TonyBurns

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Yes and your a moron with no clue to cars of any type

Tony

stara

face it, you drive like a grannies minge and try to justify it by saying everything keeps up with you, in fact, thankyou again i have laughed some more and here are the smilies to prove it

TonyBurns

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You just dont have a clue do you? thats what I find the most amusing, your really making a fool out of yourself I would do your homework if I were you

stara

stop trying to deflect the fact that you can't drive properly when being followed by slow cars by out-smilying me, just because you have a 'laughing' followed by a 'wink' followed by a another 'wink' with a 'double finger' doesn't fool anyone, in fact i'll see your laughing-wink-wink-doublefinger and raise you with a : lol:: cool: haaaa!

TonyBurns

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So you know what car i drive then?
Oh and have you ever driven a 306 GTI-6? (a new one or one thats actually been looked after?)

Tony

stara

tony, this is not about you anymore, it's about the smilys, and for that reason i'm out, well, going to bed as i cannot chat to you anymore tonight as i have lost the will to give a cats bollock. (i would stick some smilys in but the box thing has gone).

daviee

A standard spec C did the Nurburgring in 7mins 59secs.Thats 13 miles, if the pugs gearbox last that long or the torque steer has not put him in the trees and beats 8 mins then he can make the claim. If you want to be able to do a 9.21 second 120mph run with a 57 bhp ford fiesta.... cheat ... Quote A Quick Recap. Earth's gravity causes objects to fall. ... in order to reach the ground in 9.2 seconds, the free-falling object's ... For example, the commonly-accepted terminal velocity of a free-falling object is around 120 mph. ... over a cliff best place for chav fiestas n pugs.

TonyBurns

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Ive a feeling ive seen this before and it still wasnt a standard Spec C as there was a 17 inch and a 16 inch version (standard and motorsport) and the RA (not quite as standard as the 17 inch).

Tony

chocolate_o_brian

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What worries me is the amount of repsonces on here simply playing into their hands and taking the bait "like kids" as they so call it. The irony in this thread is astounding, especially from the newer element looking to fit in

I'm Scoob through and through, but unlike (it seems - I wait to be proven wrong) most the replies on here I've driven a scoob and a Pug hot hatch. Granted not the GTi-6, but an iconic little car in itself. It seems only a few members (Me, Tony and Daz maybe a couple others) seem to have sensible views on this.

The sensible thing to do (if you guys truley believe nothing beats a Scoob ) is sit back and let the "kids" have 5 minutes of fame/bad mouthing Scoobs. what harm is a bit of billy bullsh*t, or do you guys have something to protect

P.S. did I mention I want another Scoob

wrx_turbo_wagon

ooh does this mean me??

scooby1doo1

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Just looked up some time on that pug 306 GTI-6 thingy best times i can see standard is
0-60 7.5
0-100 20.43
60-100 12.93
QTR 15.93
Terminal speed 88.3mph

Please explain why a good standard 6 can keep up with a standard scoob of any age, never raced 1 and i dont think i'll bother, after all it's a god dam pug.


Standard classic first one i found NOT THE BEST my99-00
0-60 5.6
0-100 15.87
60-100 10.28
QTR 14.38
Terminal speed 95.18

chocolate_o_brian

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The Scoob 0-50 for a UK turbo 2000 is either 5.9 or 6.1 seconds IIRC. And yes, it's only a Pug, the same way as Scoobs are renowned for their build quality and rarity

Terminator X

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Back in 2005 that was the "standard" Spec C

TX.

Arab1

I don't know if I'm included in this and don't really care tbh, as I said I've owned a 106 xsi, wouldn't even class it as a hot hatch (more look warm or tepid) but for someone to say it would eat my basically standard turbo 2000 is nonsense so I commented on it.

I agree with TB on most of what he says and I'm well aware that many a relatively new hot hatch etc will have no problem keeping pace with my scoob, without constantly hearing how slow a standard MY00 supposedly is.

chocolate_o_brian

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It's upto you if you wanna include yourself - I don't care either in all fairness, I just made the comment as someone with experience on both sides of the fence (like Tony).

I'm not talking about modern hatches as there are some very quick little cars about now, what I'm referring to is cars of a similar age and era to the classic Scoobs. I didn't think my Scoob was slow and that was only a Turbo 2000 with suspension and exhaust mods. I miss the turbo whistling and forcing you into your seat. Yeah the throttle and steering responce is better in the Pug (as it has no creature comforts apart from leccy windows ) but the Scoob was more overall fun as it had the looks and sound too.

I think a GTi-6 wouldn't really be a choice for me as it would kinda combine the drawbacks from my Pug (not many comforts) but not have similar power to a Scoob. It would need a turbo for me, but then when spending the ££ you could (I would anyways) rather convert my current box or buy a Scoob

N_Scooby

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I was always led to believe that the Honda Integra was the best handling front wheel drive car. I've seen them be blown away by Subaru's on track days so I can't see how a Subaru will be holding up a 306

There will always be 1 off's like the 440bhp monster that blew the scoob up on the motorway (I'd hazard a guess that the scoob had approx 320-330, STI with a re-map figures). Can't see the point in bragging about it if you beat a car with less bhp than yourself

banny sti

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I would not say no to a 106 gti as a second car, as it reminds me of my previous car a swift gti and that was one cracking little motor.

Banny

Terminator X

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I've owned both - GTi6, STi Ver V, Spec C & now modded WRX. The GTi6 is a great car, I adored it it really isn't in same league as the other Scoobs that I've owned albeit I can see how it might stay with a 215bhp old ish Scoob if Pug driver is good & Scoob driver is a PSL / SSU type

TX.

scooby1doo1

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I got my information from sites with all the tech info one could every need, them times you state are from parkers not very good for tech just basic. I think you ment 0-60 not 50, even if it is a poxy 6.1 still the old french bog don't stand a chance. Going from the information I provided, but I await you to proof me wrong.

chocolate_o_brian

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Sorry, yeah I mean't 0-60.

In all fairness a car that has 85bhp more (wella an old "bog" 205 - say 48bhp more than a standard GTi-6) as standard and AWD traction will beat a n/a car - bit stupid to comment otherwise. What people are on about (but you conveniently ignore ) is when both cars are rolling and in the twisties. You can have all the traffic light sprints you want in a straight line, but the real fun is when things aren't straight, as mentioned above several times

As said, I'm on the fence with this one and actually have bias towards Scoobs, but can clearly see the defensiveness coming out on this thread, which makes you as bad as the 306 wind up merchants.

scooby1doo1

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Yes i under stand roll on crap, that's why I also posted 60-100 it's 3 seconds. It may not sound like alot, and I can't be arsed to work the distance out. But the scoob will be a fair bit away. Don't no what the pugs(306) handles like but if it beats or keeps up with a scoob in the bends so what.

chocolate_o_brian

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Thats what a lot of the debate was about, after it was quite simply decided that a 400+ 306 would trounce a much lower powered Scoob.

Myles

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A standard 6 will give a standard Imprezza a run for its money. I'm not saying a 6 is quicker, but it's not far offYes

Once they're rolling there's really not that much between that a 6. And if you are the last of the late brakers you can easily keep with one over a series of dual carriageway/roundabouts

was the quote from one of the gimps. Well I agree we dont own the Millenium Falcon, but even my banger would wipe its **** with a GTi-6. I dont like to get into the 'my car is faster than yours', because i dont even rag mine, but come on? A Peugeot 306? Really?

chocolate_o_brian

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They seemed rather childish like some on here didn't they

I suppose once rolling, the AWD has larger power losses than a FWD or even a RWD car. So would these power losses suck up some of the difference in the 215bhp and 167bhp standard? A 1996 (phase 1) GTi-6 weighs in at (according to this ) 1214 kg whereas a classic Scoob is around 35kg heavier. I'd love to see both a straight rolling race and also a twisties section between the 2 as it would be pretty interesting as the cars are chalk & cheese to each other.

Myles

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Yeah, they did, didn't they! If the guy wants to state something that just isn't true, then in my book, he is a gimp. The impreza drives like a car with more than 215 horses, as many people will agree, and the GTi-6 feels like a car with 167bhp all day. nonewithstanding the AWD losses.

Edited to add: To add some balance to my comment, a few others have appeared on the 306 thread and stated the GTi-6 is not as quick as the Impreza, so their membership is honest and realistic, it seems.

banny sti

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Bear in mind an impreza with dccd running fully open, has lower power losses than a standard impreza allowing for better acceleration. I was very impressed with the handling on a 106 gti, the little bugger was very nimble through tight corners

Banny

Myles

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The 106 GTi and the 106 Rallye are very nimble, sorted little cars, and underestimated. I owned a Clio 16v a few years ago, and I would liken their handling to the Clio. The 306 though is a little more boat like, not a Frigate, more a minesweeper really. In rough seas.

stevebt

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Isn't the 106 one of the best little handling cars around?

TonyBurns

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Yes as stated a standard pug 306 gti in good mechanical condition v a standard UK turbo or wrx will give it a very good run for its money, people forget alot of things, gearing being one of them, the gti-6 is geared 20mph lower than a uk car, they also normally push out a little bit more than the quoted figure (most are 175-180bhp), the engines were detuned from the factory, they were going to be 200bhp but peugeot decided that was too much for a fwd hatch (probably after seeing Seat's attempt )

Dont underestimate alot of the hot hatches out there, most are deceptively quick (turbo's mean jack, its just a way of getting power cheaply).

Tony

Myles

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Evo like them, the Rallye anyway. The thing is, people like to f"ck with the 106's chi, and go and put big wheels and drop it to the floor. Handles like a blancmange then. I took my Clio to a garage to put some new boots on, and the apprentice said that I should put 17s on and drop it 30 mm. I told him it was as sorted as it was going to be, and he looked at me as though I was speaking Swahili.