Why work when you can get £42000 a year in benefits and drive a mercedes
13 April 2010, 10:11 PM
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It would be great if someone had the ***** to do this, Lumy, but it will never happen. This Country is now very much known as a soft touch!!
I do the accounts for a factory, and some of the men are earning not much above the minimum wage and supporting a family of a few kids. One has 5 kids and his wife only works part time.
His philosophy is, he would rather struggle and be proud, than sponge.
I detest the smugness of these scroungers who think it is their right to do nowt but live like kings. At the expense of all us hard working buggers
I do the accounts for a factory, and some of the men are earning not much above the minimum wage and supporting a family of a few kids. One has 5 kids and his wife only works part time.
His philosophy is, he would rather struggle and be proud, than sponge.
I detest the smugness of these scroungers who think it is their right to do nowt but live like kings. At the expense of all us hard working buggers
We HAVE to do something. As all of her kids are growing up learning that the best way to live life is to do **** all. If each one of those kids goes on to have 8 children working the system the same way it will not take many years before there is such an explosion of benefit sponges that there literally will not be enough money in the pot to pay them.
13 April 2010, 10:27 PM
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Something has to happen. Social security costs are already this country's greatest expense. Total income tax revenue is less than we spend on social security (I think I am right in saying that).
We HAVE to do something. As all of her kids are growing up learning that the best way to live life is to do **** all. If each one of those kids goes on to have 8 children working the system the same way it will not take many years before there is such an explosion of benefit sponges that there literally will not be enough money in the pot to pay them.
We HAVE to do something. As all of her kids are growing up learning that the best way to live life is to do **** all. If each one of those kids goes on to have 8 children working the system the same way it will not take many years before there is such an explosion of benefit sponges that there literally will not be enough money in the pot to pay them.
There is a £30 billion black hole between incvome tax coming in and welfare payments going out, add to that the fact that fuel duty no longer covers the interest on our national debt. Sooner or later we are going to run out of moiney if nothing is done.
13 April 2010, 11:05 PM
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Channel 4 got it bang on "Shameless" , I have worked for everything i have get full pay for being off sick in my work and not had a sickday in 14 years. My wife lost job 10 years ago was unemployed 5 months, I kept her rather than let her feel ashamed beggin a giro, Some people feel its a god giving right the benifit they get. Have they no pride ?
13 April 2010, 11:07 PM
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I work hard for 6 days a week to look after my 2 kids i get very little of the goverment and prefer not 2
These scroungin tw@ts need the snip at 14
I agree that after 2 kids the benefits should stop , i also think that if u don't work u shouldn't get a penny ,
when i was a kid it was hard and i'm only 28 until i was 12 i had to wear my oldder brothers hand me downs but it was like that for most the kids on my estate , it was then i started to work for what i have now
I only had kids when i knew i could afford em
We can all moan about this but the goverment , Labour , conservative etc will not do anything about this so we have to put up with it
Another rant - my older brother has Brain damge and my mother tried recently for mobility but they refused saying he was still mobile on his own , yet a chap next door his wife has been diagnosed with M.E (only 20% in UK believe in it ) it last for 3 yrs max She gets fookin mobility
These scroungin tw@ts need the snip at 14
I agree that after 2 kids the benefits should stop , i also think that if u don't work u shouldn't get a penny ,
when i was a kid it was hard and i'm only 28 until i was 12 i had to wear my oldder brothers hand me downs but it was like that for most the kids on my estate , it was then i started to work for what i have now
I only had kids when i knew i could afford em
We can all moan about this but the goverment , Labour , conservative etc will not do anything about this so we have to put up with it
Another rant - my older brother has Brain damge and my mother tried recently for mobility but they refused saying he was still mobile on his own , yet a chap next door his wife has been diagnosed with M.E (only 20% in UK believe in it ) it last for 3 yrs max She gets fookin mobility
13 April 2010, 11:07 PM
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'If the government wants to give me money, I'm happy to take it."
And that there is the problem.
IMHO child benefit in the form of money paid directly into parents' bank accounts (as it currently is) needs to be replaced with some sort alternative non monetary form of support whereby only the children can benefit from the support ie voucher schemes whereby the vouchers can only be exchanged for essentials that kids really need ie clothes, shoes, food etc.
And that there is the problem.
IMHO child benefit in the form of money paid directly into parents' bank accounts (as it currently is) needs to be replaced with some sort alternative non monetary form of support whereby only the children can benefit from the support ie voucher schemes whereby the vouchers can only be exchanged for essentials that kids really need ie clothes, shoes, food etc.
13 April 2010, 11:56 PM
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Something has to happen. Social security costs are already this country's greatest expense. Total income tax revenue is less than we spend on social security (I think I am right in saying that).
We HAVE to do something. As all of her kids are growing up learning that the best way to live life is to do **** all. If each one of those kids goes on to have 8 children working the system the same way it will not take many years before there is such an explosion of benefit sponges that there literally will not be enough money in the pot to pay them.
We HAVE to do something. As all of her kids are growing up learning that the best way to live life is to do **** all. If each one of those kids goes on to have 8 children working the system the same way it will not take many years before there is such an explosion of benefit sponges that there literally will not be enough money in the pot to pay them.
She admits, she wants more for her kids and will have more kids to get it. eh!!!!!!! How does that work.
This Country, hammers us for tax, so we are worse off, so it can give to those who do nowt and are better off. Something is seriously wrong there
You are spot on that they are giving away more than they are taking in. What does that mean, we, the workers are in for a hammering, again
14 April 2010, 12:42 AM
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What is alarming to me isn't that this country is supporting folk like this (wha do you do when the damage has already happened), but that it seems to encourage it.
The whole system needs changing. We need a system that supports people when they really need it, not a system that makes people better off breeding like rabbits/not doing an honest days graft.
It's like a very close to home situation, and it pisses me off massively. We both work hard, but in low paid jobs but we do our best to get by, not entitled to a penny. A neighbour, she has the same condition as me and doesn't work because of it (claims for that I believe), her other half doesn't work because of a 'bad back'. They are obviously supported for being out of work for said problems. They also have three kids with another one on the way, so another excuse not to work for some time. Oh and to add, possibly not relevant, they have a dog and two parrotts, and some tropical fish.
Now it doesn't bother me that we aren't eligible for any help, it bothers me that we struggle to get by working hard to partially support what is happening under our noses. I can work with my condition, she can't. My dad works with a serious neck and back disability, yet he can't. We don't (myself and Micky, not my dad) have kids partly as we don't want them, but partly as we couldn't afford it. We don't have pets (although I'd love a dog) again as we can't afford it.
There is something seriously wrong, when some people make sacrifices in life while other people simply take the **** and live easily taking off us that work hard.
The whole system needs changing. We need a system that supports people when they really need it, not a system that makes people better off breeding like rabbits/not doing an honest days graft.
It's like a very close to home situation, and it pisses me off massively. We both work hard, but in low paid jobs but we do our best to get by, not entitled to a penny. A neighbour, she has the same condition as me and doesn't work because of it (claims for that I believe), her other half doesn't work because of a 'bad back'. They are obviously supported for being out of work for said problems. They also have three kids with another one on the way, so another excuse not to work for some time. Oh and to add, possibly not relevant, they have a dog and two parrotts, and some tropical fish.
Now it doesn't bother me that we aren't eligible for any help, it bothers me that we struggle to get by working hard to partially support what is happening under our noses. I can work with my condition, she can't. My dad works with a serious neck and back disability, yet he can't. We don't (myself and Micky, not my dad) have kids partly as we don't want them, but partly as we couldn't afford it. We don't have pets (although I'd love a dog) again as we can't afford it.
There is something seriously wrong, when some people make sacrifices in life while other people simply take the **** and live easily taking off us that work hard.
14 April 2010, 02:13 AM
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I see this kind of thing all of the time. Mother's with children by different father's. The record I've seen so far is 4 kids in the same house all with different surnames.
I've seen places where the carpet is worn, the decorations are atrocious, such as wall paper hanging off, an overwhelming smell of ****, large dogs i.e. Neapolitan mastiffs roaming the place, clothes are just dumped on the floor.
Last Saturday night, I was out looking for a 15 year old girl who was reported missing. I found her under her boyfriend's bed. Whilst organising where she would be going to stay, the sister of the boyfriend, between chain-smoking 6 ****, whilst heavily pregnant, was telling the 15 year old that it's not worth her working and she will have two more kids, so she will not need to ever have to work. It'd be interesting to know what she plans on doing with the benefits - she certainly won't be spending it on cleaning products!
Something has to be done. These people can't help themselves and rely on the tax-payer to fund their life "style" and seem to think that they can call us, 24 hours per day, to act as their personal social workers/Jeremy Kyle/body guards/taxi service. Scum breeds scum.
I've seen places where the carpet is worn, the decorations are atrocious, such as wall paper hanging off, an overwhelming smell of ****, large dogs i.e. Neapolitan mastiffs roaming the place, clothes are just dumped on the floor.
Last Saturday night, I was out looking for a 15 year old girl who was reported missing. I found her under her boyfriend's bed. Whilst organising where she would be going to stay, the sister of the boyfriend, between chain-smoking 6 ****, whilst heavily pregnant, was telling the 15 year old that it's not worth her working and she will have two more kids, so she will not need to ever have to work.
It'd be interesting to know what she plans on doing with the benefits - she certainly won't be spending it on cleaning products!Something has to be done. These people can't help themselves and rely on the tax-payer to fund their life "style" and seem to think that they can call us, 24 hours per day, to act as their personal social workers/Jeremy Kyle/body guards/taxi service. Scum breeds scum.
14 April 2010, 09:47 AM
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14 April 2010, 10:32 AM
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And this is the massive issue...
The only way not working actually is effective is if you have lots of kids, who in turn have lots more. Its not just a case of 2 kids each having two themselves meaning we have to look after 4, then 8, then 16
Its more like 10 each having another 10, meaning we have to look after 100, 1000, 10000.
The rate of increase is just incredible. Whole country really will go **** up if its not changed.
The only way not working actually is effective is if you have lots of kids, who in turn have lots more. Its not just a case of 2 kids each having two themselves meaning we have to look after 4, then 8, then 16
Its more like 10 each having another 10, meaning we have to look after 100, 1000, 10000.
The rate of increase is just incredible. Whole country really will go **** up if its not changed.
14 April 2010, 10:42 AM
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Hardly news though is it - not meant at KOT, meant at Daily Fail.
I get to see how "the other half" live in the extended family of my wifes. Benefit is a right not a privilege. A house is expected, not strived for. A child is paid for, not postponed until it is afforded - or stopped because you haven't got the room or the money to pay for it C*nts!
The problem is - what do you do other than pay for them? You can't stop people having children. The Daily Mail is sh*te in that on the one hand it will say the government is failing those children in poverty yet point out the outrage that said children are not in poverty? Its a catch 22.
As always, my mantra rings true - if you have nothing, the state provides, if you have anything, the state will take away.
It isn't fair but its never going to change.
I get to see how "the other half" live in the extended family of my wifes. Benefit is a right not a privilege. A house is expected, not strived for. A child is paid for, not postponed until it is afforded - or stopped because you haven't got the room or the money to pay for it
C*nts! The problem is - what do you do other than pay for them? You can't stop people having children. The Daily Mail is sh*te in that on the one hand it will say the government is failing those children in poverty yet point out the outrage that said children are not in poverty? Its a catch 22.
As always, my mantra rings true - if you have nothing, the state provides, if you have anything, the state will take away.
It isn't fair but its never going to change.
What you are saying is wrong because in a proper society people should be prepared to act in a responsible fashion, work on their own account, and pay their taxes correctly.
Taking advantage of the system as this family is doing is morally wrong and they are in effect stealing money from the people.
It is no good throwing up your hands and saying that it can't be helped, so we should all put up with it an give them far more cash than most of the rest of us earn, that is a cop out and the system should be modified to ensure that people like this are not only forced to earn their own living but that they modify their own life style to something that they can afford.
Of course there should be a safety net for those in real need, but that should be carefully administered and given only to those who are unable to do better for themselves for very good reasons.
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14 April 2010, 11:04 AM
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Indeed, brave man with no standards
And they're all gingers!
Its comments/opinions like this that really **** me off
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14 April 2010, 12:57 PM
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Lets just hope that if the Tories get into power, they can shake up the Benefit system to stop this type of thing happening again. Also to stop immigrants coming over here and sponging the system too.
Sadly, I doubt they will.
TBH, this woman will keep having kids till she can't pop them out any longer. As her children grow up she won't be able to claim for them. Have more, and the money keeps coming.
Sadly, I doubt they will.
TBH, this woman will keep having kids till she can't pop them out any longer. As her children grow up she won't be able to claim for them. Have more, and the money keeps coming.
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14 April 2010, 01:58 PM
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It is impossible not to give them a free house etc. One chav claimed Sky TV was a right!
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14 April 2010, 03:19 PM
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Child benefit should stop after the second child in my opinion. Also there is no incentive to get even part time work as you will lose benefits. There should be a scheme to make up the difference - if you get a job and it pays less than you can earn on benefits the government makes up the difference. Everyone is a winner! People like this are vile mind you. David Attenburger sees the main problem facing the planet is overpopulation and it is idiots like this doing lots of breeding.
14 April 2010, 06:19 PM
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I wonder what will happen to these people when their kids get to 18?
If you have your last kid at say 40, then at 58 your money stops?
What happens then?
No doubt there is some kind of bonus scheme.....
If you have your last kid at say 40, then at 58 your money stops?
What happens then?
No doubt there is some kind of bonus scheme.....
14 April 2010, 07:03 PM
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After all, all the time you are on benefits you are getting your stamp paid towards your pension. Oh the system we have...its just fecking nuts.
14 April 2010, 08:42 PM
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14 April 2010, 08:54 PM
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Sorry to be blunt, sow up her fanny now, and stop their benefits, and make the lazy git get back to work!!!!
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14 April 2010, 09:49 PM
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I know we are wittering on here about this, but we really do have to do something. I know, I for one will be talking about this to whomever knocks on my door canverseing (sp sodding speel check cannot even help me on that! ).
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14 April 2010, 10:03 PM
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Nothing will be done, it costs too much to gain so little in return .......
That's why cheats get away with it, when caught they are asked to stop claiming - which they do. End of .... no point spending £1,000 chasing £1 in cheated benefits.
It stinks, I know, but nowt will change .... or it would of by now.
That's why cheats get away with it, when caught they are asked to stop claiming - which they do. End of .... no point spending £1,000 chasing £1 in cheated benefits.
It stinks, I know, but nowt will change .... or it would of by now.