fatscoobfella1

iTrader: (1)

^^^^^^^^^

Well if what your saying os true,it certainly puts a different slant on it..

List what is wrong with the car,as £4000 seems a lot.

Boro

iTrader: (1)

The deal was £1200 cash and your car if we met you half way. NOT petrol expenses!

You paying me £50 doesnt mean the case is closed, it means you still owe me £50, simple as that.

The members of SN now know not to trust you when it comes to paying for stuff, so in that respect im happy.

And im prepared to lose £50 and learn a lesson. That doesnt mean you dont owe me it.

Paid in person? You really think im gonna drive 140 miles for £50, get real!

Like ive said, you have my paypal address. Use it and the case IS closed. Otherwise, expect me to pop up every now and then when your trying to buy something or sell something.

Aaron1978

iTrader: (12)

£4k worth of faults! and you agreed to pay another £50

And as for £4k worth of faults i suggest you get an engineer to do a report who isn't drunk

cjquicksilver

iTrader: (23)

right..
from the top

engine rings worn, head gasket leaking,
twin coil pack failed
engine mount knocking,
gear box main bearing worn
pops out of 5th under acceleration
clutch slipping
thrust bearing whining wen ide in neutral
4x bald tyres
brake hard pulls to one side and tramlines along
rear passenger damper failed (seals gone)
alarm light on the car flashes constantly and fuel realy clicks constant,
push foot brake and hazard and rear fog come on,
indicators decide when they want to work and hazards come on wen the want as wel
oil temp and water temp gauges dont work
fill the car full of petrol and leaks from filler neck
passenger door sagged and wont shut without lifting it
interior all damp and condensation occurs
heater controls arnt wired up or fan direction buttons
rear de mist doesnt work
interior light flashes on and off wen driving
cant open the boot as original popper missing with wires showing, boot damp
headlamp angel eyes dont work and wiring everwere except were it should be
ripples in the arches and crackes in front bumper
engine coil cover missing
mirror covers from inside missing
switches on dash missing
water bottle doesnt hold water as tyres too big and has cut through the bottle
were rear arches meet car theres holes were the filler has fallen through
oil dripping from air filter,
leave for more than a day and battery dies then u cant open the car as theres no locks and the central locking wont work as no power

all this from a car listed a pulling well, drives really well and listed with the slight rippling but NO cracks,

come on guys think if u bought the car how would u feel! hes making me out to be the bad guy here, and i said il hapily bring the car back to him, to his door and take mine back, ive even fixed half the problems already so would be better on his part!

Terminator X

iTrader: (7)

I'd say lesson learnt Boro ... shouldn't have let the chap take the car without full payment. Don't do it again

TX.

cjquicksilver

iTrader: (23)

and car had had new clutch, g box, mounts, head gasket, and wiring is being sorted by thusday, so il bring the car back fixed to stop u moaning if u like! jst give me my old car back and my money!

Aaron1978

iTrader: (12)

i'd feel like taking it back and getting my money back (not offering), and if i thought i'd been seriously misled/ripped off woud take it further not give another £50.

Aaron

NotoriousREV

Almost all of this stuff is stuff you should and could have spotted when checking the car over before you handed the cash over. I think 2 harsh lessons have been learned here: don't let your car go until you have all the cash and don't buy a car with your eyes shut.

Aaron1978

iTrader: (12)

I know neither of you but this seems more than fair from what i've read on here, obviously there could be issues with spent money and the other car.

Aaron

stoneface

iTrader: (6)

A proper test drive and inspection would of shown up most of the above faults, if they exist.
Maybe take someone in the know with you next time when viewing a car.

Boro

iTrader: (1)

If i still had your px, i would get a so-called engineers report on that too. I'm sure it would have come up with a massive list of issues that need fixing.

I explained we bought the car for the number plate but it needed MOT'ing before we could remove it. We had it MOT'd, took the plate off and advertised it. We drove it about 400 miles after the MOT with NO issues what-so-ever.

I think you're mechanic is taking you to the cleaners and i would suggest you get a 2nd opinion.

As has been said, getting a report done AFTER you've bought the car is a bit stupid anyway.

I advertised the car with all known faults, bearing in mind we only had it long enough to get it MOT'd and transfer the number plate.

cjquicksilver

iTrader: (23)

yep i admit i should have checked it over better, but would any one else im my position pay the extra £100 for a car that should have been sold as spares or repairs!

i should have known somthing was up when he didnt even look over my car, just signed n drove off

richie001

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Not taking sides but surely you should have noticed some for those problems when you when to see the car ie 4 bald tyre's.

Boro

iTrader: (1)

He didnt even test drive it

cjquicksilver

iTrader: (23)

any one in 'the know' who is local too me is more than welcome to come see the car and prove non of the problems i listed are made up!
you will see were i have carried out the repairs to most of the problems, and i can show you the old engine block etc

zip106

cj - you clearly know absolutely nothing about cars.
If you did, you wouldn't have bought what, on your 'engeneers' report, is clearly a lemon.

Could you not tell the tyres were bald, did you not test drive it, could you not hear the engine mount, did you not..... you see where I'm going with this?

Baffling beyond all belief that anyone would buy such a car with such faults and then try and get their money back.
That's IF such faults are actually real?

cjquicksilver

iTrader: (23)

as you told me in good faith that the car was driving really well, pulls well and youve never had any problems!!

any ways ive had enough definding my side now, im happy to return the car fixed but obv you wont do that as ur glad you got rid when you did,

the car will be back to 100% by the weekend and will bring it back to you on sat, i have ur address from the v5, so i hope you have my money and u can have the car FIXED back on your door step!

cant say fairer than that! ive bought/sold loads on here and other forums and any one dealt with me in the past knows me im 100% fair and no messer

i agree with everyone stating i should have checked over the car better, but i supose lesson is not to trust a mans word!

you can have ur car back sat i hope ur in! see you then!

Boro

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The list is complete bull****. He's either made it up or his mechanic is having a laugh in the hope he is going to make a packet with ficticous repairs. Didnt take it to KwikFit did you?

gallois

one mans pride and joy is another mans pile of ****.

SunnySideUp

It seems to me that a Dog was sold as a car and a numptie bought it - but doubted the wisdom to the extent of holding back £100.

The seller shouldn't sell a dog, but it happens in todays world.

The buyer should look over the car and get an inspection if any doubt, daft buyer IMO.

The seller shouldn't accept £100 less than agreed, but thought that he had a muppet buyer and couldn't risk losing the deal, as another muppet buyer may take a while to arrive at the door again.

The buyer shouldn't have tried it on over £100 ... and then pay £50 back!

I doubt the seller would want such a wreck back, and will not want to give any money back (he doesn't want to see the Pug ever again!) ... lessons learned all round.

If a seller offers to drive halfway to me to sell a car then I am suspect, very suspect - a good car doesn't have to travel to sell - but wrecks do!

PaulC72

Would the MOT not have picked up some of those items especially the bald tyres....I find it impossible that the car could have been in that bad of state and if it was it owuld have failed and you should have spotted anything else.

cjquicksilver

iTrader: (23)

lesson learnt, wats done is done and the problems arnt made up! come and look for ur self ffs!

astraboy

You agreed a price then that is the price you should pay.

If you were unhappy with what you were getting then you had every opportunity to walk away. But you didnt.

You promised to pay the money you owed and you have not done so.

You sir, are guilty of deception. You are a toad.
astraboy.

cjquicksilver

iTrader: (23)

i questioned him about the mot wen he wanted to take the action to court, i said an investigation would be made into the station as the car as it stood was in no way mot-able! so either £5 for the blind eye was paid or you know some peaple,

any way i dont know why this is any ones problem but mine and boro's, ive paid half as problems are on both half ( car not as described, and me not checking it properly) there for £50 is more than fair,
or im happy to take the car back in full working order! how can i be more fair!?

Boro

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Im leaving it there. I will text you my thoughts.

SunnySideUp

Is Boro a dealer?

It does seem so - if so, you have many more rights than you could imagine ... the car should be roadworthy, at the very least.

If you have evidence to state that it was not roadworthy, then it is a criminal act to sell such a vehicle ... especially when it was sold as a roadworthy vehicle.

But this is all rather public - I suggest you both try and do the right thing by each other.

cjquicksilver

iTrader: (23)

well after i asked u if u would accept £50 and be done with it, and you saying yes if i sent now, which i did then u bring this up, so case was closed but obv not!

cjquicksilver

iTrader: (23)

yes i can get mechanic, engeneers, mot station, any report you like, im not lying about the problems!

Boro

iTrader: (1)

You have a PM