that 5yr old who was kidnapped in Pakistan
20 March 2010, 06:23 PM
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lol this was the exact point i was making in what i said.. when i mentioned the queen i mentioned something i can think but that i would not say, in other words i was giving an example of of something similar to how somone saying a family is guilty with out any evidence. so i wasnt actually trying to offend anyone if you understand what i mean but was just showing that sometimes you need to keep things to yourself like what i said about the queen. so relax guys this is my country and my views are my views but i was just making a point.. apologies if anyone was really offended.
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20 March 2010, 06:50 PM
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to be honest i beleive the mother and father are involved with this but i doubt they would be intelligent enough to pull it off.
i dont see why the boy was aloud to be on holiday, this is our country so abide by our rules, not your old countries.
i bet the police gave them the money, they are forever helping them out to avoid being called 'racist'.
i think if they had 100k in savings then they would of moved house....or atleast baught some deceant clothes.
i dont see why the boy was aloud to be on holiday, this is our country so abide by our rules, not your old countries.
i bet the police gave them the money, they are forever helping them out to avoid being called 'racist'.
i think if they had 100k in savings then they would of moved house....or atleast baught some deceant clothes.
20 March 2010, 07:07 PM
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to be honest i beleive the mother and father are involved with this but i doubt they would be intelligent enough to pull it off.
i dont see why the boy was aloud to be on holiday, this is our country so abide by our rules, not your old countries.
i bet the police gave them the money, they are forever helping them out to avoid being called 'racist'.
i think if they had 100k in savings then they would of moved house....or atleast baught some deceant clothes.
i dont see why the boy was aloud to be on holiday, this is our country so abide by our rules, not your old countries.
i bet the police gave them the money, they are forever helping them out to avoid being called 'racist'.
i think if they had 100k in savings then they would of moved house....or atleast baught some deceant clothes.
Poirot has solved the crime !! 
20 March 2010, 07:20 PM
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to be honest i beleive the mother and father are involved with this but i doubt they would be intelligent enough to pull it off.
i dont see why the boy was aloud to be on holiday, this is our country so abide by our rules, not your old countries.
i bet the police gave them the money, they are forever helping them out to avoid being called 'racist'.
i think if they had 100k in savings then they would of moved house....or atleast baught some deceant clothes.
i dont see why the boy was aloud to be on holiday, this is our country so abide by our rules, not your old countries.
i bet the police gave them the money, they are forever helping them out to avoid being called 'racist'.
i think if they had 100k in savings then they would of moved house....or atleast baught some deceant clothes.
Afganistan is kidnap savvy with plenty of successfull kidnap gangs out there - an English pakistani visiting relatives would tell them a few things like they have money (compared to Afghani's) and they are a soft target.
I believ he was holidaying on half term (uk) and plenty of English parents take thier kids out of term time for holidays or is that OK for 'whitie' or 'massa' to do
If you think the cops paid the ransom because they are worried about being seen as racist then you are a thicko frankly. Likely community, friends/family. The Muslim communities are known for helping thier 'brothers' in times of need. could so easily be a sympathetic annonymous donation(s)
"if they had 100k in savings..." this is the most stupid on liner on SN for quite a while and believe me you have stiff competition. WGAF, maybe they did and liked living where they are close to family and friends.
If this is how you work out guilt then perhaps you should consider a carreer in the Police
(that's sarcasm BTW
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20 March 2010, 07:25 PM
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sounds like you have had a few (pints) already.
Afganistan is kidnap savvy with plenty of successfull kidnap gangs out there - an English pakistani visiting relatives would tell them a few things like they have money (compared to Afghani's) and they are a soft target.
I believ he was holidaying on half term (uk) and plenty of English parents take thier kids out of school for holidays
If you think the cops paid the ransom because they are worried about being seen as racist then you are a thicko frankly. Likely community, friends/family, Muslim communities are known for helping thier brothers in times of need. could so easily be a sympathetic annonymous donation(s)
"if they had 100k in savings..." this is the most stupid on liner on SN for quite a while and believe me you have stiff competition. WGAF, maybe they did and liked living where they are close to family and friends.
If this is how you work out guilt then perhaps you should consider a carreer in the Police (that's sarcasm BTW)
Afganistan is kidnap savvy with plenty of successfull kidnap gangs out there - an English pakistani visiting relatives would tell them a few things like they have money (compared to Afghani's) and they are a soft target.
I believ he was holidaying on half term (uk) and plenty of English parents take thier kids out of school for holidays
If you think the cops paid the ransom because they are worried about being seen as racist then you are a thicko frankly. Likely community, friends/family, Muslim communities are known for helping thier brothers in times of need. could so easily be a sympathetic annonymous donation(s)
"if they had 100k in savings..." this is the most stupid on liner on SN for quite a while and believe me you have stiff competition. WGAF, maybe they did and liked living where they are close to family and friends.
If this is how you work out guilt then perhaps you should consider a carreer in the Police
(that's sarcasm BTW)
20 March 2010, 07:27 PM
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well ive lived in a place in glasgow with like 90% asian population and ive seen what the police are like with them. so how am i a thicko? you aint got a clue.
and how was it a stupid liner? you telling me they all have 100k then for savings
didnt you read the post about the couple kidnapt on a boat? what community?
and how was it a stupid liner? you telling me they all have 100k then for savings
didnt you read the post about the couple kidnapt on a boat? what community?
20 March 2010, 07:28 PM
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20 March 2010, 07:38 PM
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well ive lived in a place in glasgow with like 90% asian population and ive seen what the police are like with them. so how am i a thicko? you aint got a clue.
and how was it a stupid liner? you telling me they all have 100k then for savings
didnt you read the post about the couple kidnapt on a boat? what community?
and how was it a stupid liner? you telling me they all have 100k then for savings
didnt you read the post about the couple kidnapt on a boat? what community?
90% of the Asian community live in Glasgow (thats a capital G in Glasgow BTW
) - what happened Did Bradford, Leicester, Birmingham and a few other cities get bulldozed over night???I have watched the police let off white youths after getting drunk, drugged up and causing no end of problems in Northampton time after time, even offered to be a witness, statement taken and CPS dropped it. I am not saying it does not go on but it goes on for all colours and races as well, does not make it right, i belive in zero tolerance anyhow!
'I ain't go a clue' - it is kidnapped you clueless baffoon
got a clue nowcouple kidnapped from their boat whilst sailing in an area already used to pirates, hijacks and kidnappings - the pair are complete idiots, no gound agent or crew to advise them or if advised they then chose their course and to ignore the risks.
Simple - British government does not pay ransoms. if their friends wish to pay the ransom then fine by me. I doubt the UK police will just to prove they are unbiased either
A lot less sympathy for a couple who chose to sail literally into troubled watersDo i feel sympathy for the boat couple - not much, their (poor) choice.
Do i feel sympathy for the young boy kidnapped in Pakistan - yes, not his choice, his parents put him at risk although he was staying with family and friends which minimised the risks i suppose. I am glad they got thier little lad back.
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20 March 2010, 07:43 PM
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See, he has said it just before I was to post mine:
Afganistan/Pakistan - still big into kidnapping and they all look the same anyway
Paul has said a sensible thing over that 110K, though. E.g. the Muslim communities are known for helping thier 'brothers' in times of need.
Jimmy, community spirit is very strong in such ethnic groups. It is possible that you would easily let those people on the boat sail away to the heaven, even if they were your grandparents. In close-knit Asian communities, people will try to save their fellow Asian, and try their utmost to keep them on this hell of an earth.
20 March 2010, 07:44 PM
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here i am not saying im not happy that hes been found, coarse i am, hes a young lad, all im saying is that he should be at school.
my mates girlfriend is a teacher & there is a wee asian boy in her class that just goes on holidays to pakistan for weeks and on some occations a couple of months, all without permission.
i would see the point if the the family of the kidnapped had a big house and nice cars, then i would beleive they contributed the money
my mates girlfriend is a teacher & there is a wee asian boy in her class that just goes on holidays to pakistan for weeks and on some occations a couple of months, all without permission.
i would see the point if the the family of the kidnapped had a big house and nice cars, then i would beleive they contributed the money
20 March 2010, 07:56 PM
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here i am not saying im not happy that hes been found, coarse i am, hes a young lad, all im saying is that he should be at school.
my mates girlfriend is a teacher & there is a wee asian boy in her class that just goes on holidays to pakistan for weeks and on some occations a couple of months, all without permission.
i would see the point if the the family of the kidnapped had a big house and nice cars, then i would beleive they contributed the money
my mates girlfriend is a teacher & there is a wee asian boy in her class that just goes on holidays to pakistan for weeks and on some occations a couple of months, all without permission.
i would see the point if the the family of the kidnapped had a big house and nice cars, then i would beleive they contributed the money
the rest of your post is not worth the effort on comment on TBH
I hope you never have to go through the same experience and if you do you have 100k under the matress or if not accept help from friends and family.I am not saying it isn't a con and i hope it is not, your thoughtless, moronic comments drew me to this and whilst i am sure you are a throughly nice chap...for a sweaty that is.
Rest assured the British Police did not pay the ransom to keep them Muslim darkies happy
Have a good 'un
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20 March 2010, 08:03 PM
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OMG
'mates girfriend's friend of a friend who's brothers friend once met a wog '
you sound like a complete and utter fanny and you dont make one bit of sence!
i share the same opinion like many others that have posted
and yes 'NOBerator' you are indead!
'mates girfriend's friend of a friend who's brothers friend once met a wog '
you sound like a complete and utter fanny and you dont make one bit of sence!
i share the same opinion like many others that have posted
and yes 'NOBerator' you are indead!
20 March 2010, 08:09 PM
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Your opinions are that
A) The boy was kidnapped by his parents to raise money which was then paid by the British Police to keep the Muslims happy
B) Also that the boy's parents are not smart enough to have organised it.
C) If they had money they would move to a bigger house and buy better clothes - this one being my fave BTW
OK i am confused as a blind lesbian at a fish market, which is it, stooooopid dipsh*t parents or evil kidnap plotting parents, it cannot be both can it
Oh and i think you will find yourself pretty much alone with the 'British Police are paying it' theory
BTW as a noberator i think it might be you who is the f@nny and i just fcuked you
...Oh and you where cr@p BTW
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20 March 2010, 09:04 PM
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20 March 2010, 09:58 PM
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mates girfriend's friend of a friend who's brothers friend once met a wog
21 March 2010, 11:25 AM
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I'm not clued up on the case so won't comment there but have to say that the community spirit of helping is more prevalent within the asian community (personal experience).
Also - asian's tend to be better savers - and I know I'll be roasted for saying that but in my experience a lot of people tend to live 'hand-to-mouth' whereas my family and my extended family, as have others I know had it stuck into them that we spend later and save now. There have been times where I have needed help and it's always been available (financially).
And I sometimes wonder in amazement at some of the people that come on Dragon's Den for 15-20k when I'm sure I could ask within my extended family and find that kind of money available.
There are pro's and con's because the older generation within the asian community are now nursing injuries etc from working so hard to provide and get us a head start that they've not sat back and enjoyed themselves. This is now leading to a culture clash where they see us adopting to 'western' trends and despising us sometimes for 'wasting' what they've worked hard to build by doing things they simply couldn't do?
Just thoughts
Also - asian's tend to be better savers - and I know I'll be roasted for saying that but in my experience a lot of people tend to live 'hand-to-mouth' whereas my family and my extended family, as have others I know had it stuck into them that we spend later and save now. There have been times where I have needed help and it's always been available (financially).
And I sometimes wonder in amazement at some of the people that come on Dragon's Den for 15-20k when I'm sure I could ask within my extended family and find that kind of money available.
There are pro's and con's because the older generation within the asian community are now nursing injuries etc from working so hard to provide and get us a head start that they've not sat back and enjoyed themselves. This is now leading to a culture clash where they see us adopting to 'western' trends and despising us sometimes for 'wasting' what they've worked hard to build by doing things they simply couldn't do?
Just thoughts
21 March 2010, 11:40 AM
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There are pro's and con's because the older generation within the asian community are now nursing injuries etc from working so hard to provide and get us a head start that they've not sat back and enjoyed themselves. This is now leading to a culture clash where they see us adopting to 'western' trends and despising us sometimes for 'wasting' what they've worked hard to build by doing things they simply couldn't do?
Just thoughts
21 March 2010, 12:27 PM
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for example; My Sunday morning so far - Tooth fairey (that'll be me really) paid out £2.00 to our eldest last night, going in her savings account, just finished washing the car, quad, fixed the fence, cleaned the garage, drive and cut the grass and tidied up the garden.
This afternoon - Going to take the family to the local pool to continue teaching the kids to swim and improve. Will sit down to a home cooked family dinner tonight.
I am pretty sure that isn't just me/us either
BTW DCI don't start on the tooth fairey either, she does exist according to our 4 & 7 year old's ok!
you get out what you put in - mostly anyway
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21 March 2010, 01:31 PM
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Well in having an uncontroversial and balanced stance you may as well not comment. Lets look at the facts:
The family chose to put their young son in danger after probably settling in the UK and gaining British nationality. So rather than taking advantage of our civilised society, off they go back to the badlands of Pakistan on a jolly where kidnapp and murder is the norm.
The boy gets kidnapped and the family raise 100 grand at the drop of a hat, and lets realise that the mother works in Iceland, now the only person i know that was on that sort of money working for Iceland was that silly cow Kerry Katonia
Now i've always been in employment since leaving school and have earned decent money so far, but i could not afford to go jet setting around the world, and if i had a situation where i had to raise 100 grand tomorrow and my life depended on it, i admit i could not do it.
As a parent i would not put my family in danger if i had been given the opportunity to settle in a civilised country. And if anybody have made an attempt to kidnapp my son or daughter, lets just say there would be desperate people even more desperate because they would end up with their bollox in a sling.
Look at the Madeline case, these were supposedly inteligent professional people who chose to abandon their children, the things most precious
**** me, i won't even leave my Impreza in a supermarket car park never mind leave my kids alone in a strange country!
The whole situation is very suspicious, and i think it difficult to convey a balanced view and uncontroversial stance.
The family chose to put their young son in danger after probably settling in the UK and gaining British nationality. So rather than taking advantage of our civilised society, off they go back to the badlands of Pakistan on a jolly where kidnapp and murder is the norm.
The boy gets kidnapped and the family raise 100 grand at the drop of a hat, and lets realise that the mother works in Iceland, now the only person i know that was on that sort of money working for Iceland was that silly cow Kerry Katonia
Now i've always been in employment since leaving school and have earned decent money so far, but i could not afford to go jet setting around the world, and if i had a situation where i had to raise 100 grand tomorrow and my life depended on it, i admit i could not do it.
As a parent i would not put my family in danger if i had been given the opportunity to settle in a civilised country. And if anybody have made an attempt to kidnapp my son or daughter, lets just say there would be desperate people even more desperate because they would end up with their bollox in a sling.
Look at the Madeline case, these were supposedly inteligent professional people who chose to abandon their children, the things most precious
**** me, i won't even leave my Impreza in a supermarket car park never mind leave my kids alone in a strange country!
The whole situation is very suspicious, and i think it difficult to convey a balanced view and uncontroversial stance.
I made my post deliberately to indicate that I was not prepared to accuse them of wrongdoing without positive evidence and I am perfectly entitled to say that without someone like you shooting your mouth off, as you have with rude and unnecessary comment about my character.
If it ever turned out that they were involved in trickery then I would be amongst the first to denigrate them for it. If you want to "gossip over the garden fence" about it, that is your prerogative, but kindly keep your trolling to yourself.
Thanks Einstein.
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21 March 2010, 01:37 PM
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Twelve hour night shifts in a textile factory were the norm when my late father came to this country. Infact fourteen and sixteen hour shifts were common. For over forty years my old dad worked in this factory before falling ill at the age of sixty three. Six weeks after going in to hospital he was dead. Kind of ironic really, worked his butt off years and just before retirement fate deals a cruel blow. Anyhow the upshot of his hard work was all six of his sons are now living comfortably and debt free. This is how the elders built up a foundation for those who followed. Sorry for the diversion.
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