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22 April 2010, 04:59 PM
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When I was growing up, you could leave you pushbike on the front lawn overnight, get up the next morning and it'd be still there.
These days, you leave anything laying around for 5 minutes, and it'll get knicked.
These days, you leave anything laying around for 5 minutes, and it'll get knicked.
22 April 2010, 05:11 PM
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We had some local yoofs trying to smash the cctv cameras off our building with bricks, people identified with recorded footage but as they had only managed to dent the cameras not "damage" them it was not a crime and they would not issue a crime reference number.
If this sort of rule applies, other anti social things like yoofs banging on your windows in the middle of the night throwing eggs at your house generally making your life hell its probably not a "crime" for statistics either.
If this sort of rule applies, other anti social things like yoofs banging on your windows in the middle of the night throwing eggs at your house generally making your life hell its probably not a "crime" for statistics either.
22 April 2010, 05:13 PM
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We had some local yoofs trying to smash the cctv cameras off our building with bricks, people identified with recorded footage but as they had only managed to dent the cameras not "damage" them it was not a crime and they would not issue a crime reference number.
If this sort of rule applies, other anti social things like yoofs banging on your windows in the middle of the night throwing eggs at your house generally making your life hell its probably not a "crime" for statistics either.
If this sort of rule applies, other anti social things like yoofs banging on your windows in the middle of the night throwing eggs at your house generally making your life hell its probably not a "crime" for statistics either.
22 April 2010, 06:31 PM
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Try 50 for starters .................................................. .......................
1. Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s
2. Low mortgage rates
3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.35
4. Record police numbers in England, Scotland and Wales
5. Cut overall crime by 35 per cent
6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools
7. Best-ever primary school results
8. Funding for every pupil in England to double by 2008
9. Employment is at its highest level ever
10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries
11. 85,000 more nurses
12. 32,000 more doctors
13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards
14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament
15. Devolved power to Welsh Assembly
16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time
17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice
18. Gift aid was worth £625 million to charities last year
19. Restored city-wide government to London
20. Record number of students in higher education
21. Child benefit up 25 per cent since 1997
22. Created Sure Start to help children from low income households
23. Introduced the Disability Rights Commission
24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & extra £100 for over-80s
25. On course to exceed the Kyoto target to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 2010
26. Negotiated the historic Good Friday Agreement in Northern Ireland
27. Over 30,000 more teachers in England schools
28. All workers now have a right to 4 weeks’ paid holiday
29. A million pensioners lifted out of relative poverty
30. 800,000 children lifted out of relative poverty
31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents
32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships
33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard
34. Free school milk for five, six and seven-year-olds in Wales
35. Banned fox hunting
36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since the industrial revolution
37. Free TV licences for over-75s
38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals
39. Waiting times for operations halved
40. Free local bus travel for over-60s
41. New Deal - helped over a million people into work
42. Over 1.5 million child trust funds have been started
43. Free eye test for over 60s
44. Five, six and seven year olds in class sizes of 30 or less
45. Free entry to national museums and galleries
46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled
47. Cancer death rates down by 12 per cent, saving 43,000 lives
48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent
49. Free nursery places for three and four-year-olds in England, Scotland and Wales
50. Free fruit for all four to six-year-olds at school
1. Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s
2. Low mortgage rates
3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.35
4. Record police numbers in England, Scotland and Wales
5. Cut overall crime by 35 per cent
6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools
7. Best-ever primary school results
8. Funding for every pupil in England to double by 2008
9. Employment is at its highest level ever
10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries
11. 85,000 more nurses
12. 32,000 more doctors
13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards
14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament
15. Devolved power to Welsh Assembly
16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time
17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice
18. Gift aid was worth £625 million to charities last year
19. Restored city-wide government to London
20. Record number of students in higher education
21. Child benefit up 25 per cent since 1997
22. Created Sure Start to help children from low income households
23. Introduced the Disability Rights Commission
24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & extra £100 for over-80s
25. On course to exceed the Kyoto target to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 2010
26. Negotiated the historic Good Friday Agreement in Northern Ireland
27. Over 30,000 more teachers in England schools
28. All workers now have a right to 4 weeks’ paid holiday
29. A million pensioners lifted out of relative poverty
30. 800,000 children lifted out of relative poverty
31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents
32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships
33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard
34. Free school milk for five, six and seven-year-olds in Wales
35. Banned fox hunting
36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since the industrial revolution
37. Free TV licences for over-75s
38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals
39. Waiting times for operations halved
40. Free local bus travel for over-60s
41. New Deal - helped over a million people into work
42. Over 1.5 million child trust funds have been started
43. Free eye test for over 60s
44. Five, six and seven year olds in class sizes of 30 or less
45. Free entry to national museums and galleries
46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled
47. Cancer death rates down by 12 per cent, saving 43,000 lives
48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent
49. Free nursery places for three and four-year-olds in England, Scotland and Wales
50. Free fruit for all four to six-year-olds at school
Look into a lot of those and you'll realise they are actually blatant lies just like Brown lying to the war enquiry and the advertising standards agency forcing him to take down bill boards claiming police spent 80% of time on the streets
22 April 2010, 08:18 PM
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It's much better now than in 1997 at the end of the disaster which was the Tories .... a blind man on a galloping horse can see that!!
Anyway ... tonight we shall witness the final nail in Camerons posh coffin!
Then it's a straight 2 way fight between NL and LibDems ......
Anyway ... tonight we shall witness the final nail in Camerons posh coffin!
Then it's a straight 2 way fight between NL and LibDems ......
22 April 2010, 08:39 PM
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If you really want change then Tories are your only answer, as Liberals will gang up with Labour and we`ll have the same crap for another 5 years. And we`ll have no Trident, no armed forces, a EU Army we HAVE to support and pay for, we`ll be a third class country in a first class world. Taking the UK so far down the toilet even Toilet Duck would have a hard time getting to us!!
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22 April 2010, 08:42 PM
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Fair summary there I guess.
I dont think Cameron is dying out there, but he does not stand out for any reason in particular.
Would not be suprised if they give this one to Clegg as well. I liked the way he hushed Brown
I dont think Cameron is dying out there, but he does not stand out for any reason in particular.
Would not be suprised if they give this one to Clegg as well. I liked the way he hushed Brown
22 April 2010, 11:27 PM
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Cameron and the Tories are dead in the water.
Massive swing for the LibDems ....
Lib Lab pact like in the 70's .... won't be bad, just different - and at least the Tories are kept out - so, we all win in the end!!
Massive swing for the LibDems ....
Lib Lab pact like in the 70's .... won't be bad, just different - and at least the Tories are kept out - so, we all win in the end!!
22 April 2010, 11:39 PM
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If you really want change then Tories are your only answer, as Liberals will gang up with Labour and we`ll have the same crap for another 5 years. And we`ll have no Trident, no armed forces, a EU Army we HAVE to support and pay for, we`ll be a third class country in a first class world. Taking the UK so far down the toilet even Toilet Duck would have a hard time getting to us!!
I stick to my previous post.
23 April 2010, 11:09 AM
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1. Competitiveness. Britain has dropped from fourth to thirteenth in the international competitiveness league under Labour.
2. Reading and Writing. Almost half of all 11 year-olds cannot read, write and add up properly when they leave primary school.
3. GCSEs. Nearly 23,000 children left school last year without a single GCSE.
4. NHS Deficits. The NHS in England is this year forecasting a gross deficit of £883 million.
5. Waiting Lists. Almost one million people in the UK are still waiting for treatment on the NHS.
6. Threat to Staff Numbers. Since February 2006, over 18,000 job losses have been announced by NHS Trusts in England
7. Growth Rate. Britain’s growth rate in 2005 was 1.9 per cent, the lowest for 13 years.
8. Inheritance Tax. The number of households paying inheritance tax has doubled under Labour.
9. Carbon Emissions Rising. Carbon emissions have risen for the second year in a row - emissions have risen for five of the past eight years.
10. Violent crime has more than doubled under Labour - over 1.2 million violent crimes were committed in 2005-6.
11. Gun crime has doubled under Labour.
12. Robbery has gone up by 47 per cent under Labour
13. Unemployment. There are 957,000 people out of work and claiming benefit, the highest level since 2001.
14. Child Support Agency. The backlog of cases at the CSA amounts to over 273,600 and £3.5 billion of debt remains uncollected.
15. Business Tax. The CBI estimates British businesses have been hit by a massive £50 billion increase in tax under Labour.
16. Stamp Duty. Under Labour revenue from stamp duty has quadrupled to over £10 billion.
17. Government debt has soared under Labour - it now equals 36.6 per cent of GDP, a seven-year high.
18. Council Tax. Typical pensioner couples have seen more than a third of the increase in the basic state pension snatched back in higher council tax
19. Tax credits. Of the 6.5 million recipients - 2 million have been overpaid and over 900,000 are underpaid.
20. The Pension Credit is so complicated and unpopular that up to 1.6 million pensioners are not claiming the Pension Credit they are entitled to.
21. Manufacturing jobs. Since the second quarter of 1997, over 1.1 million manufacturing jobs have been lost.
22. Administrators in the NHS. The number of NHS managers is increasing three times as fast as the number of new doctors and nurses.
23. Child poverty. Over half of children in inner London live below the poverty line.
24. Benefit Take-up. Between 23 and 30 per cent of eligible people are not claiming the benefits that they are entitled to.
25. Young People. Over 1.2 million young people are not in work or full-time education - higher than when Labour came to power.
26. Pensioner Poverty. Two million pensioners still live in poverty.
27. Rising unemployment. Unemployment now stands at over 1.6 million and is at its highest level since January 2000.
28. Economic Inactivity. In a survey of 23 countries surveyed by the OECD, the UK had the highest percentage of economically inactive men between 25 and 49.
29. Incapacity Benefits. 2.7 million people of working age are claiming incapacity benefits.
30. Rise in Long-Term Benefit Claims. The number of people receiving incapacity benefit for five years or more is now twenty times as large as it was when Labour came to power.
31. Benefit Fraud. At least £2.6 billion of taxpayers’ money disappeared in 2004-05 in benefit fraud and error.
32. Underpaid benefits. £243 million in income support, Jobseeker’s Allowance and Pension Credit was underpaid in 2004-5.
33. Pensions Tax. Labour’s pensions tax introduced by Gordon Brown in 1997 has cost pension funds £5 billion a year.
34. Savings. The Turner Commission estimates that over 9 million people are not saving enough for retirement.
35. School results for low-income families. Three-quarters of 16-year-olds from low-income families in England and Wales failed to get five 'good' passes at grades A to C, which was double the rate for other students.
36. Savings. The household savings ratio has almost halved under Labour to 6 per cent.
37. Temporary Accommodation. The number of households in England living in temporary accommodation has risen by 139 per cent since 1997.
38. Failing Schools. Nearly a million children (980,000) are estimated to be at poorly performing schools, according to the National Audit Office - 13 per cent of the school population.
39. Truancy. Over a million children play truant every year.
40. Assaults. There is an assault on a teacher every seven minutes, according to teacher unions.
41. Home Office Bureaucrats. The Home Office has taken on 20,700 more bureaucrats – but only around 14,200 additional police officers since 1997
42. Asylum Removals. Only one in four failed asylum seekers is ever removed – a lower proportion than in 1997.
43. Special Schools. More than 100 state special schools have closed since Labour came to power.
44. Qualifications. Over one third of adults in the UK do not have any basic school-leaving qualification - double the proportion in Canada and Germany.
45. Waiting Times. Almost 45,000 people are currently waiting over one year for basic diagnostic tests, such as MRI and CT scans, and hearing tests.
46. Hospitals - Slower Improvements. 1.4 million more people would be getting hospital treatment if Labour had kept up the rate of increase in completed hospital treatments achieved by the NHS under the Conservatives
47. Dentists. 10,000 dentists have left the NHS since Labour came to power.
48. MRSA. The number of people who have died from the hospital superbug MRSA has more than doubled since 1997, despite Labour’s 23 ‘initiatives’ to tackle the problem
49. Productivity in the NHS has fallen by up to 1.3 per cent in each year since 1997 despite record increases in spending.
50. Productivity. Under Labour, Britain’s productivity-per-worker growth rate slowed from 2.6 per cent a year in 1992-7 to just 1.2 per cent a year in 2001-5.
2. Reading and Writing. Almost half of all 11 year-olds cannot read, write and add up properly when they leave primary school.
3. GCSEs. Nearly 23,000 children left school last year without a single GCSE.
4. NHS Deficits. The NHS in England is this year forecasting a gross deficit of £883 million.
5. Waiting Lists. Almost one million people in the UK are still waiting for treatment on the NHS.
6. Threat to Staff Numbers. Since February 2006, over 18,000 job losses have been announced by NHS Trusts in England
7. Growth Rate. Britain’s growth rate in 2005 was 1.9 per cent, the lowest for 13 years.
8. Inheritance Tax. The number of households paying inheritance tax has doubled under Labour.
9. Carbon Emissions Rising. Carbon emissions have risen for the second year in a row - emissions have risen for five of the past eight years.
10. Violent crime has more than doubled under Labour - over 1.2 million violent crimes were committed in 2005-6.
11. Gun crime has doubled under Labour.
12. Robbery has gone up by 47 per cent under Labour
13. Unemployment. There are 957,000 people out of work and claiming benefit, the highest level since 2001.
14. Child Support Agency. The backlog of cases at the CSA amounts to over 273,600 and £3.5 billion of debt remains uncollected.
15. Business Tax. The CBI estimates British businesses have been hit by a massive £50 billion increase in tax under Labour.
16. Stamp Duty. Under Labour revenue from stamp duty has quadrupled to over £10 billion.
17. Government debt has soared under Labour - it now equals 36.6 per cent of GDP, a seven-year high.
18. Council Tax. Typical pensioner couples have seen more than a third of the increase in the basic state pension snatched back in higher council tax
19. Tax credits. Of the 6.5 million recipients - 2 million have been overpaid and over 900,000 are underpaid.
20. The Pension Credit is so complicated and unpopular that up to 1.6 million pensioners are not claiming the Pension Credit they are entitled to.
21. Manufacturing jobs. Since the second quarter of 1997, over 1.1 million manufacturing jobs have been lost.
22. Administrators in the NHS. The number of NHS managers is increasing three times as fast as the number of new doctors and nurses.
23. Child poverty. Over half of children in inner London live below the poverty line.
24. Benefit Take-up. Between 23 and 30 per cent of eligible people are not claiming the benefits that they are entitled to.
25. Young People. Over 1.2 million young people are not in work or full-time education - higher than when Labour came to power.
26. Pensioner Poverty. Two million pensioners still live in poverty.
27. Rising unemployment. Unemployment now stands at over 1.6 million and is at its highest level since January 2000.
28. Economic Inactivity. In a survey of 23 countries surveyed by the OECD, the UK had the highest percentage of economically inactive men between 25 and 49.
29. Incapacity Benefits. 2.7 million people of working age are claiming incapacity benefits.
30. Rise in Long-Term Benefit Claims. The number of people receiving incapacity benefit for five years or more is now twenty times as large as it was when Labour came to power.
31. Benefit Fraud. At least £2.6 billion of taxpayers’ money disappeared in 2004-05 in benefit fraud and error.
32. Underpaid benefits. £243 million in income support, Jobseeker’s Allowance and Pension Credit was underpaid in 2004-5.
33. Pensions Tax. Labour’s pensions tax introduced by Gordon Brown in 1997 has cost pension funds £5 billion a year.
34. Savings. The Turner Commission estimates that over 9 million people are not saving enough for retirement.
35. School results for low-income families. Three-quarters of 16-year-olds from low-income families in England and Wales failed to get five 'good' passes at grades A to C, which was double the rate for other students.
36. Savings. The household savings ratio has almost halved under Labour to 6 per cent.
37. Temporary Accommodation. The number of households in England living in temporary accommodation has risen by 139 per cent since 1997.
38. Failing Schools. Nearly a million children (980,000) are estimated to be at poorly performing schools, according to the National Audit Office - 13 per cent of the school population.
39. Truancy. Over a million children play truant every year.
40. Assaults. There is an assault on a teacher every seven minutes, according to teacher unions.
41. Home Office Bureaucrats. The Home Office has taken on 20,700 more bureaucrats – but only around 14,200 additional police officers since 1997
42. Asylum Removals. Only one in four failed asylum seekers is ever removed – a lower proportion than in 1997.
43. Special Schools. More than 100 state special schools have closed since Labour came to power.
44. Qualifications. Over one third of adults in the UK do not have any basic school-leaving qualification - double the proportion in Canada and Germany.
45. Waiting Times. Almost 45,000 people are currently waiting over one year for basic diagnostic tests, such as MRI and CT scans, and hearing tests.
46. Hospitals - Slower Improvements. 1.4 million more people would be getting hospital treatment if Labour had kept up the rate of increase in completed hospital treatments achieved by the NHS under the Conservatives
47. Dentists. 10,000 dentists have left the NHS since Labour came to power.
48. MRSA. The number of people who have died from the hospital superbug MRSA has more than doubled since 1997, despite Labour’s 23 ‘initiatives’ to tackle the problem
49. Productivity in the NHS has fallen by up to 1.3 per cent in each year since 1997 despite record increases in spending.
50. Productivity. Under Labour, Britain’s productivity-per-worker growth rate slowed from 2.6 per cent a year in 1992-7 to just 1.2 per cent a year in 2001-5.
23 April 2010, 11:35 AM
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1) Join the euro
2) Amnesty to an unknown number of illegal immigrants
3) Scrap our nukes
4) Increase taxes
I won't even go into the expenses dead Clegg claimed for biscuit tins
Only David Cameron and the Tories can save us from oblivion, in the end when it comes to putting the X on the ballot paper it will go blue
23 April 2010, 03:30 PM
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23 April 2010, 10:54 PM
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I'm voting with my feet...
The role was there, the relocation package was there, I was there. Well, I was up until last Thursday when Mrs SJ said she wouldn't relocate to sunnier climes with me
I guess I had better tune in and see who I ought to vote for.
The role was there, the relocation package was there, I was there. Well, I was up until last Thursday when Mrs SJ said she wouldn't relocate to sunnier climes with me
I guess I had better tune in and see who I ought to vote for.
23 April 2010, 11:49 PM
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These pages are full of people who 'were going to leave the terrible UK' ... but didn't actually get past their keyboard!!
Wasn't UncleBuck going to leave the UK in disgust about 6 years ago?
I've always been proud to live in this great nation
Wasn't UncleBuck going to leave the UK in disgust about 6 years ago?
I've always been proud to live in this great nation
24 April 2010, 12:13 AM
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LMAO - i do believe you are a Tory boy at heart!
As for your Trident comment - i know where i would love to shove a trident
