Flash Gordon a bully?
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Christine Pratt will be looking for a new job, another on the dole count by Wednesday.
The issue as far as her involvement in this affair was she put her self up for it in approaching the media. Her clients wanted advice not to be used as a political toy. It must have done anti-bullying a great problem for the future and who would approach them now or sorry this orginisation.
On a bright note Christine only has to move two doors up to the local Tory party HQ they may have a vacancy for talents as long as you do not want to keep her mouth shut or keep confidentiality.
Saying that the size of her keeping her mouth shut would be a problem.
The issue as far as her involvement in this affair was she put her self up for it in approaching the media. Her clients wanted advice not to be used as a political toy. It must have done anti-bullying a great problem for the future and who would approach them now or sorry this orginisation.
On a bright note Christine only has to move two doors up to the local Tory party HQ they may have a vacancy for talents as long as you do not want to keep her mouth shut or keep confidentiality.
Saying that the size of her keeping her mouth shut would be a problem.
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Christine Pratt will be looking for a new job, another on the dole count by Wednesday.
The issue as far as her involvement in this affair was she put her self up for it in approaching the media. Her clients wanted advice not to be used as a political toy. It must have done anti-bullying a great problem for the future and who would approach them now or sorry this orginisation.
On a bright note Christine only has to move two doors up to the local Tory party HQ they may have a vacancy for talents as long as you do not want to keep her mouth shut or keep confidentiality.
Saying that the size of her keeping her mouth shut would be a problem.
The issue as far as her involvement in this affair was she put her self up for it in approaching the media. Her clients wanted advice not to be used as a political toy. It must have done anti-bullying a great problem for the future and who would approach them now or sorry this orginisation.
On a bright note Christine only has to move two doors up to the local Tory party HQ they may have a vacancy for talents as long as you do not want to keep her mouth shut or keep confidentiality.
Saying that the size of her keeping her mouth shut would be a problem.
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I like this comment from Nick Robinson
Not suggesting GB isn't a bully or lose his temper but the above does suggest that the bullyhelpline people aren't exactly unbiased.
EDIT - I have to say, the more I watch and here about the tories and their "ideas" like privatising schools or being completely at odds with Labour as to when to introduce tax cuts just so they can get attention, it makes me feel as much I don't want to vote Labour I can't being myself to vote tory either.
Not suggesting GB isn't a bully or lose his temper but the above does suggest that the bullyhelpline people aren't exactly unbiased.
EDIT - I have to say, the more I watch and here about the tories and their "ideas" like privatising schools or being completely at odds with Labour as to when to introduce tax cuts just so they can get attention, it makes me feel as much I don't want to vote Labour I can't being myself to vote tory either.
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Christine Pratt will be looking for a new job, another on the dole count by Wednesday.
The issue as far as her involvement in this affair was she put her self up for it in approaching the media. Her clients wanted advice not to be used as a political toy. It must have done anti-bullying a great problem for the future and who would approach them now or sorry this orginisation.
The issue as far as her involvement in this affair was she put her self up for it in approaching the media. Her clients wanted advice not to be used as a political toy. It must have done anti-bullying a great problem for the future and who would approach them now or sorry this orginisation.
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The allegations have now been animated .... Dizzy Thinks: CGI fighting Brown! ....
Seriously, on the bullying front, I have no problem with people being shouted at if they f&ck up. If that's all Flash does then it's just a storm in a teacup. However, the allegations are about physical bullying as well. Throwing phones about, actually man handling a female assistant from their chair, etc. If these are true the man has serious issues (apart from the fact that, with Billy Liar and Ted Heath, he's the worst PM we have ever had!) and there should be some form of investigation in line withy current employment practice!
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Seriously, on the bullying front, I have no problem with people being shouted at if they f&ck up. If that's all Flash does then it's just a storm in a teacup. However, the allegations are about physical bullying as well. Throwing phones about, actually man handling a female assistant from their chair, etc. If these are true the man has serious issues (apart from the fact that, with Billy Liar and Ted Heath, he's the worst PM we have ever had!) and there should be some form of investigation in line withy current employment practice!
Dave
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Oh cry me a friggin' river ! This whole 'I'm a victim' mindset is frankly pathetic, if you don't have the minerals to endure a 110db dressing-down then go and work on a donkey sanctuary or something. Yes professionals deserve to be treated professionally, but what about inept f*ckwits that need a bollocking ? Should they be given tea and sympathy & allowed to continue to f*ck up, or should they be told, in no uncertain terms, to buck their ideas up ?
Why are you assuming that the people he was berating were actually in the wrong. How do you know he did not just lose it and took it out on them?
A man in his position of power should never have to make an exhibition of himself in front of his subordinates. As was said, with professional people it should never be better to shout and scream at them if you want to correct them but a reasoned and civilised argument would go much further to achieve the aim.
Use of gutter language and threatening behaviour shows an inability to express oneself and in fact weakens the argument. Tucker's law and to an extent your posts are perfect examples of that!
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it did -- a few years ago when we were about 12 hours away from a total financial meltdown
by that I mean no cashpoint withdrawals, no BACS transfers of pay, no debit/credit card transactions etc. nothing, zilch, nada
only cash and guns would have bought anything (and Gypsys would claim the earth)
someone sorted it out (albeit temporarily)
I don't know who, but I suspect GB had something to do with it
(please don't retort he got us into the mess in the first place)
by that I mean no cashpoint withdrawals, no BACS transfers of pay, no debit/credit card transactions etc. nothing, zilch, nada
only cash and guns would have bought anything (and Gypsys would claim the earth)
someone sorted it out (albeit temporarily)
I don't know who, but I suspect GB had something to do with it
(please don't retort he got us into the mess in the first place)
Yes , he and the recession have got us into this mess in the first place!
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A man in his position of power should never have to make an exhibition of himself in front of his subordinates. As was said, with professional people it should never be better to shout and scream at them if you want to correct them but a reasoned and civilised argument would go much further to achieve the aim.
Well you must have been able to decipher my posts despite the swearing so it in no way impedes mine or anyone else's ability to express themselves. In the real world, people swear !
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Oh I was able to decipher your post alright, but the language did not enhance it in any way.
Yes we all swear I imagine, having spent all that time in the Service I could probably leave you for dead in a match, but I try to do it where no one is likely to be offended and where the circumstances deserve it. I would not like to feel that there was a brown mist coming out of my mouth when I was trying to underline a point in normal conversation.
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Yes we all swear I imagine, having spent all that time in the Service I could probably leave you for dead in a match, but I try to do it where no one is likely to be offended and where the circumstances deserve it. I would not like to feel that there was a brown mist coming out of my mouth when I was trying to underline a point in normal conversation.
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it was the weekend in October 2008 when the UK banking industry would have collapsed -- the Exposed banks, like RBS would have taken down all the UK banks had they not been bailed out (immediate cash inflows running into the tens of billions and the underwriting of loans running into the trillions)
whatever the rights and wrongs and who's fault it was i'm not arguing over
what is undeniable - and any senior banker will tell you this, is that had not something been done then we faced a catastrophe -- by that I mean a very real potential that no banking would take place - cashpoint withdrawals, BACS, card payments etc etc the whole shebang could have shut down
it would not matter whether you had cash in the bank -- you would not have been able to access it
a very real case of the "computer says nooo"
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I'm not assuming, I read up on some of the instances of the alleged bullying. In one particular instance Brown dispensed an almighty bollocking to the subordinate who managed to lose the personal details of 2m people on a carelessly discarded USB drive. Now to me, that is worthy of an epic dressing down.
That is worthy of instant dismisal on the grounds of gross professional negligence, a dismissal which could have been communicated professionally, yet delivered in such a manner as to have made the reason abundantly clear, to the guilty party and anyone else concerned with the event.
To lose ones's temper and "dispense an almighty bollocking" is unprofessional and more often than not counter productive. It is a sign of weakness, not a sign of strength.
There are far better ways of getting the message across than ranting like a lunatic. You certainly don't need to be loud to be hard.
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you are forgetting our very own bully tsar -- whoops business tsar
the meek and mild Sir Alan Sugar
and having done some work in his private office I can tell you he his worse in private than on TV
and it runs in the familly too
the meek and mild Sir Alan Sugar
and having done some work in his private office I can tell you he his worse in private than on TV
and it runs in the familly too
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Would you care to provide any evidence that the parties mentioned have a history of dispensing verbal (and or physical) "bollockings" to staff ?
There is a significant difference between ruthlessness in terms of running a business and the bullying of staff.
Ruthlessness and desire to succeed does not necessarily mean that you're a complete **** face to face with the people upon whom your success depends.
There is a significant difference between ruthlessness in terms of running a business and the bullying of staff.
Ruthlessness and desire to succeed does not necessarily mean that you're a complete **** face to face with the people upon whom your success depends.
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But yes, I would probably want someone with *****, some serious commercial accumen and demonstrable financial success running a country, rather than an arrogant yet clearly out of touch ****.
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Oh cry me a friggin' river ! This whole 'I'm a victim' mindset is frankly pathetic, if you don't have the minerals to endure a 110db dressing-down then go and work on a donkey sanctuary or something. Yes professionals deserve to be treated professionally, but what about inept f*ckwits that need a bollocking ? Should they be given tea and sympathy & allowed to continue to f*ck up, or should they be told, in no uncertain terms, to buck their ideas up ?
Those that fanny about ******* things up need to be given a kick up the **** and refocused
And it does work.
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it was the weekend in October 2008 when the UK banking industry would have collapsed -- the Exposed banks, like RBS would have taken down all the UK banks had they not been bailed out (immediate cash inflows running into the tens of billions and the underwriting of loans running into the trillions)
whatever the rights and wrongs and who's fault it was i'm not arguing over
what is undeniable - and any senior banker will tell you this, is that had not something been done then we faced a catastrophe -- by that I mean a very real potential that no banking would take place - cashpoint withdrawals, BACS, card payments etc etc the whole shebang could have shut down
it would not matter whether you had cash in the bank -- you would not have been able to access it
a very real case of the "computer says nooo"
whatever the rights and wrongs and who's fault it was i'm not arguing over
what is undeniable - and any senior banker will tell you this, is that had not something been done then we faced a catastrophe -- by that I mean a very real potential that no banking would take place - cashpoint withdrawals, BACS, card payments etc etc the whole shebang could have shut down
it would not matter whether you had cash in the bank -- you would not have been able to access it
a very real case of the "computer says nooo"
That will be what Darling was on about just recently, ie being attacked by Flash's minions.
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Poor old Gogs, i wonder how long it is before he starts accusing the media of bullying him
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Its possible to put the fear of death into someone, without being a bully about it
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It gets worse
Here are some reconstructions of Gordon leading from the front (with a right hook)
Gordon Brown: Animation In Hong Kong Of PM Apparently Abusing And Hitting Staff | Politics | Sky News
True colours - Brown arm raised about to slap down a small child in his way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XTiI...eature=related - Gordon slugger Brown in fancy dress as John Prescott spots one of his staff in the crowd
Here are some reconstructions of Gordon leading from the front (with a right hook)
Gordon Brown: Animation In Hong Kong Of PM Apparently Abusing And Hitting Staff | Politics | Sky News
True colours - Brown arm raised about to slap down a small child in his way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XTiI...eature=related - Gordon slugger Brown in fancy dress as John Prescott spots one of his staff in the crowd
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From what I've heard GB is a complete nightmare to work with. Aggressive, arrogant, throws things around...
... however that's not changed since he was in the Treasury so its surprising its only come out now!
If you believe the civil service gossip he's not the most difficult member of the govt to work with - there are some worse characters around, just with less power!
... however that's not changed since he was in the Treasury so its surprising its only come out now!
If you believe the civil service gossip he's not the most difficult member of the govt to work with - there are some worse characters around, just with less power!