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14 June 2010, 01:51 PM
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Should any beings have the ability to travel over large areas of space its almost impossible they will use normal modes of transportation. They will almost certainly use some form of "transporter" that will bend physics beyond what we fully understand. We have only just started to realise how this kind of physics *might* work let alone understand it.
14 June 2010, 01:51 PM
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Stillover, the nearest galaxy to us is 2 million light years away. Now lets say some aliens lived there, do you really think they could create the techonology to travel at the speed of light? And if they could they would have to travel for 2 million years to reach our galaxy. Do you think they could live that long on a spaceship?
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14 June 2010, 07:42 PM
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Should any beings have the ability to travel over large areas of space its almost impossible they will use normal modes of transportation. They will almost certainly use some form of "transporter" that will bend physics beyond what we fully understand. We have only just started to realise how this kind of physics *might* work let alone understand it.
100 years ago, to say one day we would build a car that was capable of covering the ground at over 250mph whilst listening to something called an Ipod that stores thousands of songs on something smaller than a young child's hand, would be seen as idiotic.
Were only as intelligent as our technology allows.
If another species has survived on another planet, at say the same time as our Dinosaurs were created, and weren't made extinct (like our dinosaurs were) and made advances in technology at the same rate man has here on earth. That would mean they have been evolving and advancing in technology for the past 300 Million years. Imagine how advanced man will be in 300 Million years? Maybe we'd be flying around in space......
No wait, that's impossible, right?
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14 June 2010, 08:14 PM
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It's absolute hogwash. Why is it that "aliens" always look like people 
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14 June 2010, 09:10 PM
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It's absolute hogwash. Why is it that "aliens" always look like people
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about as scientific as people who see the face of Jesus on their morning toast
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15 June 2010, 12:06 PM
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Like Stilover I think that there must be other habitable planets and advanced life apart from just us.
You are right about transport of course. It took ages to get into town when the car went wrong Bus only arrives every 3 hours!
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You are right about transport of course. It took ages to get into town when the car went wrong Bus only arrives every 3 hours!
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15 June 2010, 12:19 PM
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i have no doubts at all there is intelegant alien life out there, the chances of intelegant life forming is in the billions to 1, but there are billions of stars out there. to think were alone is very arrogant in deed. however have they ever come this far and visited? who knows but i have serious doubts.
conspiracy theory always rely on a certain set of circumstances and point of view. Its very very rare theres any truth in them at all let alone the whole conspiracy.
after all, everyone knows that kennedy was the gunman behind the grassy nole (sp),,,,,,,
conspiracy theory always rely on a certain set of circumstances and point of view. Its very very rare theres any truth in them at all let alone the whole conspiracy.
after all, everyone knows that kennedy was the gunman behind the grassy nole (sp),,,,,,,
15 June 2010, 01:00 PM
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In a way I think you are right. Would they want to come and visit a species that has only just started to use simple machines to move around their planet, and only just managed to send lumps of metal into space. Nah. We have only really been of interest for 200 years or so. Which in space time is a tiny, tiny length of time. Think of a grain of sand on the biggest beach you have ever been on!
As Prof Hawkings said recently, the only real reason aliens would want to come here is to use our resources. There would be nothing else to gain.
I do have to wonder why Mars and the Moon have almost no water compared to the past when they had lots.... I have often thought they may well have been used by aliens whilst removing some kind of natural resource hundreds of millions of years ago.
As Prof Hawkings said recently, the only real reason aliens would want to come here is to use our resources. There would be nothing else to gain.
I do have to wonder why Mars and the Moon have almost no water compared to the past when they had lots.... I have often thought they may well have been used by aliens whilst removing some kind of natural resource hundreds of millions of years ago.
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15 June 2010, 01:31 PM
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Then again, Earth has been acting like a beacon sending out radio signals for nearly a hundred years, enough time for any passing alien to pick up. Radio waves travel at the speed of light and when you consider our nearest star other than our Sun is only 4.2 light years away, who knows who has been receiving our signals.
As to why the moon and mars have lost its water and are now lifeless rocks, its because of global warming and climate change,...so we are led to believe.....
As to why the moon and mars have lost its water and are now lifeless rocks, its because of global warming and climate change,...so we are led to believe.....
15 June 2010, 01:31 PM
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Then again, Earth has been acting like a beacon sending out radio signals for nearly a hundred years, enough time for any passing alien to pick up. Radio waves travel at the speed of light and when you consider our nearest star other than our Sun is only 4.2 light years away, who knows who has been receiving our signals.
As to why the moon and mars have lost its water and are now lifeless rocks, its because of global warming and climate change,...so we are led to believe.....
As to why the moon and mars have lost its water and are now lifeless rocks, its because of global warming and climate change,...so we are led to believe.....
15 June 2010, 02:00 PM
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Then again, Earth has been acting like a beacon sending out radio signals for nearly a hundred years, enough time for any passing alien to pick up. Radio waves travel at the speed of light and when you consider our nearest star other than our Sun is only 4.2 light years away, who knows who has been receiving our signals.
Was watching a program a couple years ago now, and they said that for any passing spaceship to pick up our radio waves, they'd be that close to us, that they'd already know we were there.
Our Radio waves have, in Technical term, travel fcukall length.
I believe they've left our own solar system, but but will take thousands of years to reach the next one. Something like that.
15 June 2010, 02:01 PM
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15 June 2010, 02:15 PM
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Their molten cores froze and hence no longer created an electro-magnetic field and so were no longer able to deflect the solar wind which then stripped their atmospheres, or at least thats what Brian *** said.
I have a fear that if alien life ever did come here it would be to consume all biological matter. Metals and minerals are ten -a-penny, we're not.
We're galactic plankton!
I have a fear that if alien life ever did come here it would be to consume all biological matter. Metals and minerals are ten -a-penny, we're not.
We're galactic plankton!
15 June 2010, 04:47 PM
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Was watching a program a couple years ago now, and they said that for any passing spaceship to pick up our radio waves, they'd be that close to us, that they'd already know we were there.
Our Radio waves have, in Technical term, travel fcukall length.
I believe they've left our own solar system, but but will take thousands of years to reach the next one. Something like that.
Our Radio waves have, in Technical term, travel fcukall length.
I believe they've left our own solar system, but but will take thousands of years to reach the next one. Something like that.
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16 June 2010, 01:11 PM
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I haven't the time to watch it now, but i will do in the future. But my only issue with these things is when you lay common sense over it, they never work out, and heres why i think so in this particular case;
If there were large structures, or alien spacecraft on the moon, why has nobody else spotted it with a home telescope? it can't be that difficult for an astronomer to view these parts of the moon using a telescope which could be used at home?
I may be wrong in the sense that telescopes with this magnitude of 'zooming' power would have to be the big telescopes contained in buildings, but i am pretty sure to look at a distance as far as the moon, then you could view it in some detail with a fairly cheap* telescope
* Cheap as far as telescopes go.
If there were large structures, or alien spacecraft on the moon, why has nobody else spotted it with a home telescope? it can't be that difficult for an astronomer to view these parts of the moon using a telescope which could be used at home?
I may be wrong in the sense that telescopes with this magnitude of 'zooming' power would have to be the big telescopes contained in buildings, but i am pretty sure to look at a distance as far as the moon, then you could view it in some detail with a fairly cheap* telescope
* Cheap as far as telescopes go.
16 June 2010, 04:16 PM
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In a way I think you are right. Would they want to come and visit a species that has only just started to use simple machines to move around their planet, and only just managed to send lumps of metal into space. Nah. We have only really been of interest for 200 years or so. Which in space time is a tiny, tiny length of time. Think of a grain of sand on the biggest beach you have ever been on!
As Prof Hawkings said recently, the only real reason aliens would want to come here is to use our resources. There would be nothing else to gain.
I do have to wonder why Mars and the Moon have almost no water compared to the past when they had lots.... I have often thought they may well have been used by aliens whilst removing some kind of natural resource hundreds of millions of years ago.
As Prof Hawkings said recently, the only real reason aliens would want to come here is to use our resources. There would be nothing else to gain.
I do have to wonder why Mars and the Moon have almost no water compared to the past when they had lots.... I have often thought they may well have been used by aliens whilst removing some kind of natural resource hundreds of millions of years ago.
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16 June 2010, 04:24 PM
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It's all pretty intresting though whether you believe in it or not. It still surprises me though why we have never gone back to the moon, some of you will say the expense involved, some will say there's nothing there, others will say something different, but you would have thought they/we would have gone back again for something. Maybe different country just to prove they had the ability to do so.
16 June 2010, 04:56 PM
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It's all pretty intresting though whether you believe in it or not. It still surprises me though why we have never gone back to the moon, some of you will say the expense involved, some will say there's nothing there, others will say something different, but you would have thought they/we would have gone back again for something. Maybe different country just to prove they had the ability to do so.
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17 June 2010, 11:40 AM
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It's all pretty intresting though whether you believe in it or not. It still surprises me though why we have never gone back to the moon, some of you will say the expense involved, some will say there's nothing there, others will say something different, but you would have thought they/we would have gone back again for something. Maybe different country just to prove they had the ability to do so.
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17 June 2010, 01:43 PM
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How will we ever reach other planets then if we can't even get to the moon BTW the relative cost of stuff tends to decrease over time as technology helps make it cheaper ... why's it not less expensive to get to the moon today than back in 69 - 40yrs ago FFS?!
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BTW the relative cost of stuff tends to decrease over time as technology helps make it cheaper ... why's it not less expensive to get to the moon today than back in 69 - 40yrs ago FFS?!TX.
17 June 2010, 01:58 PM
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If we did go to the moon all those years ago and are led to believe that we had communication with the astronauts whilst on the moon how come technology hasn't advanced enough so that my bloody mobile phone wont drop calls and I aren't 238857 miles from a phone mast
18 June 2010, 02:11 PM
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If we wanted to live on another planet it would not be much point unless it was as benign and productive as ours.
To find one like that would mean trips to other galaxies to find the right kind of conditions. I reckon they do exist, probably with life of some kind on them. I bet they would take a bit of finding though!
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To find one like that would mean trips to other galaxies to find the right kind of conditions. I reckon they do exist, probably with life of some kind on them. I bet they would take a bit of finding though!
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18 June 2010, 07:38 PM
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If we wanted to live on another planet it would not be much point unless it was as benign and productive as ours.
To find one like that would mean trips to other galaxies to find the right kind of conditions. I reckon they do exist, probably with life of some kind on them. I bet they would take a bit of finding though!
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To find one like that would mean trips to other galaxies to find the right kind of conditions. I reckon they do exist, probably with life of some kind on them. I bet they would take a bit of finding though!
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I don't think we need to go that far. Current estimates are for 100 billion stars in our own galaxy, so there should be some closer that 2.5 million light-years to the nearest other galaxy (Andromeda)
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