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Old 13 September 2010, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Once you get your site to look better you could join Adsense or any affiliate programme and start earning from visitors clicking links on your pages.
Would just like to recommend you do NOT do this.

Adsense works by "reading" your site, picking up on keywords, and advertising sites relevant to those words.

If you're targetting "vehicle recovery" or something as your keywords, and use adsense, you'll be advertising other vehicle recovery companies on your site, potentially sending your customers to competitors.
Old 14 September 2010, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by apples24
well.. trying to keep the website seo uptogether but calls are slow, i have adverts with yell.com yellow pages and 118. adverts on all the free sites on the net, dropped google adwords, naturally i have good weeks and slow weeks but it could be better.

id like to maximise on the resources i have which are my website etc, i think naturally my next move is to maximise on the offers i have on my transport page in the way of flyers and mail them to all local trade maybe thats the next way forward, i have been saving for a newer truck but a newer truck wont make me any more money, i get flooded with the usual cold calls and emails offering seo and we can maximise this that and the other but most of it is bull****, i sit now knowing im not making as much as i could do but its hard, but then the motor trade is hard at the mo the world and their wife are trying to make money.

i can repair salvege cars, paint cars, recover cars, do diagnostics and i trade the odd car theoreticly (spelling) speaking i should be doing well but in all honesty im scraping along and just just ticking over
At least you seem to be trying pretty hard, I hope it all works out for you.
Old 14 September 2010, 09:27 AM
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seo is naturally so important, but i sat there and thought of what i deem to be surely the most effective keywords and apply then to my wepages metatags etc.

how can people improve on it? do they just think of better words?

as for getting links to my site around the net thats not easy atal is it
Old 14 September 2010, 12:39 PM
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No it isn't but I can give you a few tips.

Put your url into any sigs you use on forums.
Join a link exchange site and swap links with similar type trades but not necessarily ones doing the same as you.
Ask people you know to give you a backlink to your website ;-)

Keyord within the text on your site are obvious SEO tips not just in meta tags, name pages using none generic words like page 1, page 2 and so on.

There are many more things you can do, constantly updating is also useful, but not always that easy lol.
Old 14 September 2010, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JayM
Would just like to recommend you do NOT do this.

Adsense works by "reading" your site, picking up on keywords, and advertising sites relevant to those words.

If you're targetting "vehicle recovery" or something as your keywords, and use adsense, you'll be advertising other vehicle recovery companies on your site, potentially sending your customers to competitors.
If, and only if, you know how to use Adsense properly you will see you can prevent competitors from advertising on your site by adding their URL to a blocked list.
Old 14 September 2010, 03:33 PM
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i looked into the adsense but got all confused and couldnt get it to work lol

how about regarding my question about the link on mateys website he has a online quotation service, id love that
Old 15 September 2010, 12:41 AM
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on the link you gave - Sell my car etc etc
looks like the contact form was done on Coffeecup form builder
its not bad but 'web guys' would turn their noses up at it (being flash) but it does the job
Old 21 September 2010, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
If, and only if, you know how to use Adsense properly you will see you can prevent competitors from advertising on your site by adding their URL to a blocked list.
So he then has to sit and add each and every competitor's site to a blocked list, very good.

If a business I'm buying from had to support themself through ads, I wouldn't be buying from them.

Adsense targets ads based on keywords, you can block URLs, yes, but you're still going to be advertising someone, or something related to the industry you work in, and ultimately giving users their exit point for your site.

A user should close the site because it's not relevant, or close a site because they have got what they wanted from it, not close the site because they've clicked a link to another similar site.

Adsense in the recovery industry would probably only give a couple of pence per click, is it really worth losing custom for 2p? bear in mind his traffic will be low as its a niche market (certain service, covering a certain area) and the eCPM will be low to start with, so all hes doing is possibly gaining a quid per year, or possibly losing each and every customer that visits his site.

Roll your eyes if you like, I've been working with Adsense et al since before "SEO" was some buzz word and everyone thought they knew everything.

It's fine, SEO as we know it will be changing a LOT in the near future due to several factors, content is king.
Old 21 September 2010, 12:31 PM
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I am sorry but that site is not good, there are a huge list of things wrong with it and why you will be losing lots of customers. Do you have analytics set up? whats your bounce rate?

I am guessing it will be high!
Old 21 September 2010, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JayM
So he then has to sit and add each and every competitor's site to a blocked list, very good.
No, he doesn't need to do anything. I merely stated it was possible where you clearly stated it wasn't. Genuinely giving incorrect information is worse than bullshít, at least with bullshít there's an air of pity.

Originally Posted by JayM
If a business I'm buying from had to support themself through ads, I wouldn't be buying from them.
A few quid through to a decent return from ads isn't supporting an entire site, merely accumulating extra 'free' money for very little work.

Originally Posted by JayM
Adsense targets ads based on keywords, you can block URLs, yes, but you're still going to be advertising someone, or something related to the industry you work in, and ultimately giving users their exit point for your site.
Oh, so now you admit you can block URLs.

Originally Posted by JayM
A user should close the site because it's not relevant, or close a site because they have got what they wanted from it, not close the site because they've clicked a link to another similar site.
If your site and business model are good enough they'll either use you or come back regardless. Worrying about competition instead of upping your own game isn't going to win business. If a visitor is leaving a site anyway then leaving via paid ads or closing the page doesn't take much thinking about as to which is more favourable.

Originally Posted by JayM
Roll your eyes if you like, I've been working with Adsense et al since before "SEO" was some buzz word and everyone thought they knew everything.
Then maybe a refresher of the facts was what you needed because you clearly didn't know everything.

Originally Posted by JayM
It's fine, SEO as we know it will be changing a LOT in the near future due to several factors, content is king.
It appears, clearly, from your admission of giving incorrect information, that rolling ones eyes couldn't be more apt.

Oh and content has always been king. It is then when a site owner isn't the slightest bit concerned about people clicking away from their site. The visitor probably wasn't going to buy from/use the site anyway and in the process the site owner earns easy money from them leaving.

No brainer!
Old 21 September 2010, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooby Soon!
I am sorry but that site is not good, there are a huge list of things wrong with it and why you will be losing lots of customers. Do you have analytics set up? whats your bounce rate?

I am guessing it will be high!


you have lost me there lol, as i say i dont know a lot
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