PaulC72

TBH if what you are saying is correct then you should take is further and bring legal action the the seller. If not then it cannot be that bad a case.

cjquicksilver

iTrader: (23)

i said i was more than happy to take it to court!

cjquicksilver

iTrader: (23)

pm replied

FlightMan

It's a private sale, sold as seen. You'll be laughed out of court.

And have I understood this? You've spent £4,000 fixing all the problems
( 90% of which would have been spotted by a blind man either on or before the test drive ) and now you want to give the car back, and get your £1150 in return?

This has to be a wind-up surely?

SunnySideUp

Depends upon if the car is unroadworthy or not - simple as.

The Road Traffic Act 1988 makes it an offence to sell an unroadworthy car. It does not distinguish between private sellers and motor traders.

However, if BORO is a Trader and it would appear to be so, then the Trading Standards would be interested.

The Road Traffic Act 1988 does not give a definition of what is "unroadworthy", but instead makes reference to the following areas that, if not satisfactory, may lead to a vehicle being unroadworthy:-

steering and steering gear,
brakes and braking systems,
tyres,
exhaust systems,
seatbelts and seatbelt anchorages,
general condition (corrosion, suspension etc).

If the Tyres were, indeed, bald then it is unroadworthy - again, end of.

Boro

iTrader: (1)

Im not a trader Pete. The car was bought by my GF for the numberplate only. She bought it from a friend of hers, but had to MOT and Tax the car in order to get the numberplate off and on retention.

We owned the car just long enough to remove the plate.

cjquicksilver

iTrader: (23)

in boros defence tho, he did state the tyres were low, but they were more than low lol but end of now the matter is being dealt with privatly (as it should have been in the first place)

SunnySideUp

Glad you're talking off the boards - I'm sure you'll both be able to sort it mutually

Noted, you are not a Trader Boro

Good luck to you both!

dpb

All sounds dodgy to me


Whens a trader not a trader btw ?

pimmo2000

iTrader: (6)

When they're not trading ?

cjquicksilver

iTrader: (23)

done and sorted privatly now,done and dusted lessons learnt

dpb

Another satisfied customer


at the hands of the scoobynet massive

brendy76

iTrader: (6)

And not a single bloody pic? what sort of thread was this?

David Lock

When someone buys and sells motors on a fairly regular basis, say half a dozen per year, to typically "do up" and sell. Traders have a lot more legal responsibility after the car is sold than is generally known. Often this is done from a home base.

Inland Revenue and Trading Standards are always keen to stick their noses in.

dl

Trout

iTrader: (1)

I have raised this before - there is at least one person on this board who seems to buy and sell cars beyond the measure of the casual private seller. However they do not like the aspertion that they would be subject to scrutiny as a trader.

NotoriousREV

Legally if you buy and sell 3 cars a year, you're a trader.

Maz

iTrader: (34)

It makes me laugh when eveyone becomes judge, jury and executioner after hearing one side of the story. That 106 'Dimma' was a POS and hopefully you won't make the same mistake again. For Boro the whole thing seems to have backfired.

David Lock

I didn't know it was as few as that

I see that the seller bought and sold the car quickly just so he could get the plate. And why this part exchange - which also went quickly?

There are so many lessons here for both parties. The main one being don't go and get a car privately unless you know your way around a motor or take someone who does.

Plus a deal is a deal IF it was a private sale. Seller shouldn't have let the car go without all the dosh. Only thing buyer could have done was to contact the seller and ask nicely for a small refund because it was so much worse that he had thought. A lot of sellers would be grown up about this unless they live in South London in cardealersville

dl

dpb

Im betting that includes a fair number on this board in fact

So not admitting your a trader is an offence ?

dpb

Its quite intresting , nearly every man and his dog seems to be trading ( or not ) from home?? nowadays if yo look at autotrader ....

David Lock

Motor Car Traders Act 1986 - SECT 54 Obligations of motor car trader

I think this is for UK but it doesn't say so?

dl

fatscoobfella1

iTrader: (1)

I have first had experience of going to court and assertaining trader status..

When i went to court in the mid 90's,you had to SELL 6 vehicles a year to be classed as a trader.Of course it may have changed over the years.

Im glad it all sorted for you guys...

Looks to me that both people were a bit underhanded..A dog was sold to a numb seller.
Wont be the first or the last i suspect.

fastmike

iTrader: (4)

a dog was sold ? Can someone explain how anyone can come to that conclusion ?
From what i see ,,,, someone who had no intention of paying the full amount turned up to buy a car £200 short..... and after getting £100 was allowed to take the car..... and after the seller making a fuss about the other £100 hes owed the buyer is now trying to weasle his way out of looking a dishonest buyer ... even to the point of calling into question the integrity of ( lets not forget ) the guy that allowed him to take car on trust

fatscoobfella1

iTrader: (1)

Its easy to come to that conclusion....

If the car was full of faults then its a lemon...

The OP was glad to get rid of it,thats probably why he met a guy 70 miles from home and let him drive off in the car without paying for it in full..For what other reason would you do that ?

A good car will always sell,you dont have to jump through hoops to do it.A sh!tter on the other hand needs a bit of work to shove onto someone else.

SCOOBY13.5

iTrader: (3)

Well if you suspect the M.O.T report it, as its these people that put us at risk on the roads with death traps!

SCOOBY13.5

iTrader: (3)

Just to add to the thread to a few replies I have read, in transport trade there is NO such thing as 'sold as seen' anymore. That does not stand up in court anymore. ;-)

Aaron1978

iTrader: (12)

But i bet a fair bit of time has elapsed between then and now, i coud easily make 4 tyres bald in 400 miles on a car i know i'm getting rid of at the first opportunity, not to mention thrashing the **** out of it everyday(not that i'm saying the seller has done this) but it'd be very difficult for any action against the mot station IMO.