Devildog

The comment is subjective, based upon the writer's belief, which is not based on experience and therefore cannot be relied upon. The signal problem which he experienced with both his phone and laptop on another network is objective based upon fact and therefore can be relied upon.

So all we know from that article is that the signal strength in that area is crap and the writer has pre-conception about the phone itself based on third hand info.

Someone of your intelligence should know better

f1_fan

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Of course the statement is objective as what might be a phone with signal strength issues to one person might not to another.

The point of the article was to bemoan the lack of 3G connectivity and usefulness of the new range of smartphones because of this.

However, in the middle of the article the author took the time to single out the Apple iPhone 3Gs for having specific issues both in his opinion, but also implied that it was in the opinion of others.

As I share his opinion based on my side by side testing of the phone with other phones and at least one other perosn on this thread reports the same issue we can summise that just maybe there is some truth to the argument.

This is further backed up by Apple's statement over improving the antenna and back of the iPhone 4 to overcome signal strength and reception issues.

Snazy

I have a terrible 3G signal on my Blackberry at work today

Thought I would break the deadlock

Devildog

There you go again

"it does seem to....."

Subjective opinion (again) based on what? Internet bloggers??

There is no doubt that there has been massive interest in the Ipad - but its a new product for Apple, so hardly shiny new toy. There is no doubt there will be massive interest in the iphone 4.

In reality, however, is it any worse with Apple followers than anyone else, or is it, as I've said above, all just media hype because, ironically, it appears trendier to knock apple followers these days than (what the anti apple hype suggests) it is to be one?

Devildog

My 02 iphone 3g pretty much always has a better signal than my blackberry on voda...go figure

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

DD,

Do you see queues of people outside electronics stores at midnight for the new HTC/Nokia/Sony Ericsson/Blackberry... phone?

QED!

Snazy

lol makes perfect sense to me mate.
My DEXT and 9700 can sit side by side on the desk, BB with full 3G and DEXT with pi55 poor signal..... Both on Orange. At home it can be the complete reverse. Work that one out

In general I get a usable signal wherever I go, so that does me just fine these days lol

Snazy

In fairness I did get "quite excited" at the launch of the 9700, but did no camping for it, and it was a few weeks before I bothered with one, in fact maybe a couple of months.

I like new tech as much as the next nerd, but draw a VERY bold line lol.

Apparently there were 40 people at the Regent St (W1) store for the iPad launch, which in fairness as most were in at least pairs, is pretty unspectacular.

SwissTony

iTrader: (19)

Total bollocks. I went past the line when the store was about to open and it stretched all the way past the store, around the corner etc

So 'apparently' you are suffering the same 'apparently' as some other person on this thread

Snazy

Bollox to you too lol
I am just going by what I read in the media (dumb I know) that around 40 people camped out over night to get their iPads.

Who turned up at a more reasonable hour a couple of hours before the store opened is another matter Guess I should have said that in the other post, that I was referring to the "Do you see queues of people outside electronics stores at midnight "Do you see queues of people outside electronics stores at midnight " comment.

Devildog

1) Who would queue for substandard kit

2) I've seen queues of people outside stores at midnight for numerous games consoles (and even some games), large department store sales, God knows how many "must have for Christmas" toys, etc, etc, etc....

And to be honest, there were no queues at midnight that I know about for ipads in Scotland and I suspect the same will apply for the iphone4.

Taking America out of the equation and looking at uk and european users, do you really expect the need to have one on day 1 for 99.9% of potential iphone4 purchasers will be any different to that of any other similar item?

You could look at it another way - let's consider sales volumes.

The iphone4 will probably outsell the competition massively. If you upscaled all the HTC/Nokia/Sony Ericsson/Blackberry (take your choice of make) buyers, you could probably find enough saddos who would queue up on the day of release to get one and generate some media attention.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

LOL... "I went past the line"... you were in it you mean

Devildog

Dude, you're not helping the cause here

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Agree with you on games consoles, but then there is an element of competition there as to who can be first to do well on a certain game on a certain console. Still weird though IMO LOL

As for your other comments I have no idea what the relative sales volumes are of phones although I would wager Nokia sell way more phones than Apple.

And yes I do think there are a good number of the Apple faithful that want a new phone on day 1 and yes I think it is a higher pecentage than for other similar products from different manufacturers.

Anyway the phone launches soon so we will see.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

You sound surprised

StickyMicky

I was 3rd in a que for Call of Duty MW2

Day of release and Sainsburys just down the road from work were reported to be doing them for 26quid so i chanced it half an hour before they were due to open

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Sorry, but that's lame. You should have queued overnight for the full effect

Just found this little gem on the BBC site:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7085643.stm

Just look at the pics of the buyers And you wonder why Apple geeks get stereotyped LOL

Devildog

"Staff cheered as throngs of excited customers made their way into Apple's flagship store in London.

A small number of Apple fans keen to get hold of the handset had started queuing at stores overnight and numbers swelled to around 300 for the launch."

And that was the first launch of something that was, at the time, very much ground breaking.

And lets be honest, the BBC cameraman was hardly going to photograph the ordinary looking bloke in a suit? The same BBC, that is, that paid people to queue outside a Northern Rock branch when the **** first hit the fan, because there was no one there when they turned up to film the "panic"

JackClark

I went to the Apple store yesterday to get an iPad, sold out, wasted my time, now if I'd have turned up early on launch day I have no doubt I'd have got one. So, turn up early, walk away happy. Turn up late, console yourself with a Whopper meal.

Really wish I'd got one, sitting in a field in miserable weather would be so much better with a bigger screen.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

No, that is sort of what I meant although I bet the ordinary bloke in the suit would turn up a few days later like anyone normal.

Really anyone who turns up to a launch like that (or happens to be driving past ) needs to get some more excitement in their life

SwissTony

iTrader: (19)

Sent from my Newton

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Oh stop it Jack, I just know Apple sent you a complimentary one for services rendered

Will

davyboy

iPhone users can kiss goodbye to all you can eat data plans......coming soon.

ChefDude

if you upgrade, does that mean you effectively sign a new contract and lose the unlimited data plan?

hodgy0_2

love these threads BTW

I remember the all the hype over the Matrix phone from Nokia



Pretty cool uh -- and it texted too

Snazy

Except thats a pic of the Nokia "banana" not the matrix one
edited to note that some references on the net say its the same, but its not lol

Snazy

Matrix phone, scroll wheel
7110



Still reading conflicting info lol.
Some say the 8110 was used in the film but the 7110 was released after the film to make it for the demand on the market

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

I have just bought an ipad clone run ning android and didn't have to queue anywhere. I mainly bought it as a tester as my contract is due in August so I wanted to see what an android sytem was like before I get my new phone as I will either get the new iphone or the newest android phone as long as its running a 1.2ghz snapdragon cpu as its capable of better screen res than the iphone so time will tell.

hodgy0_2

I actually had both those phone (all supplied by work)

the 7110 -- has a massive screen, and fancy pixel grahics -- cool

PS i think you are right about the film/marketing - 8110 used in the film