General Election Part 2 ......
09 May 2010, 08:45 PM
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Devolution is the start not the end.
England has its own problems it has made and it will be up to you to solve them as well. Devolution for your Northern Counties would go a great deal to solve some, so instead of being in disagreement, you should be joining in sharing a solution.
10 May 2010, 08:48 AM
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10 May 2010, 10:43 AM
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10 May 2010, 01:45 PM
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If all of the Irish,Northern Irish, Welsh, Scottish, Eastern Block, Asians were to get up and leave, who would do all of the work?
Chardonnay with her 3 children and massive income support?
Gaz, the habitual drinker and track suit wearer?
Or place the countries hopes on young Barry the knife weilding 12 year old that lists Happy Slapping as a part time job?
Just while we are on stereotypes I thought Id give it a go.
Do you not think that seeing as each of the countries (UK ones that is) are so close that you would see that as a partnership rather than hinderence.
England alone would struggle equally as much as the UK as a whole currently does.
As a tax paying and law abiding citizen am I not as desireable a resource because I live on Northern Irish soil across a little strip of sea even when I live the same distance as the crow flies as Newcastle and carlisle to London (which is only really a hub of all OUR MPs to gather in one place, it could easily be Birmingham etc)
Chardonnay with her 3 children and massive income support?
Gaz, the habitual drinker and track suit wearer?
Or place the countries hopes on young Barry the knife weilding 12 year old that lists Happy Slapping as a part time job?
Just while we are on stereotypes I thought Id give it a go.
Do you not think that seeing as each of the countries (UK ones that is) are so close that you would see that as a partnership rather than hinderence.
England alone would struggle equally as much as the UK as a whole currently does.
As a tax paying and law abiding citizen am I not as desireable a resource because I live on Northern Irish soil across a little strip of sea even when I live the same distance as the crow flies as Newcastle and carlisle to London (which is only really a hub of all OUR MPs to gather in one place, it could easily be Birmingham etc)
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11 May 2010, 03:08 PM
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The electoral system obviously needs work, but I really dislike the idea of constant coalition governments where the electorate vote for the various party manifestos and then end up with a government whose agenda is an incoherent set of policies taken from several different manifestos.
Obviously if no party gets an overall majority there needs to be some horse trading, but at that point they should go back to the country with a revised coalition manifesto to see if they can get a mandate for that. This would obviously be a more expensive, but several countries already have two-stage presidential elections with a run-off between the top two candidates from the first stage - so it's not an idea without precedent.
Obviously if no party gets an overall majority there needs to be some horse trading, but at that point they should go back to the country with a revised coalition manifesto to see if they can get a mandate for that. This would obviously be a more expensive, but several countries already have two-stage presidential elections with a run-off between the top two candidates from the first stage - so it's not an idea without precedent.
Last edited by scud8; 11 May 2010 at 03:18 PM. Reason: Edited to keep Lynne Truss off my back
11 May 2010, 03:59 PM
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The problem I find with the present sytem is that you get a party, lets call them the Bories.
They have a manifesto, buried somewhere in which is the promise to keep SATs for England, despite the fact that Scotland and Wales have dumped them for THEIR kids as being of little use, divisive and too expensive.
However, the Bory party, on being elected, bangs on that because it was in their manifesto, they have a mandate to do it, because the British public voted for it.
Bull snot. If it was the ONLY thing in their manifesto, then yes. And if we could trust them to do EVERYTHING they said in their manifesto, then yes.
Otherwise stop with the duplicity
They have a manifesto, buried somewhere in which is the promise to keep SATs for England, despite the fact that Scotland and Wales have dumped them for THEIR kids as being of little use, divisive and too expensive.
However, the Bory party, on being elected, bangs on that because it was in their manifesto, they have a mandate to do it, because the British public voted for it.
Bull snot. If it was the ONLY thing in their manifesto, then yes. And if we could trust them to do EVERYTHING they said in their manifesto, then yes.
Otherwise stop with the duplicity
11 May 2010, 04:13 PM
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