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19 March 2010, 01:59 PM
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I've no interest in drugs & have never used them. IMHO just inform people of the dangers then just leave em to it. If they want to dabble & run the risk of injury or death then so be it ... natural selection at its best.
I do get the hump with the state sticking its oar in to everything as though we're unable to think for ourselves
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I do get the hump with the state sticking its oar in to everything as though we're unable to think for ourselves
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19 March 2010, 02:14 PM
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Ok point 1,
I said people that take plant food as a recreational drug dont seem to bright, and I stand by that. Not all drug users.
Point 2:
Before I changed to a professional career I worked in Music for many many years, I have lead far from a sheltered life but I still think taking plant food is stupid.
Point 3:
I dont read the mail/sun, Now you are generalising in as much as you are suggesting people who think taking plant food is stupid read tabloids.
Point 4:
If it has a disclaimer saying HUMANS DO NOT TAKE then I stand by the comments that it makes a person stupid if they ignore that warning.
Point 5:
methadrone contains NO MDMA
Point 6:
While we are on the generalising theme you assumption that I go out and get "tanked" puke, eat takeaways and swear at nurses has as much foundation as your initial argument.
I am a married man with a child on the way, I have never and will never be one of those people.
Still I am not hearing you reply to the debate. Remember the stance you have taken is this.
I think its smart to take plant food marked NOT FIT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION because.......
I said people that take plant food as a recreational drug dont seem to bright, and I stand by that. Not all drug users.
Point 2:
Before I changed to a professional career I worked in Music for many many years, I have lead far from a sheltered life but I still think taking plant food is stupid.
Point 3:
I dont read the mail/sun, Now you are generalising in as much as you are suggesting people who think taking plant food is stupid read tabloids.
Point 4:
If it has a disclaimer saying HUMANS DO NOT TAKE then I stand by the comments that it makes a person stupid if they ignore that warning.
Point 5:
methadrone contains NO MDMA
Point 6:
While we are on the generalising theme you assumption that I go out and get "tanked" puke, eat takeaways and swear at nurses has as much foundation as your initial argument.
I am a married man with a child on the way, I have never and will never be one of those people.
Still I am not hearing you reply to the debate. Remember the stance you have taken is this.
I think its smart to take plant food marked NOT FIT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION because.......
I think its smart to take plant food marked NOT FIT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION because (apart from the fact i never said that in the first place) apart from not being plant food, some people smoke, some people drink and some people take recreational drugs.
Now tell me how any of them are different????
19 March 2010, 03:16 PM
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+1 jonny
Our society is saturated with hypocrisy, and sheep who'll believe anything the media puts out. I'm completely amazed at how many take everything at face value.
It's labelling as 'Plant food' and 'Not fit for human consumption' are simply there to get around the law. This information has nowt to do with anything. (don't do this stuff or intend to...)
Quickly brick up your doorways to stop the plague of frenzied addicts from kicking down your doors!
Our society is saturated with hypocrisy, and sheep who'll believe anything the media puts out. I'm completely amazed at how many take everything at face value.
It's labelling as 'Plant food' and 'Not fit for human consumption' are simply there to get around the law. This information has nowt to do with anything. (don't do this stuff or intend to...)
Quickly brick up your doorways to stop the plague of frenzied addicts from kicking down your doors!
19 March 2010, 03:22 PM
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Well there we go your argument was Because other people do other things.
So in essence you have called me a **** and come back with the argument that ultimately reads "the other kids do it"
If you are going to take stuff that kills you, knowingly take stuff that kills you then it is just a modern version of natural selection.... Even if the big boys are doing it too
So in essence you have called me a **** and come back with the argument that ultimately reads "the other kids do it"
If you are going to take stuff that kills you, knowingly take stuff that kills you then it is just a modern version of natural selection.... Even if the big boys are doing it too
19 March 2010, 03:55 PM
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So what exactly are its effects?
I had some of those pep-pills in the past but found the high more of an irritance than anything else. These things bandied about as Es these days are a very poor relation to "the good old days" of the 90s.
Drugs are rubbish in this country IMO.
I had some of those pep-pills in the past but found the high more of an irritance than anything else. These things bandied about as Es these days are a very poor relation to "the good old days" of the 90s.
Drugs are rubbish in this country IMO.
19 March 2010, 04:03 PM
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I feel really sorry for people who need to take something to a dangerous excess, when the time comes and they get rushed into hospital they should turn them away. Then they can concentrate on making really ill people better. Its just sad that they might drive whilst off their head (I'm including alcohol to excess too) and take out a member of your (or my) family.
But if you take happy pills do us all a favour and take enough so you dont bother any one in the future.
But if you take happy pills do us all a favour and take enough so you dont bother any one in the future.
19 March 2010, 04:03 PM
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lad at work has taken this. Said it was like a good e mixed with the alert effects of coke. It's not for me but if that's your thing it sounds quite a good buzz i expect.
19 March 2010, 05:19 PM
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The government should look at why people are taking it, they continually increase the tax of alcohol so its a cheap way to go out and get smashed at the weekend.
I think all drugs should be legalised and then some control over the exact contents of whats being taken will be known and will prob pay off the national debt overnight as so many people are taking drugs every week!
I think all drugs should be legalised and then some control over the exact contents of whats being taken will be known and will prob pay off the national debt overnight as so many people are taking drugs every week!
19 March 2010, 05:45 PM
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Ok point 1,
I said people that take plant food as a recreational drug dont seem to bright, and I stand by that. Not all drug users.
Point 2:
Before I changed to a professional career I worked in Music for many many years, I have lead far from a sheltered life but I still think taking plant food is stupid.
Point 3:
I dont read the mail/sun, Now you are generalising in as much as you are suggesting people who think taking plant food is stupid read tabloids.
Point 4:
If it has a disclaimer saying HUMANS DO NOT TAKE then I stand by the comments that it makes a person stupid if they ignore that warning.
Point 5:
methadrone contains NO MDMA
Point 6:
While we are on the generalising theme you assumption that I go out and get "tanked" puke, eat takeaways and swear at nurses has as much foundation as your initial argument.
I am a married man with a child on the way, I have never and will never be one of those people.
Still I am not hearing you reply to the debate. Remember the stance you have taken is this.
I think its smart to take plant food marked NOT FIT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION because.......
I said people that take plant food as a recreational drug dont seem to bright, and I stand by that. Not all drug users.
Point 2:
Before I changed to a professional career I worked in Music for many many years, I have lead far from a sheltered life but I still think taking plant food is stupid.
Point 3:
I dont read the mail/sun, Now you are generalising in as much as you are suggesting people who think taking plant food is stupid read tabloids.
Point 4:
If it has a disclaimer saying HUMANS DO NOT TAKE then I stand by the comments that it makes a person stupid if they ignore that warning.
Point 5:
methadrone contains NO MDMA
Point 6:
While we are on the generalising theme you assumption that I go out and get "tanked" puke, eat takeaways and swear at nurses has as much foundation as your initial argument.
I am a married man with a child on the way, I have never and will never be one of those people.
Still I am not hearing you reply to the debate. Remember the stance you have taken is this.
I think its smart to take plant food marked NOT FIT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION because.......
Point 8: Making points is pointless
Point 9: The only debate is the one you're having with yourself
Point 10: Wow... you're married with a child on the way - what does that prove - you don't use contraception?
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19 March 2010, 08:09 PM
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Mate, I know you use internet forum to annoy people, and I liked it better when you didnt use this place.
I was having a debate with another user I think that was obvious even for you to see. Please for once, just for once shut up.
Your input, as always, is useless.
The other user I was talking is a regular, we sometimes agree we sometimes disagree, and I have no negative feelings towards him.
And surely if you are going to quote 80's comedy to try an impress (whowever it is you try to impress with your constant unwanted drivel) then get it right Tim Nice But Dim Winner. Or replace Nice with one of your witty replies but at least understand that Tim but dim does not make any sense.
Last of all, If you ever find a girl that will let you have sex on her, and that is a bit IF, then you will learn pretty fast that if you want kids then you dont use contraception.
19 March 2010, 09:18 PM
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If people choose to take it then it's their choice, i just hope they find a nice quiet corner to die in if they are going to have an adverve reaction to it, rather than take up much needed space in hospitals.
20 March 2010, 10:42 AM
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Are there any statistics on this? It seems two people have died from a cocktail of drink and drugs and MeowMeow has been singled out as the main culprit, if this is the case surely there are more recorded events?
Death by Meow, buzz aside not something rock and roll to have on your headstone
Death by Meow, buzz aside not something rock and roll to have on your headstone
20 March 2010, 11:08 AM
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20 March 2010, 12:52 PM
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This drug is already making an impact on to the way of lives for many people.
Yesterday, an emergency call was placed to our call centre, by a 12 year old girl. Three officers were dispatched to the scene as the summary of the emergency was that there was a group of almost twenty 15-18 year olds outside the house of this young girl.
Why? This young girl was unfortunate enough to be home alone while her sister was at the hospital receiving a check-up after taking this stuff.
The sister's school had found out the elder sister had taken it and also found out who else had been taking it. These other kids then received a bollocking from their school and then headed round to see the girl they thought had grassed them up.
It turned out that the girl wasn't there, but little sis was. The group of teenagers were hammering on the door, pushing threatening notes through the door, trampling the garden and ripping up plants and garden furniture as their intended target was not there.
Unluckily, the young girl only recognised one offender who we picked up shortly after. Luckily, we got this one, the ring leader, before she got to big sister. I'm sure such a large group would have inflicted some serious punishment on the girl if they had got their hands on her.
In terms of what is it costing the public? Well you've got the police involvement in man hours and resources, legal representatives etc, both sets of parents had to leave work early, and then there is the trauma caused to the young girl which you can't put a price on. If there had been physical violence, then there would have been an huge increase in both financial, physical and emotional costs.
This is simply one incident. If this can be prevented from being repeated, I'm all for it. More time for us to get out there and target Billy Burglar who broke in to your granny's house and stole her life savings.
Yesterday, an emergency call was placed to our call centre, by a 12 year old girl. Three officers were dispatched to the scene as the summary of the emergency was that there was a group of almost twenty 15-18 year olds outside the house of this young girl.
Why? This young girl was unfortunate enough to be home alone while her sister was at the hospital receiving a check-up after taking this stuff.
The sister's school had found out the elder sister had taken it and also found out who else had been taking it. These other kids then received a bollocking from their school and then headed round to see the girl they thought had grassed them up.
It turned out that the girl wasn't there, but little sis was. The group of teenagers were hammering on the door, pushing threatening notes through the door, trampling the garden and ripping up plants and garden furniture as their intended target was not there.
Unluckily, the young girl only recognised one offender who we picked up shortly after. Luckily, we got this one, the ring leader, before she got to big sister. I'm sure such a large group would have inflicted some serious punishment on the girl if they had got their hands on her.
In terms of what is it costing the public? Well you've got the police involvement in man hours and resources, legal representatives etc, both sets of parents had to leave work early, and then there is the trauma caused to the young girl which you can't put a price on. If there had been physical violence, then there would have been an huge increase in both financial, physical and emotional costs.
This is simply one incident. If this can be prevented from being repeated, I'm all for it. More time for us to get out there and target Billy Burglar who broke in to your granny's house and stole her life savings.
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20 March 2010, 02:07 PM
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I think it is a real worry that the use of drugs seems to be becoming more and more widespread.
Wonder what it is that is making so many pump such dangerous crap into their bodies in order to get some artificial aid to bolster themselves up. Is the world such a terrible place now that they have to use such dangerous substances to get their heads out of it regardless of the deleterious effects they have on the body.
Even when its just alcohol, people feel they have to get totally rat-arsed until they don't know whats happening any more!
Whats going wrong?
Les
Wonder what it is that is making so many pump such dangerous crap into their bodies in order to get some artificial aid to bolster themselves up. Is the world such a terrible place now that they have to use such dangerous substances to get their heads out of it regardless of the deleterious effects they have on the body.
Even when its just alcohol, people feel they have to get totally rat-arsed until they don't know whats happening any more!
Whats going wrong?
Les
20 March 2010, 06:32 PM
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Leslie,
Nothing has changed, if you look back 10, 20, 100 years people have been pumping things into their bodies.
Swinging 60's, Acid 80's are the recent trends but you can look a lot further back in time to places all round the world and see the same.
Nothing has changed, if you look back 10, 20, 100 years people have been pumping things into their bodies.
Swinging 60's, Acid 80's are the recent trends but you can look a lot further back in time to places all round the world and see the same.
20 March 2010, 06:53 PM
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But it doesn't mean that it didn't happen. There are enough substances, like you listed, so we don't really need additional being made available.
20 March 2010, 06:59 PM
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Coke is a big problem - Child cocaine treatment rises by more than 65% | Society | guardian.co.uk
Its cost is less than 20+ years ago, not even taking into account cost of living and it is easy to get hold of.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ing-in-UK.html
Agreed, new drugs to get around laws are not new, what is worrying is the number of people who are willing to sell you anything from class A's to 'plant food' in pretty much any pub, club, internet or via a 'mate', just a mobile call away. Of course they supply a demand although they seem happy to create demand by getting kids first curious then recreational users and finally hooked, same can be said for adults.
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20 March 2010, 07:40 PM
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Lol there are more people die from smoking related diseases every hour than have probably ever died on this drug. And thats not illegal, probably the same with alcohol.
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20 March 2010, 10:25 PM
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Precisely. This has been blown completely out of proportion allready by the drugs are bad brigade. And if you want a simple answer if alcohol wasnt so bloody expensive maybe people wouldnt look elsewhere for a cheap high.
20 March 2010, 11:11 PM
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People like escaping reality and the hum drum of life at times. It's no shock people take substances that alter our perception of our lives. it's how you control that which is the issue. It's one reason I love playing sport. It takes your mind away from the worries of life and all you think about at that time is what you're doing. It's a nice break from the reality of our lives. Drugs do the same thing.
