replies again ..
Fingers crossed mate 
30 December 2009, 06:55 PM
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Picked him up from Nursery and he's regressed to the miserable sod he was over Christmas. I think his cold is coming back .. he is grumbling all the time and I only just managed to convince him to take half a jar of food and a few sips of water.
30 December 2009, 07:16 PM
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dont worry, only another 14 years of it, then the drinking begins!!
grin and bare it, my 2 year old boy is a nitemare, isnt in bed until 10 at night most nights, refuses to sleep during the day
but what can you do...
if in pain calpol os good, eg teething
but at end of the day its parenthood in all its glory lol
grin and bare it, my 2 year old boy is a nitemare, isnt in bed until 10 at night most nights, refuses to sleep during the day
but what can you do...
if in pain calpol os good, eg teething
but at end of the day its parenthood in all its glory lol
30 December 2009, 07:30 PM
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hi, hope alls well, i know what its like, got 2 aswell, we bought a vicks vapouriser, fill it up with water, it humidifies the air and makes bubble noises, and you can also add droplets of vicks oil to it, to aromatise the air, the sound of the bubbles soothes the baby, and is safe, i can lend it to you if you wish, pm me,
good luck
good luck
30 December 2009, 08:03 PM
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I've not noticed you mention wife/girlfriend feeding him or attending him during the night.
30 December 2009, 08:10 PM
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She is good with him, very good in fact but he knows what she has to offer.. so wont take other foods off her.
I'm sleeping on the couch downstairs tonight, so I can try and have a full night, I'm working during the day and she (the bitch) has the whole of xmas/new year off..
31 December 2009, 01:07 AM
#49
Bells Whiskey for him and ear plugs for your self.
Only joking BTW, but not about the ear plugs though.
They all go through stages of pushing the boundaries and if you let them push the boundaries they will rule the whole house.
Let him know who the boss is and within a few days he should get the message.
I have a little "angel" aged 5 that insists on getting up at silly hours of the morning , she decided on Christmas morning that santa had been at 4.30am, again at 5.30, again at 6.30 and eventually was allowed downstairs at 7.15.
Its all ahead of you.
Only joking BTW, but not about the ear plugs though.
They all go through stages of pushing the boundaries and if you let them push the boundaries they will rule the whole house.
Let him know who the boss is and within a few days he should get the message.
I have a little "angel" aged 5 that insists on getting up at silly hours of the morning , she decided on Christmas morning that santa had been at 4.30am, again at 5.30, again at 6.30 and eventually was allowed downstairs at 7.15.
Its all ahead of you.
31 December 2009, 01:40 PM
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if hes fed and not hungry doesnt need wind and doesnt need changing, we found with ours they were ok, and wrapped them up and left them they soon nodded off,
get a mobile for the cot.
if his cheeks are red, he may be teething but you will know when he is by the dijon mustard he will expel when he is
my sis in law is going the the same doubts as you her baby cries like he is in pain, until he is picked up,
its worth checking though that there are no labels sticking in his neck of his babygro, and that nothings rubbing on his skin awkwardly, it is hard when they are young, but the mothers instcints tend to be right normally, they have been finely tuned over tens of thousands of years.
get a mobile for the cot.
if his cheeks are red, he may be teething but you will know when he is by the dijon mustard he will expel when he is
my sis in law is going the the same doubts as you her baby cries like he is in pain, until he is picked up,
its worth checking though that there are no labels sticking in his neck of his babygro, and that nothings rubbing on his skin awkwardly, it is hard when they are young, but the mothers instcints tend to be right normally, they have been finely tuned over tens of thousands of years.
01 January 2010, 05:36 PM
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Hope all is well, if he is genuinely ill, then give him the cuddles and reassurance that we all seek when poorly.
But you will have to stand up and be the boss. If he has fed well and hasn't pooped, then really he should be fine. He needs to learn to get a god nights sleep, and if he can't do it on his own, you will have to teach him.
Not sure how the reference to being like you mum applies, not sure if that means you think I am old and wise, or a pain in the backside who thinks he knows everything! lol
But you will have to stand up and be the boss. If he has fed well and hasn't pooped, then really he should be fine. He needs to learn to get a god nights sleep, and if he can't do it on his own, you will have to teach him.
Not sure how the reference to being like you mum applies, not sure if that means you think I am old and wise, or a pain in the backside who thinks he knows everything! lol
02 January 2010, 10:10 AM
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Hes all giggles again during the day, so I assume the cold/teething has passed.
Last night I left him to cry again, 3rd night is it now?
15 minutes the first time at 11pm, then 34 minutes at 1:23 and then we gave up after 45 minutes at 3am and gave him some food... you have to be some kind of nutter to let a baby cry for 45 minutes in the middle of the night..
He was warm, he was clean .. and I'm going to punch him ..
Last night I left him to cry again, 3rd night is it now?
15 minutes the first time at 11pm, then 34 minutes at 1:23 and then we gave up after 45 minutes at 3am and gave him some food... you have to be some kind of nutter to let a baby cry for 45 minutes in the middle of the night..
He was warm, he was clean .. and I'm going to punch him ..
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