ScoobySteve69

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All future televised England games have been moved to the gay adult channel as the sight of 11 arseholes getting hammered for 90 minutes was far too explicit for the BBC

urban

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Godspeed Brakes

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Fabio Capello was wheeling his shopping trolley across the supermarket car park when he noticed an old lady struggling with her bags of shopping. He stopped and asked, "Can you manage, dear?" To which the old lady replied, "No way. You got yourself into this f.....g mess, don't ask me to sort it out..."

Leslie

I suppose that Rooney was smitten with the same illness as the rest of them.

There was no semblance of playing as a team at any time. No one was prepared to feed another member of the side with a chance of a crack at goal, even if they actually accidentally got into the German box. If they ever started a counter attack they would pass backwards and pat the ball around giving the German defence time to reassemble, they never produced a credible constructive attack on the German goal, and when the Germans started a counter attack they effectively stood and watched them go by! James was left to effectively cope by himself! Defence!-whats that then?

I don't follow football as a rule although I like to watch a decent game. But even I could work out that their performance was non existent, they seemed at times to be at a complete loss what to do if they had the ball at their feet.

For a bunch who are supposed to be the best players we can field as a team, there is something desperately wrong somewhere.

As I said before, Capello would have done better to send them home and substitute a good club team.

FIFA have also dropped an enormous one with their choice of a rubbish football, and the ability of their officials, or lack of it!

Les

Scrappy9

As others have said we looked a poor team.
For the first goal when I was at school we were taught as a defender never let the ball bounce and for Upson to say the ball travelled further through the air then they expected is rubbish -fed up with hearing about the ball. Tevez and others play in the prem so aren't used to it either.

Sadly the best team won, they passed through our defence when we resorted to 30 yard shots.

Thought James made a couple of good stops but one went through his legs and another beat him on the near post.

Sending a good club side sound like a plan, but most of the best sides are full of foreigners.

RA Dunk

I havent seen any of todays papers yet, who's getting the blame of all this then Capello?

dpb

Like a colander in fact

Leslie

And they were "attackingly" at least as poor!

Les

The Zohan

11 individuals being lead by a manager unable to control or motivate them into a team and a winning team.

We have some of the best players in the world, they play top level premier league football most weekends and put in superb performances.

start with the manager - get him out and get a strong figure who can control, guide and empower them into a seamless unbeatable team.

Fabulous Capello needs to should a lot of the responsibility for playing some of the squad out of position and a formation which the do neither like nor often play!

The man is not up to the job, **** him off and get in someone who is, bbugger his pedigree and history - he is not the man or man enough for the England managers job!

dpb

But look at the string of managers weve had - its not the manager !



Hey look at least nobody got killed eh ( sadly) - its such a violent place ,right

Fat Boy

Didn't notice the Germans having a problem with it...

The Zohan

EFA

It is down to the manager not being able to control the personalities and motive them to play as a team + the tactics or lack of them. The problem lies with the FA and thier choice of manager.

Paying £6 million means we can afford the best in the world, but it is not necessarily the best but the right person strong and able enough to 'manage'

Fat Boy - Spot on, Ze Germanz ust seemed to manage rather well with the ball they where given. what next the wrong choice of sock or boots perhaps???

RA Dunk

9 managers since 66, surely they can't all have been wrong?

scarey

I'm very loathe to try and defend the over-paid players as they were rubbish for all four matches. Being half-french I thought I'd at least have two teams to support in the latter stages......ha!

However.....

England have been playing 4-4-2. Man Utd dont, so maybe Rooney doesnt have much experience in this formation. Man Utd basically built the way they play around him. (Not a MU fan!)

Also, although the premier league is the most exciting league in the world it's not technically the best. In the premier league give the ball away it doesnt matter because 15 seconds later you've got it back. Do that against a technically good international team and give the ball away and you get it back 5 minutes later!

We were well beaten, and depressingly most of my western european customers said that if we couldnt win the cup with this group of players we never will.....so that's that then I guess.

Trout

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Interesting as a number of the players are coming out saying Capello is a great manager and that he should stay. There also comments from the likes of Joe Cole who has nothing to gain from supporting Capello who barely used him, that the players felt they let the manager down with their poor performances.

The biggest challenge of an International Manager is that he has to build a set of players around a formation, unlike a club side that builds its formation around the players.

I am sure Capello has learned a lot from this world cup but Redknapp was telling us how this team would do really well against Germany. There's his credentials shot already!

The most worrying thing is that the old horses need to be put out to pasture and it would seem there are no new horses. So whoever the manager is - he's f****d!

hodgy0_2

FIFA offered the ball to all domestic leagues -- only one major European league took FIFA up on this offer, and have used it the whole domestic season

which one - guess?

Trout

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Would that be the same team that has a proper football academy and actually structures its national federation around growing domestic talent and having a world class Under 21 squad?

Leslie

Did you not notice that FIFA have admitted that the new ball was of a bad standard.

Maybe if the load of the new footballs which they sent over here to practice with had not disappeared then our players might have been more used to its different characteristics.

Les

The Zohan

I am sure that the players have been told to tow the FA line and keep sthum about the internal posturings and issues. A lot of the players just know how to play and do as they are told - right and wrong and a few will have the courage of thier convictions to speak out.

What does speak volumes is the generally poor perfomance of England in ALL the matches in SA - none worth writing home about and things did not get better as time went on. It was like watching Sunday local leagues last Sunday - basic errors again!

To win you need the right players and the right manager at the right time, I think Capello has proved he is not man enough for the position as England manager and you cannot teach an old dog new tricks in his case.

The player have to should some of the responsibility for some of them it will be thier last World Cup anyway. Thery need to look deep inside themsleves to see if they gave 'thier all' and put thier heart and soul into this campaign.

ScoobyDriverWannabe

It was a disgrace Emile on his **** or offside Heskey was on the plane. He should be sacked for taking a striker who was outscored by 3 goal keepers appearing in SA.

Over relying on Rooney and taking a player because Rooney apparently plays well with him, which obviously didn't work left us with not enough options.

Darren Bent 1-0 Fabio

jonc

The club team would be incomplete since the top club teams have a lot of "imported" players and are playing for their respective countries.

Plus there is a slight language barrier between Capello and the team. I can't imagine him being able to effectively motivate with his limited vocabulary.

hodgy0_2

and that just seems to echo with what most commentators are saying -- in English football the Clubs (The Premier League) comes first - and that is the begining, middle and end of it.

maybe it is impossible to have the "best" league in the world and win major competitions

nothing really wrong with that imo

Leslie

Our local team are not that bad and they are all Devonians!

I agree with you about the language bit. I would have been falling asleep while I was working out what he was saying.

Les

Mus

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I agree but attacking players need confidence, they need more time. Lampard ain't good enough to wear the jersey he plays alongside great players that make him look good. A lot of the England players are just too average, alarm bills were ringing from the time they were struggling to qualify out of a group. I would understand if they had a tough group but by far they had the easiest group not single team from that group is left.

A lot of players need to be dropped we need to adopt a similar system as the Germans mix youngsters with 2-3 senior players. And stick with them and support them it's beyond me how the media over hypes them and calls them world class when Algeria can string more and better passes.

Trout

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Lawrenson made a good point...

...players are responsible for their performance...

...the manager is responsible for the result.

On that basis both groups are equally responsible.


On the communication front, I am happy to be proven wrong, however other than the media and punters has any player under Capello actually said there is a communication gap? To date I am not heard of one!

bigsinky

agreed re youngsters and 2 or 3 seniors. golden age has passed and england need to compltely re think how they play.