Originally Posted by boomer

Jalal Ahmed used to have a part-time job as a baggage handler at Luton airport!!

How on earth can a (pathetic excuse of a) man who wants to destroy the west and implement his own beliefs (by whatever means) get a job on the air-side loading stuff into the hold of aeroplanes? Meanwhile innocent passengers can't carry a pair of tweezers, a bottle of water and are soon to be photographed naked in the cause of anti-terrorism

mb

Originally Posted by Timwinner

I think due to there history they didnt get custodial. I know its rubbish but in the eyes of the law they are guilty of a POA and for this the punishment is what they got if they are not known to police.
The circumstances of the offense are only used to establish the offense and do not have an influence on the sentence.

Now I know this is rubbish, and along with many other people I would have liked to see them locked up but in order to prove we are right, and to prove that the democracy in this country is right we have to accept that they get treated the same as anyone who is guilty of a POA. This understanding makes us infinitely better.

The bit that made me laugh was the after hearing statement when they said "This makes a mockery of democracy" and then later said "we will not stop until we have achieved sharia law in the UK"...... No mention of a referendum there boys....I dont think a democratic society is going to go for sharia law.


(POA = legal jargon for a public order offense)

Originally Posted by hutton_d

My view here is, as on another thread, they can *say* what they like as we do live in a democracy and there is supposed 'freedom of speech'. The fact that this case came to court has given them more publicity than they would otherwise have had, Likewise, it has highlighted *differences* between various parts of society which, if ignored, means we all live together quite happily (for the most part). Get rid of all these *equality* quangos and you'll find that a lot of this so-called *tension* will disappear. The politicians have to find ways to keep people at each others throats so they have more control!

With these particular *gentlemen* then they should be a) investigated over their welfare claims/benefits as it's obvious that if they're protesting then they are not looking for work (the fact that they are in receipt of such claims and whether that right should be there for them or anyone else is another argument for another time) and b) if they are not British citizens then they should be deported immediately as their presence is *contrary to the public good* or whatever the legal phrasing is. Yuman rites don't come into it!

Dave

Originally Posted by hutton_d

But that's the point Les. It is against the law to *say* certain things, such as 'inciting violence' for example. However it shouldn't be. At the end of the day I should be able to, for example, 'preach violence and riots', as long as I don't actually carry out the deed. What is the problem with 'words'?

Dave

Originally Posted by jods

You are talking **** Dude











(Public Order Offence = POO)

Originally Posted by hutton_d

But that's the point Les. It is against the law to *say* certain things, such as 'inciting violence' for example. However it shouldn't be. At the end of the day I should be able to, for example, 'preach violence and riots', as long as I don't actually carry out the deed. What is the problem with 'words'?

Dave

Originally Posted by renny

Don't get me started on these *******

They're obviously hell bent on stirring things up and causing recial tension - and succeeding.

I just can't believe how they're allowed to get away with it - can't someone just make them 'disappear' like they would in certain other countries.