So a child cannot be seen to responsible to make important decisions until they are 18 and yet they can be 'fully capable of knowing right from wrong' when they are 10?

Yep, that sounds like a well thought through, logical argument to me!

As to your second point - as I posted earlier right and wrong is a very simplistic view. DL put it very well - you may know something is wrong but may not have the maturity to understand the real consequences of that action, or the moral or ethical context to take responsibility for that action.

Lying is wrong but all adults do it. We like to call it white lies, or economical with the truth but that is a created moral context we use to excuse ourselves.

Of course these kids knew what they were doing was wrong, but within what context and moral structure did they take that action. That we cannot know and legally, as you rightly point out, we as society have taken decisions as to when a person will have an understanding of that context and defined various ages that are recognised for criminal, marital and electoral responsibility, just to use three examples. In this case these children were below the ages we as a society had defined for that responsibility.

Just out of interest do the help you express your point?

 

Would that be one large one and any two small ones?

She was as i expected her to be really, awful. I believe "up yourself" is the term.

 

If you had to find Boris a suitable job what would it be?

 

For the record, I'd bum Carol till her writing wouldn't make sense on the white board

 

PM - end of!

 

You would have to gag her first though - all that shrill whining would make me go limp!

 

You have a very good point there

 

she wudnt make that noise if she was giving me a b job

 

I think it's the ghastly dresses they expect her to wear. They make her bum look massive when in reality it isn't. She has as great figure but............
I cannot stand her voice. Especially when she says the vowels. I have stopped watching the show, she grates on me so much

 

Phwoar!!!!!!

 

What's wrong with a big bum?

 

Suits you sir, does she want it sir does she want it?

 

What as Carol done to her hair reminds me of some pensioner hair do,didn't like her dress either,Grey and boring..some shocking tie wearing going on too in this program...Rachel ohhhh yea Honey

 

I thought Will Self made some valid points on the Bulger issue. Is a child who kills really more evil than an adult who does it? Whether you agree with him or not, at least he had the ***** to speak his mind which is something that a politician would never do on such an issue.

 

What does Carol advise the Tories on, does Osbourne need adding help, does DC need vowels or she just wanting to sit for the Tories as a MP.

The only thought that struck me watching her performence on QT I could take a good guess why she is divorced.

 

He comes across as a complete buffoon with no real understanding of the real world and who deep down only really cares about himself and his closest chums.

So I guess a Tory politician is the perfect job

 

What is wrong with Ms Rileys dresses!

and no her bum doesnt look to big looks just fine

 

 

There is a big difference between knowing the difference between right and wrong and having enough experience of life and being mature enough to use a vote sensibly.

Les