trackcar

iTrader: (1)

mate, anyone can spot breaks in the fins, and that should have been spotted, before the item was listed on here, then you should have posted clearer pictures of what the buyer was buying, at the end of the day you listed a turbo as being in correct order etc, and it wasnt. so to me that is false advertising and therefore you should refund the buyer in full.

nevermind all the riff raff with the delivery, fedex etc etc, that doesnt interest me. that turbo should not have been advertised as a good unit!!!

pandyman

And then you go and throw ALL of your reputation away for a lousy £150!
Surely it would have been better to accept it and just do a refund when things started to go bad with Missed deliveries etc??

I would have, not a question of who is right or wrong but a question of being seen to do the right thing, this has now cost you your reputation.

All IMHO

johngoulding

iTrader: (7)

the thing is it was holding and producing boost very well ? the breaks were at the bottom of the fins and when i felt for play there was none ? so i took a pic then i just boxed it and put it up for sale ? as i said its partly my fault and he would have got a refund if it didnt go walkies ? plus i dont think if i knew it was faulty i would have took a pic of the faulty part ( i know its not the best pic ) but still ?

johngoulding

iTrader: (7)

as the above states , i lost my whole selling rep because i sold something i didnt realise was faulty ? but its okay to just give stuff away still though as long as nobody has to pay 4 it as i doubt any1 would reject it if its 4 free ? ive got 2 kids , rent and a wife to pay 4 mate ? £150 is a lot of money to some people mate , it would have been fine if the driver would have just tooken the parcel back with him , but , because of HIS stupid mistake , i lose my selling rep , also partly because i didnt notice the fins being broken but woody was happy after a refund was OFFERED and i recieved no turbo back , due to the fedex driver , not me , nor woody ? so u mean 2 say because of a stupid old man I LOST MY REP ?

VTR steve

iTrader: (1)

Sorry to many holes in the story here. You say that the driver signed for the package but when Woody spoke to Fedex on the number you gave him they said that the driver didnt sign for the package that it was signed for by someone at your address. Add to that it seems funny that the drivers so called name is so close to your wifes name C.Bruce/C.Bryce that i find hard to believe. Then you say that you checked for play in the shaft??? The person at work who noticed the fins damaged has got no idea or knowledge of cars nevermind the ins and outs of a turbo and he was the person who first noticed the damage. It seems to me that the turbo going missing aids you more than Woody because he is £150 out of pocket plus has no turbo you on the other hand even if the turbo has gone missing are no worse off you have still got your money. At the end of the day that turbo should never of been advertised as good condition then all of this could have been avoided. Seems to me like you are the one in the wrong and you should be making an offer to try and put this right for Woody then you may save some of your selling rep if not then i will make sure i post on every thread you post in the for sale section to warn people away.

trackcar

iTrader: (1)

common sense tells you that if there are some fins ok and some that are broke then something isnt quite right, stop making excuses all the time.

im getting seriously angry that you are still trying to defend yourself.

YOU DESCRIBED A KNOWINGLY DAMAGED TURBO AS BEING GOOD CONDITION WHEN YOU KNEW IT WASNT,

please dont insult your own intelligence and make out you thought the turbo was ok. just dont go there.

stand up like a man, own up to it. and do the one good thing thats left and refund the man......

pandyman

"the thing is it was holding and producing boost very well ? the breaks were at the bottom of the fins"

So, Mr Goulding, by your own admission, you knowingly sold an item that was faulty!

Game over!

pandyman

What i cannot understand is why you seem so willing to wreck your previously good name with all this????
£150 is A LOT of money to anyone, wife,2 kids,mortgage,debts,whatever

So what you are saying is that its ok for Woody to be at a loss of £150, i take it he has no financial constraints then??-doubt that.
I take on board your point re the delivery man, however, you sent the turbo out with damaged fins, Woody would NOT have bought it if he had suspected any issues i'm sure.

To be honest i feel sorry for you,-even more sorry for Woody.

jonny_693

iTrader: (5)

Wants locking now this. The fact of the matter is if the parcel hadnt gone missing the guy would have got his refund so its pretty unfair to give the other bloke a hard time.

VTR steve

iTrader: (1)

The parcel hasnt gone missing it was signed for at the address on the delivery date as the pic on page two shows. Locking the post means it cannot get bumped back to the top and John can continue ripping people off.

Could be you next time

Woody69

iTrader: (6)

AAArrrrrgghhhhhhh, I carnt take it any more, i said I wouldnt post on this thread again but......................

John, all you have to do is "man up" and put the £150 back into my paypal account, people would give you another chance im sure, your reputation is surely worth more??

We will see what your character is made of,I am giving you a chance too redeam yourself, but i wont hold my breath

The only mistake you made is to leave your address on the inside of the parcel when you sent the turbo to me, I couldnt get it from paypal, maybe this was deliberate to get the turbo back?? who knows..................Otherwise I'd be proper F*%$ed

*goes away to check his paypal balance*

Woody69

iTrader: (6)

Who are you to decide, do you know him??

Woody69

iTrader: (6)

I just want to appologize to everybody for keeping this thread at the top!

I know how fast this section moves, im sure the matter will be resolved soon

g7prs

iTrader: (5)

You lost that weeks ago when you mis sold the "sti 8 " intercooler that was actually a wrx one. You then said you were selling it for a mate and couldnt give the guy his money back.

trackcar

iTrader: (1)

oh dear oh dear,

dont know about locking the thread, i personally think it needs stickying at the top of this page.....

mr goulding- you dont happen to drive a 3 wheeled yellow van and run by the name "TROTTER" do you??

joz8968

iTrader: (13)

GOULDING INDEPENDENT TRADERS

London * Paris * Edinburgh

bmfcrash

iTrader: (14)

Refund Woody his money, I dont know either of you, but as it stands you got £150 for a turbo that was scrap, and nobody would buy or fit to their own motor.

Pay up and everyone is even, you havnt lost anything as what you had was worthless and woody has his cash back.

Maybe if the fed-ex claim goes through woody will give you that (£75?) and that is good money for a knackered turbo.

As for your REP, the way this whole issue has been handled has done more damage than the money or faulty parts could ever have done.

I would like to see members banned from the site who sell goods and if/when things go the shape of a pear, have no clue or morals on how to make good the situation.

Alot of people running Scoobs find money tight, or they would just buy parts new. Rather than trust people with a supposed common interest to help keep their car on the road with second hand parts.

Woody69

iTrader: (6)

Even if the mods ban him whos to stop him coming back under a different name

VTR steve

iTrader: (1)

Genius

bmfcrash

iTrader: (14)

Nothing, but I would think alot harder parting with my money to a 'new' member rather than a longer standing one.

Woody69

iTrader: (6)

Yes i see where your coming from, i found it hard to part with £450 for a ecu off BIGFUD on here, hes got loads of posts and seems to be well known, so couldnt resist...............

Guess its the chance you take buying second hand

For all I know I could have pluged it in and nothing happend But its all good BIGFUD

I tried to build a good spec on a budget and I've paid the price

johngoulding

iTrader: (7)

at the end of the day i had another wheel to replace the damaged one which i got from pete at FEP when i found out from woody was also offered the wheel but didnt want it ( understandable )
ALL THIS because a delivery driver DID sign for the parcel AND did leave it outside ? i am curious to why they are giving you a refund when the parcel has supposedly according to them been signed for by my wife ? in which case would u would not be eligible for a refund as under fedex's eyes the parcel has been delivered and signed for
= no compensation ? i know u ARE eligible but the only way fedex would give u a refund is if they knew the parcel somehow was not delivered so i think u may be stirring this a bit mate AND TO BE HONEST IT IS REALLY THE BOYS FAULT FOR SIGNING IT AND LEAVING IT OUTSIDE IN THE FIRST PLACE OTHERWISE U WOULD HAVE GOT A REFUND AND I COULD HAVE REPAIRED THE TUBBY ????

Woody69

iTrader: (6)

Ive not got any money yet from Fedex, 3 days ago i put in the claim, like i said they have their own department which deals with things like this, they will contact me when they have looked into the matter further! Who knows I might not get anything

Your on borrowed time, stop talkin' bollocks, all Ive heard is you saying this and that, blah blah blah.................

Do everyone a favour and cough up, im losing paticence

Cannon Fodder

iTrader: (100)

From an impartial point of view and no relationship to either the seller or buyer it strikes me that Woody69 is the only monetary loser in this whole episode.

If you accept that the turbocharger is in effect useless and regardless of the fact that you have not received the turbocharger back he is losing £75 on the deal.

If I were the seller I would either refund the whole £150 (and wait for Woody69 to send me £75 after the Fedex claim is resolved) and accept it as a learning curve or arrange to refund £75 back to Woody69 providing that he was happy to claim the remaining £75 back and wait for Fedex to pay out.

This whole deal has done either party any good, johngoulding has come out of this badly and Woody69 is probably extremely cheesed off and now probably would not trust another seller on Scoobynet unless they are known to him.

At the end of the day I cannot influence either party but my thinking is that my reputation means more to me than £150/£75.

Terminator X

iTrader: (7)

You've not been negged on the trader score so I wouldn't worry (8+'s when I just checked).

TX.

Terminator X

iTrader: (7)

Harsh fella he's got no negative feedback on the trader score.

TX.

VTR steve

iTrader: (1)

Maybe harsh but i see Woody everyday and know what he is feeling at the end of the day if John had of been honest in the first place then Woody would of asked me about the turbo and i would have told him to stay clear. As it stands now he is £150 out of pocket and has no trust in anyone on here regardless of there trader score. The turbo going missing is a load of **** and just an excuse for John to not pay Woody back there is no way that the Fedex guy would of left a package outside someones house its not company policy. We use Fedex at work to send packages worth over £1000 the reason we use them is because they dont lose packages period.

VTR steve

iTrader: (1)

Just seen Johns other post about leaving scoobynet and crying about how he has been treated its simple mate you made the mistake by sending out a damaged turbo all you have to do is either give Woody a refund or come to an agreement with Woody over the matter. Everybodys happy all the toys can go back in the pram. Remember as it stands now you have lost nothing as you have your asking price for the turbo leaving scoobynet just makes you look more guilty. Woody only has a chance of a claim from Fedex its not set in stone that he will get anything yet. If he doesnt get anything then he is £150 down though your mistake. Even if the claim does go though he is still £75 down because of your mistake. Same with the intercooler do your homework if you advertise an STi intercooler and its not then its your fault you should be 100% sure when you advertise something then these issues dont arrise.

jonny_693

iTrader: (5)

No, not anymore than you do.

jonny_693

iTrader: (5)

I have allready been ripped off on here, as a seller not a buyer. And I learnt a valuable lesson from it.

Locking it means all the sheep cant jump on the bandwagon.