ChefDude

my personal experience is that screen res, memory, cpu speed are all pretty moot now.

I have about 8 apps i use to manipulate images and if they weren't on another phone (or apps that do similar), then that competitor phone is useless to me... I regularly dip in and out of about 90 apps actually, but when I upgrade to iphone 3gs/4 i won't get them again.

it's all about the apps now. and so many people are developing for iphone that i fear for the other phones... which are usually technically superior in some way.

Xx-IAN-xX

Looks a nice bit of kit ,as soon as these people sortr the bugs out i will be using android on my HTC Touch HD
Touch HD Android Development - xda-developers

Snazy

I have top say, on all platforms, there are way too many people developing useless apps, copied apps and pointless ones to.
Apparently (just as an example, not a snipe), only 9% of Apple developers are making money on their apps.

It would be so nice if these people with developing skills for all the platforms would just make quality apps, rather that copying, cheaper etc.

Credit where it is due, Apple has become very attractive for developers.
Can only hope that the new OS and apps platform will allow the developers for BB to excel. I can dream eh lol.

Although that said, I cant think of too many things I want for, but I guess as is the same with most apps, once you have tried a good one, you never look back.

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

Those phones aren't HTC and the p990 isn't that good as I had one and the n97 gets slated off everyone for its useless performance. Ihave had a few HTC phones and currently have a touch pro 2 as well as an iphone. The HTC touch pro 2 is the better phone and the iphone is the better gadget. Each does different things better than the other. Since I have had an iphone I don't bother with my nintendo ds anymore as the games are that good on the iphone but I still think an ipod touch would do me.

Scooby Soon!

I was in bluewater yesterday so thought I would pay the apple store a visit...

They must have had 50+ staff in there wearing blue t-shirts, I spent a good 30 minutes in the store playing with the iphone and listening to the sales speak. The stafff were mostly saying things like "oh its much more than a phone, its a lifestyle choice!" (PMSL)

I had a play with the iphone for 20 minutes, it was smooth switching screens and moving around the menus but when I started to play some music then went back to the other menus and apps it was a bit laggy?

I tried out the touch screen keyboard and to be honest I was dissapointed, both portrait and landscape was still slow and difficult to use for man size fingers, I can type 2 or 3 times quicker on by G1 (Android) or my old blackberry 8300. The much talked about multi-touch did not make any differance to me? short messages would be fine but I just can't see using it for long emails which I use my own phone for all day everyday.

IMO if the iphone had a model with a slide out keyboard, could handle email better, you could change the battery and was not so damn expensive with add on after add on I may be interested but there are already many other phones out there that can do these things!

Working out the cost of ownership in the store was £35month (24mth contract) + £60 a year for mobileme (apple staff said it was a must buy) + £179 for the phone= £1139 (£570 a year!!) This is before you shell out for all the apps that you "need" to buy.

In comparison I pay £20+VAt a month for a better tarrif and the phone I use was free, I just had to pay about £30 for a new larger memory card.

For now I will stay where I am and see what the future holds........

JackClark

Sorry to hear you received such bad and misinformed service from an Apple store, as many on here will tell you, that's very rare. I'd suggest going back and speaking to the management, they may even offer you a discount.

At the end of the day, Apple can't make everyone happy, but you may have been a bit happier were the staff not telling fibs with regards to unnecessary extras.

Snazy

Sounds like the same story for me mate, when I first used one when they launched them in Florida, I just didnt get on with the touch aspect of things.

I tend not to look too much at the monthly cost of phones, mainly because if I did I would cry, given how much my monthly spend is lol.

Sounds like your fingers made the decision for you, dont think it was the "must have" that broke the camels back. Like anything, it can take a little more time to be sure, but I have never had the faith in touchscreens to give it the time. Probably my own loss but hey.
The slide out keyboard would be a seller for me for sure, did hear a rumour, but we know what the internet is like for accuracy lol.

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

I mistype loads using a pull out keyboard as your fingers constantly hit other keys and I can type quicker and easier with just touch screen

Snazy

I make the occasional mistake with the BB keypads, even switching between the 3 of them, I still manage a pretty good success rate though lol.

Much better than I do on an iPhone/HTC/5800 or Storm

JackClark

I love the way the iPhone dynamically resizes the hot zone of your next predicted key press, if hardware buttons on other phones did that I'd be impressed.

Scooby Soon!

What phone was this? some are good some not so, for example most blackberry's have gaps between every button and the buttons are very raised, pretty much guaranteed to hit the right key, but the new Motorola droid only has the keys spread over 3 lines and are directly next to each other (I think the new Nokia N900 was like this as well when I tried it yesterday) so more difficult.

Snazy

A very funky idea indeed.
lol @ being impressed if hardware did it. Plus is, they dont need to

JackClark

Correct, Android phones don't need that functionality, the keyboard works great, but it's a rather nice bonus feature from Apple.

Snazy

Indeed, innovative as you would expect from them

May I also add Blackberry to the not needing such things too, although maybe the Storm series could benefit... Not sure if they have something similar.

JackClark

Hate to say it Snazy but the Storm - Blackberry Touchscreen - is probably the worst typing experience I've ever had, I think even you might agree. And no, it doesn't have dynamic keys, the only innovation was that the whole screen was a button, something they hastily removed for the Storm 2. Correction, it's still in the Storm 2 but is supposed to be a bit better.

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

Its on my HTC touch pro 2 and I think the keyboard is one of the better ones?

Snazy

No need to hate saying it Jack, I dont particularly like the idea of the Storm at all. Storm 2 is meant to be much improved, but that said 5.0 on the original 9500 is a good improvement too.

Hardware keyboards get my vote every day.
From experience though, between the Nokia 5800 and the Storm, I prefer the Storm, so not quite the worst IMO.

subaruturbo_18

I completely agree with that. The storm is a terrible phone, I'm glad we don't sell it!

Never used the storm 2.

I don't know why anybody would think to make the whole screen 'click' anyway?

subaruturbo_18

It's funny how people differ, i think the 5800 is one of the best touch screen phones to use. its certainly a very good first touch screen from nokia. Especially when compared to the first Tocco.

i particularly like the feature on the 5800 where the screen switches off when you put it to your ear, its very fast and smooth so you could never hit a button by mistake when in a call. I know lots of phones have this but it is noticeably good on the 5800.

Jamo

iTrader: (23)

Ive had mine a few days now, I have to say its the best phone I have ever owned. I have had an I phone too, to be honest I was worried about breaking it all the time, as im a lorry driver, the hero just seems 100 times more robust and its so easy to use, I love the predictive text on it.

StickyMicky

Did you flash the update on it?
Makes a hell of a difference, I love mine, would quite like to try some others though, but the Hero does every thing I want, it looks stylish as hell, and it has never frozen or locked up like my old symbian Nokia ****e.

subaruturbo_18

There's another flash update for it. And 2.1 comes mid march

Theres a replacement set for the Hero which i think looks great, but its not as good as the new Bravo/Desire.

HTC Legend - Full phone specifications

Jamo

iTrader: (23)

no as I said I have only just got it, how do I update it?

subaruturbo_18

HTC - Support - HTC Hero - Software Download

You will need to back everything up though as it does wipe everything.

Oh, since I'm giving you this, I'm guessing that your posting 'signature' is Morse code. What does it mean ?

JackClark

That's a pain. I was going to update my friends but HTC do not support Mac's.

subaruturbo_18

It is a shame really. I couldn't find any Mac software either. Luckily i have both a PC and a Mac.

Jamo

iTrader: (23)

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JackClark

Apple could never get away with that "An update is available for your iPhone, buy a Mac or find someone who owns one"

Snazy, am I wrong in thinking Blackberry is the same? Seems to need Internet Explorer as well! BlackBerry - BlackBerry Device Software

Snazy

Nope, I believe that Blackberry's do indeed support Mac, with specific Mac desktop software etc being available now.
Never really looked into it, not having one, but did once scout about for info for a friend who wanted to sync up.

http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/desktop/
Left hand menu

StickyMicky

They don't seam to support Linux either, which is bizzare when it is an android phone

Never could work that one out myself?!?