It just doesn't add up anymore, does it?
26 April 2010, 07:07 AM
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The saloon is definitely coming in the STi but I'm not sure about the WRX.
My MY00 has 65k on the clock and I reckon I'll be keeping it for at least another 2-3 years. A car would have to be really special to warrant that road tax - the Impreza isn't there anymore.
My MY00 has 65k on the clock and I reckon I'll be keeping it for at least another 2-3 years. A car would have to be really special to warrant that road tax - the Impreza isn't there anymore.
26 April 2010, 08:52 AM
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I've been doing some research on the Mazda6 2.2D Sport ... thinking that's where I may jump. Turns out that the Mazda Diesel engines have big issues ... something to do with a Diesel Purge Filter or something? The oil level rises in the sump somehow and damages the engine and CATs at big expense - is there any new car free of faults? 
26 April 2010, 09:56 AM
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Your totally right , its just doesn't add up at all
, road tax, fuel, cost to the enviroment.............do the right thing sell your scoob and make your return to scoobynet short lived and give us some peace from your dumb *** threads
, road tax, fuel, cost to the enviroment.............do the right thing sell your scoob and make your return to scoobynet short lived and give us some peace from your dumb *** threads
26 April 2010, 11:56 AM
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What does not add up is all these people who are like MPG this, depreciation that,running costs something else etc etc.
The Impreza was NEVER a "sensible" car, not 2 years ago, not 5 years ago.
We on Scoobynet are generally motoring enthusiasts and that means that such points as those above are ignored in favour of the pleasure we get from driving a high performance car either Scooby or something else.
Sure the latest diesel what not is quite nippy etc, and I'm sure it's cheaper to run, however, referance the point above I and many others on this forum do not care.
At some point when the tax guru's have thier way i will no longer be able to afford to run the car, then likely i will start moaning and saying that other cars are better anyway.
So, being devils advocate my point is this, the Impreza is STILL a desirable car, it's just that fewer and fewer can either afford to run them, or can justify it to themselves (which a lot of people seem to have to do).
The trade doesn't want them because of the small numbers in the market to buy them, not beacause they are not very good cars and everyone has grown up and are no longer interested in performance motoring.
Sorry for the long post, I had a great drive yesterday, cost me a fortune in fuel, but i had pleasure, i hope that continues, if growing up means i'm driving a diesel, then i don't want to grow up. It's unlikely anyway, nearly 40 now.
The Impreza was NEVER a "sensible" car, not 2 years ago, not 5 years ago.
We on Scoobynet are generally motoring enthusiasts and that means that such points as those above are ignored in favour of the pleasure we get from driving a high performance car either Scooby or something else.
Sure the latest diesel what not is quite nippy etc, and I'm sure it's cheaper to run, however, referance the point above I and many others on this forum do not care.
At some point when the tax guru's have thier way i will no longer be able to afford to run the car, then likely i will start moaning and saying that other cars are better anyway.
So, being devils advocate my point is this, the Impreza is STILL a desirable car, it's just that fewer and fewer can either afford to run them, or can justify it to themselves (which a lot of people seem to have to do).
The trade doesn't want them because of the small numbers in the market to buy them, not beacause they are not very good cars and everyone has grown up and are no longer interested in performance motoring.
Sorry for the long post, I had a great drive yesterday, cost me a fortune in fuel, but i had pleasure, i hope that continues, if growing up means i'm driving a diesel, then i don't want to grow up. It's unlikely anyway, nearly 40 now.
26 April 2010, 01:39 PM
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Point taken .... but, the harsh reality is that the Civic 140BHP Diesel I took out yesterday gave me, very nearly, just as much fun as my Impreza .... which shocked me!!
More shocking is that it does it and returns 55mpg, it does it with a Road Tax bill of £100, it does it with 'extras' which Subaru owners can only drool about .... it's a sad, sad, day when a Diesel Civic can make more sense to a petrolhead than an Impreza Turbo - but, that day has arrived ...
I am desperately clinging to the thought I can justify the extra costs of a Subaru ... but, we know the Road Tax will just increase massively in the next year or two - I fully expect it to be £900 in 2 years time
More shocking is that it does it and returns 55mpg, it does it with a Road Tax bill of £100, it does it with 'extras' which Subaru owners can only drool about .... it's a sad, sad, day when a Diesel Civic can make more sense to a petrolhead than an Impreza Turbo - but, that day has arrived ...
I am desperately clinging to the thought I can justify the extra costs of a Subaru ... but, we know the Road Tax will just increase massively in the next year or two - I fully expect it to be £900 in 2 years time
26 April 2010, 02:20 PM
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Pete, are you totally sure that there is not something else going on?
I mean, you go out in a sparkly new car, it feels nippy, you like the interior or features, no squeaks or rattles and smells nice would that feeling last though?
Is there not an element of novelty when one takes out a new car which your old faithful which you know inside out can never compete with?
I've had a lot of fun in a 1L Micra hire car, doesn't mean i'm going to buy one.
If you genuinely prefer the Civic, then of course it's your choice, but i doubt you will convince many Scooby drivers.
I mean, you go out in a sparkly new car, it feels nippy, you like the interior or features, no squeaks or rattles and smells nice would that feeling last though?
Is there not an element of novelty when one takes out a new car which your old faithful which you know inside out can never compete with?
I've had a lot of fun in a 1L Micra hire car, doesn't mean i'm going to buy one.
If you genuinely prefer the Civic, then of course it's your choice, but i doubt you will convince many Scooby drivers.
26 April 2010, 04:06 PM
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It's easy to forget that the Impreza was launched as competition for the Civic and Corolla.
I'm pretty sure this is a Subaru site, not just a people who want to modify (and fix
) Imprezas site. Many just want a well engineered performance version of a practical car rather than a ***** out rally clone. The frustration with Subaru is the lack of choice when it comes to model selection and the fact that the engines are 10 years behind the times in terms of efficiency. All BMW 3s produce less than 225g/km of CO2 - a lot less. Even the 300+ hp n/a 3 litre six produces only 202g/km.
Why does a 2.5 turbo producing only 225hp knock out 246g/km. If there were any truth in the suggestion that the WRX is going to be dropped it would be because anyone prepared to pay £400+ for road tax is going to want more performance than the WRX can offer. Unless they can reduce the CO2 output of the WRX to below 225g/km, even those who prefer it to the STi are going to think twice before buying.
I'm pretty sure this is a Subaru site, not just a people who want to modify (and fix
) Imprezas site. Many just want a well engineered performance version of a practical car rather than a ***** out rally clone. The frustration with Subaru is the lack of choice when it comes to model selection and the fact that the engines are 10 years behind the times in terms of efficiency. All BMW 3s produce less than 225g/km of CO2 - a lot less. Even the 300+ hp n/a 3 litre six produces only 202g/km.Why does a 2.5 turbo producing only 225hp knock out 246g/km. If there were any truth in the suggestion that the WRX is going to be dropped it would be because anyone prepared to pay £400+ for road tax is going to want more performance than the WRX can offer. Unless they can reduce the CO2 output of the WRX to below 225g/km, even those who prefer it to the STi are going to think twice before buying.
26 April 2010, 04:12 PM
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my 5 series 3.0 twin turbo only produces 211g/cm so cheap tax,cheap running costs,better built,quicker in a lot of circumstances 
after 11 years of impreza ownership its a no brainer
after 11 years of impreza ownership its a no brainer
26 April 2010, 07:22 PM
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Pete, are you totally sure that there is not something else going on?
I mean, you go out in a sparkly new car, it feels nippy, you like the interior or features, no squeaks or rattles and smells nice would that feeling last though?
Is there not an element of novelty when one takes out a new car which your old faithful which you know inside out can never compete with?
I've had a lot of fun in a 1L Micra hire car, doesn't mean i'm going to buy one.
If you genuinely prefer the Civic, then of course it's your choice, but i doubt you will convince many Scooby drivers.
I mean, you go out in a sparkly new car, it feels nippy, you like the interior or features, no squeaks or rattles and smells nice would that feeling last though?
Is there not an element of novelty when one takes out a new car which your old faithful which you know inside out can never compete with?
I've had a lot of fun in a 1L Micra hire car, doesn't mean i'm going to buy one.
If you genuinely prefer the Civic, then of course it's your choice, but i doubt you will convince many Scooby drivers.
I took out the Type R Civic before the Diesel Civic and, personally, wasn't taken by it - who the hell wants to rev the nuts off a car to get it to go? Heck, I rarely go over 3000 RPM in my Impreza! No need to and I don't want to scream an engine at 9000 RPM!!
The Diesel Civic, however, was a different animal - I really, really enjoyed driving it ... nothing to do with toys or new car smell at all - just pure driving pleasure.
Align that pleasure with really sensible costs and you have something which, to me, is pretty much unbeatable ..... 55 mpg ..... £100 Road Tax ...... cheap Insurance I would imagine? Reliability built in (like a Subaru).
I don't want to, but I think I'm going to have to say bye, bye Subaru ..... of course, keeping my old girl is the cheapest option of all ..... but time marches on, we all get old and start creaking.
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10 August 2010, 06:29 PM
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Been wandering around AutoTrader ... I see that there are Impreza WRX HatchBacks for £10,000 ... a bit of haggling and they could be had for £9250. That's a 57 Plate with 20,000 miles.
Reading today about the £6 a Gallon about to materialise and the 15% hike in Insurance Premiums .... it just gets worse for the Impreza doesn't it?
I'm enjoying my Honda Civic Diesel and its 55 mpg ... I'm sure I will enjoy buying my £110 Car Tax in 12 months time and even my Insurance at £200 a year won't worry me too much ... I'm also enjoying the 340Nm of Torque at my disposal
As I said many months ago, and it's getting worse, it just doesn't add up anymore - does it?
Reading today about the £6 a Gallon about to materialise and the 15% hike in Insurance Premiums .... it just gets worse for the Impreza doesn't it?
I'm enjoying my Honda Civic Diesel and its 55 mpg ... I'm sure I will enjoy buying my £110 Car Tax in 12 months time and even my Insurance at £200 a year won't worry me too much ... I'm also enjoying the 340Nm of Torque at my disposal
As I said many months ago, and it's getting worse, it just doesn't add up anymore - does it?
10 August 2010, 09:46 PM
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I'm enjoying my Honda Civic Diesel and its 55 mpg ... I'm sure I will enjoy buying my £110 Car Tax in 12 months time and even my Insurance at £200 a year won't worry me too much ... I'm also enjoying the 340Nm of Torque at my disposal
As I said many months ago, and it's getting worse, it just doesn't add up anymore - does it?
As I said many months ago, and it's getting worse, it just doesn't add up anymore - does it?
With brand new wrx's at 15ish then 9 k prices on 20k 2 year old car is not odd; original wrx list price was what £17,995? Not a big shift?
10 August 2010, 09:51 PM
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Thing is,you cant keep burbling on (see what i did there) about other cars being better etc when they are in such a different league
My missus is high maintenance/expensive but god she looks gurd and pleasures well too,yet i could go for a 40+ lass who would be cheap as cook dinner every night but buck like a deflated blowup and look like boris johnson
each to their own,you cant compare
now if you had bought an Evo 10 and could boast those figures,then touche !
My missus is high maintenance/expensive but god she looks gurd and pleasures well too,yet i could go for a 40+ lass who would be cheap as cook dinner every night but buck like a deflated blowup and look like boris johnson
each to their own,you cant compare
now if you had bought an Evo 10 and could boast those figures,then touche !
10 August 2010, 11:02 PM
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This is now getting monotonous. 
Same old twaddle rehashed if you prefer the Civic to the current Impreza then fair enough but what happened to the wide bodied WRX you were purchasing and banging on about a couple of months ago?
Impreza's have always have and will be expensive cars to insure, fuel and keep on the road.
And by the way your Civic diesel does not appear to be particularly brilliant on the MPG front either, I own a Peugeot 2.0 HDi and quite easily get 60MPG without even trying.
Same old twaddle rehashed if you prefer the Civic to the current Impreza then fair enough but what happened to the wide bodied WRX you were purchasing and banging on about a couple of months ago?
Impreza's have always have and will be expensive cars to insure, fuel and keep on the road.
And by the way your Civic diesel does not appear to be particularly brilliant on the MPG front either, I own a Peugeot 2.0 HDi and quite easily get 60MPG without even trying.
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10 August 2010, 11:18 PM
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This is now getting monotonous.
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11 August 2010, 01:59 AM
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Been wandering around AutoTrader ... I see that there are Impreza WRX HatchBacks for £10,000 ... a bit of haggling and they could be had for £9250. That's a 57 Plate with 20,000 miles.
Reading today about the £6 a Gallon about to materialise and the 15% hike in Insurance Premiums .... it just gets worse for the Impreza doesn't it?
I'm enjoying my Honda Civic Diesel and its 55 mpg ... I'm sure I will enjoy buying my £110 Car Tax in 12 months time and even my Insurance at £200 a year won't worry me too much ... I'm also enjoying the 340Nm of Torque at my disposal
As I said many months ago, and it's getting worse, it just doesn't add up anymore - does it?
Reading today about the £6 a Gallon about to materialise and the 15% hike in Insurance Premiums .... it just gets worse for the Impreza doesn't it?
I'm enjoying my Honda Civic Diesel and its 55 mpg ... I'm sure I will enjoy buying my £110 Car Tax in 12 months time and even my Insurance at £200 a year won't worry me too much ... I'm also enjoying the 340Nm of Torque at my disposal
As I said many months ago, and it's getting worse, it just doesn't add up anymore - does it?
11 August 2010, 05:17 PM
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Bored bored bored! This is a Subaru forum, why do you keep going on about a Honda? People who run Subaru's do so out of choice and are prepared to pay the running costs, normally for the performance and handling that your Honda can only aspire to. You chose a Honda so why not preach on a Honda forum.....or are you still banned?
