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21 March 2010, 03:32 PM
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I was referring to one person in general although it may have seemed otherwise which I do apologise.If you have worked hard an earned a nice car, then become disabled then you are perfectly entitled to use the badge.
However one of our old managers used His Mothers blue badge simply to avoid car parking charges that us green eyed monsters had to pay, and I'd like to have seen him pack his mum and her wheelchair into a boxter.
Also lets not forget that some people receiving dla and use the mobility scheme carry on working, it is only the 20 somethings with a "bad back" and people who abuse blue badges that get my back up.
However one of our old managers used His Mothers blue badge simply to avoid car parking charges that us green eyed monsters had to pay, and I'd like to have seen him pack his mum and her wheelchair into a boxter.
Also lets not forget that some people receiving dla and use the mobility scheme carry on working, it is only the 20 somethings with a "bad back" and people who abuse blue badges that get my back up.
, did not realise you meant a particular individual and his illegal habits with his mother's blue badge. That is very bad of course for all sorts of reasons. He could be using a disabled parking spot thus denying it to someone who really needed it and of course if he ever got caught at it by the authorities his mother would have her badge taken off her. Illegal use of the badge is a particularly selfish action.Les
21 March 2010, 04:01 PM
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Maybe you knew you couldn't hoodwink me into believing your intended magnanimous gesture wasn't exactly as it seemed.
You never said you weren't claiming it but then I never said you did. I also don't know you are entitled to it either, why should I? I don't know you. In my opinion you did however imply you weren't, hence my question, the point of my post, which obviously touched a nerve for you to spit out your Werthers.
How does using your own car save the country a great deal more money when you get the allowance in cash anyway? In lots of deals you simply hand over the allowance for 3 years and no deposit is required?
My original question was not a criticism either, merely a question to determine clarity of your original veiled statement.
Let me remind you of your original post.
You never said you weren't claiming it but then I never said you did. I also don't know you are entitled to it either, why should I? I don't know you. In my opinion you did however imply you weren't, hence my question, the point of my post, which obviously touched a nerve for you to spit out your Werthers.
How does using your own car save the country a great deal more money when you get the allowance in cash anyway? In lots of deals you simply hand over the allowance for 3 years and no deposit is required?
My original question was not a criticism either, merely a question to determine clarity of your original veiled statement.
Let me remind you of your original post.
I said I prefer to use my own car, believe it or not, because I like it! I am perfectly happy to use my own car, pay my own insurance and servicing costs, because as I said it suits my own preferences.
The mobility allowance, which surely you realise that you don't get unless you are entitled to it, having been examined by two independent doctors appointed by the authorities. It helps of course towards the costs of running my car, without which I would not be able to get around. I can't believe how it couldn't cost the authorities less than providing me with a new car every three years, insuring it and servicing it!
You may remember a while ago that you accused me of not being disabled when you admitted that in the first place you are not medically qualified and that of course you have not even met me. Pretty clever eh!
You appear to be very quick to accuse people with no evidence whatsoever. Is your opinion coloured by your earlier totally magical medical assessment?
Les
21 March 2010, 06:02 PM
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You seem to say a lot which does not add up. How can you say that my original post was veiled in the first place, and why would I say what I did if I was not fully entitled to claim mobility allowance? How on earth did that appear to mean that I was not really entitled to the allowance? Why are you accusing me of trying to hoodwink anyone. If I was talking about claiming Motability then surely I must be entitled to it!
I said I prefer to use my own car, believe it or not, because I like it! I am perfectly happy to use my own car, pay my own insurance and servicing costs, because as I said it suits my own preferences.
The mobility allowance, which surely you realise that you don't get unless you are entitled to it, having been examined by two independent doctors appointed by the authorities. It helps of course towards the costs of running my car, without which I would not be able to get around. I can't believe how it couldn't cost the authorities less than providing me with a new car every three years, insuring it and servicing it!
The mobility allowance, which surely you realise that you don't get unless you are entitled to it, having been examined by two independent doctors appointed by the authorities. It helps of course towards the costs of running my car, without which I would not be able to get around. I can't believe how it couldn't cost the authorities less than providing me with a new car every three years, insuring it and servicing it!
You may remember a while ago that you accused me of not being disabled when you admitted that in the first place you are not medically qualified and that of course you have not even met me. Pretty clever eh!
You appear to be very quick to accuse people with no evidence whatsoever. Is your opinion coloured by your earlier totally magical medical assessment?
Les
You appear to be very quick to accuse people with no evidence whatsoever. Is your opinion coloured by your earlier totally magical medical assessment?
Les
Strange you say I have not of course met you now when it suits. Previously I was meant to know you were disabled.
Again, for clarity I wasn't accusing you of anything. I asked a question. Your reply reminds me of the incidents you see day in day out when somebody makes a mistake driving, and instead of saying sorry their embarrassment causes them to swear or stick their fingers up at the wronged person causing ill feeling.
However, it goes without saying you have the right to reply how ever poor the reply is.
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22 March 2010, 02:13 AM
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Leslie are you on Incapacity Benefit also?
My wife is in a similar position but is on the mend, permitted work soon and hopefully we can get rid of the benefits, it would be damn easy to milk the system. once your in your in.
Im sure some council estates train in the art of it.
My wife is in a similar position but is on the mend, permitted work soon and hopefully we can get rid of the benefits, it would be damn easy to milk the system. once your in your in.
Im sure some council estates train in the art of it.
02 May 2010, 01:20 PM
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That is an ill informed and thoughtless post.
If the disabled person concerned is able to get into and out of the vehicle and drive it safely in spite of his disability, there is no earthly reason why he can't own such a vehicle. To say otherwise smacks of "green eyes"!
There are many ways in which one can be officially disabled, and if it is such that you can still drive-so much the better. Its bad enough having to live with the the restrictions involved without having the fully fit criticising unfairly.
Les
If the disabled person concerned is able to get into and out of the vehicle and drive it safely in spite of his disability, there is no earthly reason why he can't own such a vehicle. To say otherwise smacks of "green eyes"!
There are many ways in which one can be officially disabled, and if it is such that you can still drive-so much the better. Its bad enough having to live with the the restrictions involved without having the fully fit criticising unfairly.
Les
02 May 2010, 01:27 PM
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I live in a crummy town in Northumberland and see literally hundreds of motability cars driving around, and parked in local council estates. None of them, however, or shall I say, less than 1 in a hundred, have anyone in the car that is disabled in anyway at all. They are usually rough looking scum that are all fully abled bodied and uninhibited completely. What they all do is find an elderly relative, or someone in their 50s (classed as elderly in rough places!) to fein an injury of somekind and apply for the higher rate allowance, they then put money (again tax payers or drug money) towards the car and get the top of the range models, i.e £23000 Citroen C4 Picasso Exclusive, top of the range Mondeo Ghia etc...
I annoys me that people on this forum defend this scum and call us "hateful" of "discriminatory", let's not forget folks, would you expect a brand new car for nothing?
I annoys me that people on this forum defend this scum and call us "hateful" of "discriminatory", let's not forget folks, would you expect a brand new car for nothing?
02 May 2010, 11:45 PM
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I went round to nick an unemployed woman a couple of days a go. On her driveway is a two and a half week old Astra.
Take a drive around your local council estates and spot the amount of new cars - it's astounding. I see more council houses which are, quite frankly **** holes inside, the type where you wipe your feet on the way out, and then douse yourself in Febreze to take the smell away and wonder how people can live wih dog crap on the floor, bin bags of garbage inside etc, yet on the driveway is a practically brand new car!
I know of a female, in her late 20's to early 30s, who drives a 2009 Saab convertible, which is a Motabiliy car. It's strange how she is too disabled to work, yet mysteriously able enough to be able to deal drugs.
Take a drive around your local council estates and spot the amount of new cars - it's astounding. I see more council houses which are, quite frankly **** holes inside, the type where you wipe your feet on the way out, and then douse yourself in Febreze to take the smell away and wonder how people can live wih dog crap on the floor, bin bags of garbage inside etc, yet on the driveway is a practically brand new car!
I know of a female, in her late 20's to early 30s, who drives a 2009 Saab convertible, which is a Motabiliy car. It's strange how she is too disabled to work, yet mysteriously able enough to be able to deal drugs.
Dear God, do you have to remind us in every post you make that you're a Government ****, tax collector, most untrustworthy piece of **** in existence, It's tiresome piggy bloke!
03 May 2010, 12:32 AM
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03 May 2010, 09:13 AM
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I live in a crummy town in Northumberland and see literally hundreds of motability cars driving around, and parked in local council estates. None of them, however, or shall I say, less than 1 in a hundred, have anyone in the car that is disabled in anyway at all. They are usually rough looking scum that are all fully abled bodied and uninhibited completely. What they all do is find an elderly relative, or someone in their 50s (classed as elderly in rough places!) to fein an injury of somekind and apply for the higher rate allowance, they then put money (again tax payers or drug money) towards the car and get the top of the range models, i.e £23000 Citroen C4 Picasso Exclusive, top of the range Mondeo Ghia etc...
I annoys me that people on this forum defend this scum and call us "hateful" of "discriminatory", let's not forget folks, would you expect a brand new car for nothing?
I annoys me that people on this forum defend this scum and call us "hateful" of "discriminatory", let's not forget folks, would you expect a brand new car for nothing?
03 May 2010, 10:22 AM
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"****"?? for being annoyed about OUR taxes being wasted on fraudsters?? You're a blindfolded idiot my friend!
03 May 2010, 10:54 AM
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No it wasn't, DLA allowance isn't for able bodied people, it's specifically for people that cannot walk far and have very limited mobility, now getting into and out of a Porsche or any low slung sports car requires a great degree of mobility even ablebodied people struggle with, let alone a person with limited ability!
Read my post again properly and you will see what I mean about the various kinds of disability and how they can all affect a person's ability to get around!
There is no reason, apart from your own green eyes, why a disabled person cannot drive a delectable car around if he chooses. The fact that he can get in and out of it does not necessarily mean that he can walk unlimited distances.
Just think on will you!
Les
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