Aaron1978

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I think it would tip Telboy over the edge reading that

TelBoy

I know when something is a lost cause

G00ner

Madscanman is quite obviously Nacro on a wind up.

Xx-IAN-xX

What about Muslim farmers?

Wight Tory says:
January 6, 2010 at 8:58 am
What!! you can grow Muslims? How far apart should they planted, how deep and do they need “pricking out?”

Xx-IAN-xX

I know its the sun but

Soldiers 'called rapists by mob' | The Sun |News

J4CKO

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That is indeed mental, if he wasnt state sponsored he probably wouldnt be able to be so vocal, it's funny how they are trying to change the UK system and enforce Islamic beleif yet are happy to take money from the infidels, unbeleivers or whatever, funny how principles dissapear when cash is involved, the UK will never be an Islamic state, thats about as likely as Pakistan going Christian, its easy to get wound up in a Daily Mail style about people like this but it is a small group and I suspect most Muslims view him as we view Christian fundamentalists, there are 60 million people in this country and we dont all have moderate sensible views and people do things that I dont like or cant explain like Line Dancing and listening to R and B, eccentricity, diverse tastes, strange beleifs and whatever are fine as long as they dont impact anyone else, by that I mean violence, intimidation, forcing views on someone else or unwanted sexual attention.

Islam4uk are potentially going to cause a riot by marching in a town which has become symbolic (in the last two weeks for most of the population), generally as a country we dont support the war in Afghanistan but we do support the poor sods over thee getting shot and killed, we have no problem with any group protesting against our government but this seens an affront to the soldiers killed in action, a protest against them and their families, they are sent there by the government, they dont go over for fun, they get sent there and some come back in the back of a transport plane in a coffin to Wooton Bassett, its like us taking a six pack of Stella to Mecca, except we arent allowed there with or without a few beers.

If they want to march, however inadvisable, let them march but the press needs to not cover it, total blackout, nobody who isnt a member of Islam4uk or supporter therof can turn up, the streets need to be otherwise deserted, if the country can rally round to make an ancient shouty pop song number one over Christmas rather than the Xfactor winner then avoiding the Wooton Bassett area for a few hours shouldnt be too much trouble, but I would be concerned that the BNP, the bored, those looking for an opportunity to slap a Muslim a bit will turn up and spoil it, it may make them feel better but it will acheive nothing, the soldiers will still be dead and they will get arrested on both sides, the papers will have a field day and Islam4uk will have had more publicity than they could ever have hoped for.

Leslie

J4CKO,

There will be no kind of fair play in the way these people are thinking. They have a mantra driven by people who are working towards a goal of their own. And that is not to our advantage.

If it was possible to have deserted streets so that there was no one to demonstrate to that would be ok, but can you see people putting up with them without comment?

Like all the extremists they should not be allowed to preach sedition and violence, we have laws in place to cover that. Just the fact that such a march is likely to cause riots should be good enough anyway.

It is time to stop backing down from this sort of confrontation and I am sure that Einstein RA would be the first to agree.

Les

scoobymad555

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There's no way that march is going to happen without trouble kicking off. There's even a group on fb now with all the football firms agreeing to put their differences to one side for the day and stand shoulder to shoulder on this one.

The irony in it is amusing in a way - there's islam4uk trying to stir up trouble which they are without a doubt going to succeed with if it goes ahead yet they're totally failing to realise that at the same time they're making a rod for their own backs since the majority of the British population have had enough of being 2nd best in their own country and are now uniting from all walks to stand against them.

Personally speaking, I'm not a racist and I totally believe honest hard working people from any country or life have a right to be here if they're going to go by the same rules as the rest of us but, those that don't want to adhere to our country's laws or show our people and traditions the respect deserved simply shouldn't be here.

I think the expression is "Fit In or F**k Off!"

bootneck

The Zohan

+1

J4CKO

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Les, my thinking is that deserted streets and it passing off without any reaction would be its own comment, it is always really annoying for someone looking for a reaction not to get one, like ignoring a naughty toddler.

As for the football "firms", Jesus what a bunch of ******, pointless sad little cretins who like to fight based on what football team they support, they are just Neanderthal knuckle draggers who like to hurt people, especially if they are not white, their involvement will help nobody, they are their own extremists, do not think for one moment they are on "Our" side, they just want to batter someone and what better than some uppity "Paki's", it isnt 1982 anymore and them wading in will not help. Almost seems like there is something honourable being done here, putting old differences aside to unite against a common enemy, jesus.

Martin2005

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I couldn't agree more!

Violent football thugs and BNP/National Front 'activists' are just about the last thing this issue needs. It's time for calm clear thinking, and a rational response.

scoobymad555

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What would that be then? If they cause enough of a sh*tstorm that the weak willed brits will back down as usual and let them do what they want?

In a perfect world that might work but how many naughty children have you ever seen start behaving because they've been ignored?! They're just as likely to think "sweet! I can do what I want when I want n those idiots aren't gonna stop me!" .... which lets face it, IS what these guys are doing!

Well I have to be honest, I do pretty much share your opinion on football hooligans .... never could see the point of rucking over a bunch of over paid blokes kicking a pigs bladder around but .... whilst it's not necessarily a noble thing, surely you must recognise it does show how deep feelings go over this if that lot are willing to set differences aside.


I'm not advocating that there should be physical confrontation ... in fact quite the opposite. It should be avoided AT ALL COSTS. The potential ramifications of it are frankly a very scary proposition to consider! What I am in favour of though is something like Choudary and his senior members being rounded up and arrested on the grounds of insight to cause riot and being deported in order to issue a clear message to people like himself that behaviour like that won't be tolerated.

madscoob

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let em march by by all means on a carpet of BACON line the streets with it ime sure the bnp would sponsor the event

The Zohan

^^^^^It may just look like the apathetic Brits do not even have the gumption to turn up or even care as they are sat at home drinking stella and having sex with the nextdoor neighbour - Jeremy Kyle stylee.

Better surely would be the streets lined 10 deep with anti march protesters, they then turn their backs on Choudry and his scum followers, no noise, no fuss just turn their backs.


The reality is that if it does go ahead 1000's of peaceful anti-march protesters will turn up a then the BNP and evil neer-do-well's will also be there and kick off a confrontation and fight.

You only have to look at a lot of the comments on the facebook page (which currently has in excess of 600,00 subscribers in less 3 or so days) to see there are elements that are spoiling for a fight with the 'Paki's' and Muslims, just looking for a non white face to punch in...

the other side is of course one suicide bomber could create a massacre and huge publicity for the event and a terrorist 'win' on UK soil. Public outcry and a huge acklash against the Muslims of the UK - Terrorist win-win then

The Zohan

Well worth a watch (from the beginning for 15 mins or so)
BBC iPlayer - The Big Questions: Series 3: Episode 1

Well worth a read
Progressive British Muslims - concern over Islam4UK grows

Progressive British Muslims today announced their concern over the increased activity of the extremist group Islam4UK, which seems to be nothing more than a new front organisation for the banned terrorist organisation Al-Muhajiroun.


The founder of Al-Muhajiroun, Omar Bakri Muhammad, is given a prominent platform on the Islam4UK website, as is the former head of Al-Muhajiroun in the UK Anjem Choudary. Both have spoken at events held by the organisation with Omar Bakri Muhammad addressing followers by video-link from Lebanon.(1) Both men can also be contacted through the website.(2) The aims of both groups are very similar; to implement Shari'ah law in the UK, to build fear within the Muslim community, to convert non-Muslims to Islam, and to unite all Muslims in Britain under the banner of extremism to achieve these goals. Whereas Al-Muhajiroun was more global in intent, Islam4UK focuses primarily in establishing its aims in the UK.


Progressive British Muslims believe that Islam4UK is nothing but a front organisation set up to circumvent The Terrorism Act (2006) that prohibited Al-Muhajiroun as a terrorist group. A number of Al-Muhajiroun's supporters have gone on to become involved in suicide bombings, for instance the bombing of Mike's Place in Tel Aviv in 2003 and the attempted multiple bomb plot in 2007 that targeted a shopping centre in Kent, a nightclub in London and Britain’s domestic gas network.

scoobymad555

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hosting issues perhaps? lol!

GC8WRX

I couldn't agree more!

Violent football thugs and BNP/National Front 'activists' are just about the last thing this issue needs. It's time for calm clear thinking, and a rational response.[/QUOTE]

No its not cos these backwards tools dont understand anything but violence, they all deserve a good kicking and i hope the footy lads set their differences aside and kick the **** out of every last on of them!



I hope anjem choudry is hung from a lampost!



**** them all the backwards bunch of *******!

GC8WRX

Why arent the government shutting this website and the group down?


Its should be hacked to show a cartoon of the prophet mohammed getting bummed by jesus while eating a bacon sarnie!

The Zohan

1) Choudry is a lawyer and a clerver cant, still, the gov't should find a way to shut it down if preaching hate and racism/sexism.

2) What a vile image i now have in my head, i may need councelling

Martin2005

No its not cos these backwards tools dont understand anything but violence, they all deserve a good kicking and i hope the footy lads set their differences aside and kick the **** out of every last on of them!



I hope anjem choudry is hung from a lampost!

OK I get it now, you are a troll. I can't believe I fell for it for so long. Good work, certainly fooled me



**** them all the backwards bunch of *******![/quote]

The Zohan

^^^^WTF does this mean, Martin sort it out.

Leslie

The point I made above was that the march should not be allowed. We should not have to accept sedition and violence from these people on our streets.

Les

SetoN

You could close the shops and business's and make sure there wasnt a non muslim person in sight.

But the media and press would still be there to film the whole thing and report that the shops and business's were closed... so they still get all the publicity they want anyway.

Personally I think, although alot of the wrong people (BNP types) have jumped on the lets go down to wooton and stick up for our country 'bandwagon'. There is still the majority of them who are normal Brits, who have just had enough of seeing our country going down the drain in the hands of a gutless government who will not put 'us' first in the fear of offending 2% of the population.

Seeing so many people ready to do something about it makes me get a good feeling inside... feels a bit like national pride... from what i can remember anyway..

SetoN

Martin2005

I see the quote function has gone mad again. Either that or I've become schizophenic

chocolate_o_brian

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No martin, he's not a troll. He simply has a different opinion to yours regardless of how extreme it may be

Martin2005

No martin, he's not a troll. He simply has a different opinion to yours regardless of how extreme it may be [/quote]

Oh I just thought nobody could possibly that ignorant.

Lucky for us all that there are few like him!

chocolate_o_brian

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Well then you have lived a sheltered life.

The Dogs B******s

My take on this,,,,,total disgrace if they let them do this march,islam4uk. How about we have a uk4uk? Hope that Choudary gets a right kicking.

No Surrender.